Gold cube and miller table

[bottlecap]

Now that I have a little experience with prospecting I was thinking running material through a gold cube then using a miller table to cleanly extract the cons from the cube might be a good one two punch. Any thoughts? I get really frustrated panning some of the really fine stuff, very hard to separate from the black sand without panning black sand out and probably losing gold.

 

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[bottlecap]

How often are you emptying the Pyramid Pro Pan (I gather that is what you are using)? It sounds like you are cleaning pretty often since you apparently end up with a lot of concentrates. You should be able to just continually operate it (add new feed material to it and sluff off the lighter material, bigger stones, etc. AKA production panning) until you have mostly black sands in the rectangular bottom section of the pan below the bottom of the metal riffles before a cleanout is necessary. At that point save everything not just what is in the tube area where the plug is. With production panning you will end up with minimal but richer concentrates to screen and pan at the end of the day.

As far as classifying feed.....I think the Fossicker (inventer) recommends about 1" max size for efficiency so....make it easy on yourself.

Good luck.

I empty it out about once every four fills or so, I wait until I get to the point I can no longer add a shovel of material without it over flowing over the top because it is so full of fines. I do not classify anything before running the pro pan, I have a pretty good system I think with removing larger rocks but it's hard to explain. I like that pro pan but my back is killing me. Found a good spot today, will be going out again tomorrow.

 

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[bottlecap]

Nice to read so much about how you are doing. You only need to do the classifying beyond -12 (or even -4) for the last couple cups of heavies...NOT for all your paydirt. (So do this fine classifying at home!!)

Learning what sizes of gold you have is an important part of learning to get gold from your area. Good job there.

Classifying with standing water above the level of the screen is ideal. Much quicker and as you say, the small stuff drops right thru that way! (It doesn't need force of water flow unless you overload the classifier.

Well how do I get down to the last couple cups of heavies? I didn't get a cube yet, maybe you thought I had ordered one but I haven't yet. Right now I use a small alluvial bucket sluice for a lot of clean up, that little sucker actually does a pretty good job sucking out the heavies, I have panned tailings and only found one tiny spec of gold in them.

 

[russau]

youll like the Gold Cube if-n-when you do get it! Id save all the material you worked for until you get the Cube and rerun them just to see what you missed.

 

[KevinInColorado]

Well how do I get down to the last couple cups of heavies? I didn't get a cube yet, maybe you thought I had ordered one but I haven't yet. Right now I use a small alluvial bucket sluice for a lot of clean up, that little sucker actually does a pretty good job sucking out the heavies, I have panned tailings and only found one tiny spec of gold in them.

The old fashioned way- with a gold pan. I use a 14 inch Proline Professional or sometimes the Garrett SuperSluice pan. Remember the goal is NOT to get down to just gold, it's just to get rid of more waste material that you don't want to carry home for final classifying and processing.

 

[bottlecap]

I'm on to something big here, creek is dropping rapidly, it is revealing the larger cobble of the gravel bar, it is like a progression, the closer to the channel the gravel gets the bigger the cobble, gotta get out there! Bottlecap out.

 

[bottlecap]

The old fashioned way- with a gold pan. I use a 14 inch Proline Professional or sometimes the Garrett SuperSluice pan. Remember the goal is NOT to get down to just gold, it's just to get rid of more waste material that you don't want to carry home for final classifying and processing.

Makes sense, I had often wondered if people panned just down to heavies and not necessarily down to gold, I'll give that a shot.

 

[arizau]

Makes sense, I had often wondered if people panned just down to heavies and not necessarily down to gold, I'll give that a shot.

That also can be done in the Pro Pan to a certain extent. Since you are cleaning out often and collecting the concentrates, reprocess your collected material in the Pro Pan at the end of the day to reduce the total volume of concentrates you take home.

 

[bottlecap]

That also can be done in the Pro Pan to a certain extent. Since you are cleaning out often and collecting the concentrates, reprocess your collected material in the Pro Pan at the end of the day to reduce the total volume of concentrates you take home.

Or i could just bite the bullet and get a gold cube.....

 

[KevinInColorado]

Or i could just bite the bullet and get a gold cube.....

I'm a Gold Cube fan but...Not really needed in your case.

 

[bottlecap]

I'm a Gold Cube fan but...Not really needed in your case.

Why not? Just because we don't have a lot of gold here I assume? If a guy was to order one is one place better than another to order from?

 

[KevinInColorado]

Why not? Just because we don't have a lot of gold here I assume? If a guy was to order one is one place better than another to order from?

Really hard to justify the spend when you aren't allowed to use it in the field and wouldn't pay it off in a lifetime of MN digging. On the other hand, if you have plans to come west...go for it!

 

[bottlecap]

Really hard to justify the spend when you aren't allowed to use it in the field and wouldn't pay it off in a lifetime of MN digging. On the other hand, if you have plans to come west...go for it!

Well just maybe I can prove you wrong....

 

[johnedoe]

Well just maybe I can prove you wrong....

Now thats an attitude that will cost you money........

Or you can try something like this.......... Which is a form of production panning.

.

 

[Goodyguy]

Or i could just bite the bullet and get a gold cube.....

Or you could make a non motorized substitute out of a flat bottomed stream sluice just by using vortex matting (rough top conveyor belt) in it.
For best results place the sluice into the stream at a 15 degree angle (3" to a foot of drop) and feed your cons into it from the flair.

Just like the gold cube dont forget to "spank" the mat to remove any air trapped in the pockets of the mat before running your cons.

GG~

 

[johnedoe]

Here is the best method I have seen yet to get the trays ready to run.... You know, getting rid of the air bubbles.......

The technique starts at the 2:20 mark.

 

[Goodyguy]

I hate to sound negative....
But that is the slowest cube I've ever seen.

I think he needs a stronger pump for the 4 stack especially when the top tray is elevated that far off the ground. The amount of head lift is too much for the pump and is robbing the gpm. Plus his magnet technique could use some fine tuning.

Other than that thanks for sharing because I like his way of eliminating the air pockets in the mats

GG~

 

[johnedoe]

I hate to sound negative....
But that is the slowest cube I've ever seen.

I think he needs a stronger pump for the 4 stack especially when the top tray is elevated that far off the ground. The amount of head lift is too much for the pump and is robbing the gpm. Plus his magnet technique could use some fine tuning.

Other than that thanks for sharing because I like his way of eliminating the air pockets in the mats

GG~

LOL..... The setting up of the mats is all I wanted to share... and I agree .... pretty slow, but he is also in the heavy beach sands of cape disappointment..... and they are heavy and dense.

 

[russau]

Ive been using a long handled scrub brush for removeing the bubbles BUT I like your idea even better and will be using it this year when I get out!

 

[bottlecap]

Looks like a really good method to get the cube ready to rock. Still kicking around the idea of getting one, would be great for condensing cons to a reasonable amount. Guess if it didn't work out I could sell it.....

 

[HMiller]

Let me know when your ready to sell.