🔎 UNIDENTIFIED Found along a low riverbank in CT.. looks like it once had a pin and was maybe worn. Came out of the ground looking good so maybe silver. Any ideas?

[Slycer516]

Looks like it was worn like once had pin. Maybe silver cause came out of the ground looking good. Riverbank in CT… any ideas

 

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[JVA5th]

A few other sites all say the same thing… a thing called a gorget worn bye guys like George Washington! About 300 years old … wow you couldn’t be more wrong cause it is silver …. Amateur lol

Not trying to be rude but your comment is kind of rude. No one has to help you and not everyone here are experts. They choose to reach out and attempt to help on their time so no need to be rude when someone gives you their opinion on the matter. Give respect and get it back. I only say something because I know most people here are really good people and don't deserve disrespect. If you are so sure what it is than I suppose move along.

 

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[HistoryTeacher]

A few other sites all say the same thing… a thing called a gorget worn bye guys like George Washington! About 300 years old … wow you couldn’t be more wrong cause it is silver …. Amateur lol

This reply doesn't seem to be in the spirit of a "What is it?" I think if you ask for people's opinions you shouldn't be quite so defensive when people throw out ideas. You also should consider marking it "Solved" if you are certain of its ID.

 

[Older The Better]

There’s another saying about arguing with stupid but what the hell I’ll bite, maybe cause im feeling argumentative, and a little sick of people flat out lying….

100% wrong it is half moon… maybe you better stick to matchbox toys cause I guess you just can’t fix S*****🤦🏻‍♂️

As you will see below from a simple google search… a half moon has one concave side and one convex side. As I highlighted above the original piece DOES NOT FIT THIS DESCRIPTION. To call it half moon is false.

But I understand why you cling to this fact because without this crutch for your assessment you have no argument as far as it being a gorget. I’ve asked multiple times as well as another member to provide any proof that a gorget is anything but a crescent shape… unless you count Native American examples which don’t matter anyway because the argument is they evokes into slides which there is no example I’ve seen of a na groundstone slide.
You also seem to flip from colonial to Victorian explanations, it seems you can’t even keep your time periods straight, which is understandable, when making things up it is often difficult to keep your facts straight.
You say that the people are amateurs on this site with lazy id’s, I’ve provided multiple examples of the information out there. None of it mentions a crossover between gorgets and slides, you have on the other hand failed to provide any proof of your claim and have resorting to a yes huh, nuh uh, type argument, focusing on increasingly small details and semantics in a last ditch attempt to make your argument seem credible. This tactic along with lack of supporting evidence shows you have no leg to stand on. So you did what most children do and turn to personal attacks.
Finally you come on to this site, mention slow responses, lazy ids, and immediately attack members, then you wonder why you aren’t getting help. People like you are the reason this site is slow at times, the members that have been around a long time and know a thing or two are tired of posts like yours. They don’t have the will to bang their head against the wall trying to reason with a negative passerby who refuses to see anything but what they want to see
So again I’m a person with an open mind and if you want to show any proof of your claims then I’ll admit I’m wrong but until then you have some sort of slide (nothing to do with gorgets or George Washington) and Id put it at late 1800’s based on similar generic farm debitage I’ve dug.

 

[Fishin-4-a-Livin]

100% wrong it is half moon… maybe you better stick to matchbox toys cause I guess you just can’t fix S*****🤦🏻‍♂️

I don’t understand why people come on here seeking help from others and then turning into a jerk when help is offered.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Also called woggle or scarf slide… Victorian high fashion

when someone tells me its for a suitcase from the 70’s that’s the response they deserve… this site is slow to solve anything lately and the responses are pure amateur hour..

99% certain but was expecting some better responses from this site considering I’ve pretty much solved it on a few other sites last night..

100% wrong it is half moon… maybe you better stick to matchbox toys cause I guess you just can’t fix S*****🤦🏻‍♂️

You will please post by our rules or not post, you have been here long enough to know our rules and they include not insulting members. Your title asks a question (......maybe worn, maybe silver any Ideas ?) and members are trying to answer, just because you do not like the answers does not mean you can attack the members replying.

 

[Older The Better]

Reminds me of one of these, not sure if there is enough structure to yours to be it though… feel like I remember them being more solid and ring like.

 

[Older The Better]

It seems your winding down into more personal jabs and an agree to disagree stance, that bores me. I guess I’ll never get any proof beyond it’s called fashion, careful with posting personal theory’s others may interpret them as reality. This can be convoluting for those who use the knowledge on this site for their own research. Good luck with future finds

 

[creskol]

A few other sites all say the same thing… a thing called a gorget worn bye guys like George Washington! About 300 years old … wow you couldn’t be more wrong cause it is silver …. Amateur lol

I think it is more likely part of a necklace or scarf/tie slide.

 

[Older The Better]

The original item is not half moon
It’s raining so I’ve got time to kill, still not finding anything to back up your claims. Gorgets do not seem to have anything to do with neck slides.

 

[Older The Better]

Upon closer inspection I have confirmed my original assessment it is NOT a half moon. I have taken the liberty to illustrate this, if you would kindly look closely at my picture you will see a semi circular removal at both the top and bottom of the piece. Now look closely at any example of a victorian or any other gorget and you will notice none show that shape

Would be glad to look at any information linking gorgets to slides though, can’t seem to find that

 

[Older The Better]

Not seeing any gorgets with that shape, nearly all of them are crescent shaped and much larger

 

[Older The Better]

Still not seeing anything supporting a gorget or your information. From what I’m gathering gorgets are rooted in armor and became symbolic like the saber but maintained a military lane. Also they mention being flat and meant to hang. No mention of becoming slides or any mention or pictures of them having a shape like the original object posted

 

[HistoryTeacher]

It is an interesting find and I am glad you posted it, but people come on here to share knowledge. Maybe if you could provide a link to one of the high fashion victorian gorgets, the rest of us could learn from you. Something like this 13cm copper Gorget that George Washington wore?

 

[Tnmountains]

If you already knew what is was why did you get on this site and post it ?
Go post it on another site that allows rude posters.

 

[hollARDog]

Get off your high horse. I see crescent and you not backing up anything.

 

[Older The Better]

Let’s put our thinking cap on for just a minute, that’s a side profile, if worn like a gorget at that orientation you would have a thin metal line around your neck and it wouldn’t function as a slide with a bowl shaped bottom… at that orientation I’d say neither a slide or a gorget. Also quoting yourself isn’t going to sell me on anything, I’ve yet to see any confirmation that gorgets evolved into slides, and even if they have you still have a slide and not a gorget.

 

[ticndig]

A few other sites all say the same thing… a thing called a gorget worn bye guys like George Washington! About 300 years old … wow you couldn’t be more wrong cause it is silver …. Amateur l

you should google gorget., they were worn around the neck as armor. your guess seems as off as hers.

 

[Slycer516]

Gorgets became scarf slides as fashion… they were used to slide scarf through and use pin to hold… the half moon gives it away and the shape… Victorian high fashion and even John Adam’s wore one… this is an old silver one.. woggle or Boy Scouts slides come from this…

Fashion evolves through time….

It is an interesting find and I am glad you posted it, but people come on here to share knowledge. Maybe if you could provide a link to one of the high fashion victorian gorgets, the rest of us could learn from you. Something like this 13cm copper Gorget that George Washington wore?

yes similar… they were common in colonial days even women wore them

The original item is not half moon
It’s raining so I’ve got time to kill, still not finding anything to back up your claims. Gorgets do not seem to have anything to do with neck slides.
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Look closer it is 100% half moon …🤦🏻‍♂️… it’s military design originated from gorgots into colonial neck slides for a scarf… 🤦🏻‍♂️

 

[GoldieLocks]

I doubt it is pure silver. And I bet it is modern say 1970-2010? And no, not worn. But a part of something decorative, a suitcase perhapse?