Gold Rush Season 4 premiere

[jeff of pa]

'Gold Rush' Season 4 premiere

well against my better judgement, I got up this morning & watched the 2 hour premier
on my DVR
before coming online.

I didn't watch their 1 Hour spoiler talk show before,
I just deleted that.

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Looks to me like Parker Schnabel is going to be the New Todd for comedy relief.
working with nothing to go on. Best drill holes showed "Trace".
I'm thinking his so Called friend Tony Beets is laughing through his scruffy beard,
behind his back.
I hope Parker didn't pay him for the land. Parker said it right,
Tony wont mine the land.

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although the attempt at Drama failed, the Hoffman crew just may have
their crap together this year. not quite as Much "Waa Waa Waaaaa"
& no crying poverty yet,
when they needed something done, They coped & did it.
Fixed a Bridge, Hired a chopper to rush them a Diesil Filter, Crawled under wires
with their heavy equipment, with no mishaps

They actually looked like semi-Pro

BS on the diamonds though imo, I still think diamonds are for Chumps.
I hope they are only mentioning them, for show filler.

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the other crew with Fred the claim jumper, was a waste of space to fill a 2 hour show
IMO
just driving in snow, getting stuck , & trying to add drama.
:Add Yawn Gif here

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now, unless next week is a 2 hour behind the scenes recap show.
and another 6 week hiatus till the next episode

I guess I'll stick around

?Gold Rush? Season 4 premiere: Todd Hoffman on the run for riches in Guyana - Zap2it

 

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[jcazgoldchaser]

Exactly..... No drama no ratings. Did they just abandon all that equip?

I don't see how anyone could consider leaving the claim owner's equipment on his claim as abandoning it.

 

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[Tonto]

yes seriously, if Dustin gets a good sample, how is he going to Mine it ?

but then what about the sample he took before that he said was so good ?


I guess if I was a placer miner (and I am), and all my equipment was for placer recovery, then I'd drill core samples to see if that was where the gold started from? Don't think so. I think it would be the other way around...follow the placer gold to find the lode source, then drill core samples in the hopes of mining a vein. But, what do I know? I think it might meet the entertainment goal for armchair miners, but not so much for others. On the other hand, when you cut through all of the dramatic BS, it's good to see miners get some gold. I never agreed with Fred about the waterfall "glory hole", but I was sorry he didn't get paid. Earlier in the season, I saw some good color from the prospect holes up Cahoon before they brought in the excavators and wash plant. Then suddenly, the gold wasn't found. What gives? I think the core sample drilling was a diversion, and a lead for next seasons mining of Cahoon based on the core samples, which has nothing to do with whether there is placer gold or not. Placer leads to lode, not the other way around, a vast majority of the time.

 

[G1sammons]

yes seriously, if Dustin gets a good sample, how is he going to Mine it ? but then what about the sample he took before that he said was so good ? I guess if I was a placer miner (and I am), and all my equipment was for placer recovery, then I'd drill core samples to see if that was where the gold started from? Don't think so. I think it would be the other way around...follow the placer gold to find the lode source, then drill core samples in the hopes of mining a vein. But, what do I know? I think it might meet the entertainment goal for armchair miners, but not so much for others. On the other hand, when you cut through all of the dramatic BS, it's good to see miners get some gold. I never agreed with Fred about the waterfall "glory hole", but I was sorry he didn't get paid. Earlier in the season, I saw some good color from the prospect holes up Cahoon before they brought in the excavators and wash plant. Then suddenly, the gold wasn't found. What gives? I think the core sample drilling was a diversion, and a lead for next seasons mining of Cahoon based on the core samples, which has nothing to do with whether there is placer gold or not. Placer leads to lode, not the other way around, a vast majority of the time.

Mining the bluff would be easy .. Ya just blast it .. It will all land in the valley below .. From there it's simple .. Just expensive because of where it is.....

 

[KevinInColorado]

So do you think that pan of nuggets that Freddy displayed on "The Dirt" came from Colorado? <img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=949692"/>

I went back and re watched "Freddy's Gold". That gold is from the claim he and his brother are working up in the Yukon. Freddy stopped in at a kids panning event I was volunteering at in late June (on the South Platte River in central Denver). At that time he mentioned that he'd been with the Hoffman's but was headed up to the family claim in the Yukon so I'm sure that is what he was referring to in the show as the source of that gorgeous gold. He gets way more gold than that in Colorado every year of course but our fine gold just isn't as sexy as those nuggets...thats why I have to be the "master of fly poop" although that title should go to Freddy as he produces kilos of the stuff every year :-)

 

[Peyton Manning]

yep dustin's sample is odd as is the sample's dave took at the creek. then no gold!

I was hoping a south american drug cartel would kidnap turd and make him a coke mule

 

[Peyton Manning]

yep dustin's sample is odd as is the sample's dave took at the creek. then no gold!

I was hoping a south american drug cartel would kidnap turd and make him a coke mule

 

[UncleMatt]

I learned last week from a couple of producers that most of them are looking ONLY for scripted, character based reality shows about gold or treasure. The topic of gold or treasure hunting is simply to provide a backdrop for what they want to produce: made up drama between characters. That is straight from people in the industry! They don't give a flip about realism, or educating people about the topic we love, they simply want to milk it for an audience...

 

[G1sammons]

yep dustin's sample is odd as is the sample's dave took at the creek. then no gold! I was hoping a south american drug cartel would kidnap turd and make him a coke mule

lol They have too much invested to take a chance on him ..

 

[Rdg Sluicer]

I don't see how anyone could consider leaving the claim owner's equipment on his claim as abandoning it.

Since when does a claim owner supply the equipment? Toad had all that shipped down. If it cost more to get it home than it is worth I can see leaving it.

 

[Peyton Manning]

he probably didn't pay for it anyway

 

[jcazgoldchaser]

Since when does a claim owner supply the equipment? Toad had all that shipped down. If it cost more to get it home than it is worth I can see leaving it.

You mean the set, or the crews quarters?

I don't believe for a second anything belonged to "the hoffmans", 'down there'.

 

[Goodyguy]

Just occurred to me that no one has commented about why the Hoffman crew had goldless clean ups.
Especially since they had a state of the art trommel, state of the art sluices, and they knew from test panning that they were feeding it gold bearing material. Yet whenever they would do a cleanout there was no gold.

It was basically a no brainer, but then that's most likely the reason why they couldn't figure it out.

High viscosity is the reason that they were not recovering any gold! The rule of thumb is to not go past a 4:1 liquids to solids ratio in order to maintain a slurry that will allow gold to fall out of suspension. The thick muddy sandy soup that was running off the end of their sluices was most likely full of gold (diamonds too for that matter) that stayed in suspension due to the thick viscous slurry.

I'm sure Freddy Dodge would have figured it out in a heartbeat if he had been there.


GG~

 

[G1sammons]

Just occurred to me that no one has commented about why the Hoffman crew had goldless clean ups. Especially since they had a state of the art trommel, state of the art sluices, and they knew from test panning that they were feeding it gold bearing material. Yet whenever they would do a cleanout there was no gold. It was basically a no brainer, but then that's most likely the reason why they couldn't figure it out. High viscosity is the reason that they were not recovering any gold! The rule of thumb is to not go past a 4:1 liquids to solids ratio in order to maintain a slurry that will allow gold to fall out of suspension. The thick muddy sandy soup that was running off the end of their sluices was most likely full of gold (diamonds too for that matter) that stayed in suspension due to the thick viscous slurry. I'm sure Freddy Dodge would have figured it out in a heartbeat if he had been there. GG~

Freddy was so smart he got the hell out of there as quick as he could ...
Something was fishy with the gold for sure... But I figured the tromel had plenty of water with the spray bars and all .

 

[UncleMatt]

That makes a lot of sense GoodGuy! I wonder who the Hoffman's will be able to convince they are "experts" in the next season...

With any luck, going forward the show will be Hoffman free!

 

[Rdg Sluicer]

You mean the set, or the crews quarters?

I don't believe for a second anything belonged to "the hoffmans", 'down there'.

Why on earth would the claim owner provide any of that?

 

[jcazgoldchaser]

Why on earth would the claim owner provide any of that?

Don't think you're grasping this is a tv show and the hoffmans went down to pretend mine at an existing operation. Discovery paid the guy and built him a bunch of building on his "claim".

Just like Parker working for Tony and all the made up drama of that.

 

[Rdg Sluicer]

Don't think you're grasping this is a tv show and the hoffmans went down to pretend mine at an existing operation. Discovery paid the guy and built him a bunch of building on his "claim".

Just like Parker working for Tony and all the made up drama of that.

I am not talking about the building. Discovery probably did pay for that more for their own crew. I am talking about the trommel, 2 excavators, 2 cats, their clean out equipment...... No way Discovery gave him that crap.

 

[jeff of pa]

I am not talking about the building. Discovery probably did pay for that more for their own crew. I am talking about the trommel, 2 excavators, 2 cats, their clean out equipment...... No way Discovery gave him that crap.

I'm going to guess that was all Leased. as to who paid the lease & repairs

 

[Rdg Sluicer]

I'm going to guess that was all Leased. as to who paid the lease & repairs

I am assuming it was as well. I am sure whoever leased it to him wants it back...... Maybe Todd should go on that new show "Dude Your Screwed"

 

[Underburden]

Goodguy nailed it.
They may as well have been pumping molasses or 90 weight oil...same viscosity as that water they were pumping through the system. Their samples showed tiny, tiny gold. Even clean water would blow out 40% of the small stuff, let alone trying to capture it using mud as a medium.
Well, one good thing about this show, everyone learns WHAT NOT TO DO!