Help Identifying a Coin !

[Budman231]

Good morning hunters,

The weather was beautiful yesterday here in New England, and the fall colors were outstanding. I decided to hunt an old park near my house and had a great day. While picking up normal clad, I found the following coin (token?). It is very corroded and must have been in the soil for many years. I was FIRED UP when I found it. Might be the oldest thing I have found so far..

Can someone help me identify what it might be ?

Next to a normal quarter for size comparison ...


Note : I think I can make out a number "1" on it (Yellow arrow) and it seems to also have some sort of Flag looking design (Blue arrow) to the left of the "1"??

Close up by itself ...


Lastly, Is there any way to clean this up without damaging the coin or its value (if it has any?).

Thank you in advance.
Bud

 

[CRUSADER]

Turn it 90 degrees left & you have Britannia seated. So its a Georgian halfpenny 17??. (you can see the 17 under Britannia)

 

[vpnavy]

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[treblehunter]

Try soaking it in olive oil for months, after a few hours take it and gently rub it and look holding it differently in the light. You will probably be able to see more detail like that. It worked for me with a coin I found. Let me know how you made out?

 

[cti4sw]

A peroxide bath, heated or not, is the safest way to clean old coins without removing patina. Olive oil is an option - after the peroxide. Some swear by olive oil, some do not.

 

[Iron Patch]

Turn it 90 degrees left & you have Britannia seated. So its a Georgian halfpenny 17??. (you can see the 17 under Britannia)

George III, 1774.

 

[Budman231]

I want to thank everyone for your help in identifying this. I am really excited to find such an old coin. I use a Garrett ACE-350 and Pro Pointer. I have found so many cool things since I started 2 months ago. Stinks that the winter and hard soil is bearing down on us here...

Thanks again.

Bud

 

[Budman231]

George III, 1774.

How can you see 1774...?

I see 17 but can really make out the rest.. I now see that the date has a straight line above it which indicates an earlier version of the coin...

 

[Iron Patch]

How can you see 1774...?

I see 17 but can really make out the rest.. I now see that the date has a straight line above it which indicates an earlier version of the coin...

You can see part of the 3rd digit and looks like a 7 to me... then considering equal spacing, where the last digit should be it looks like the cross section of a 4. If you can see anything on the other side it would probably confirm if the 3rd digit is a 7, or maybe a 3.

 

[Don in SJ]

Not being really well versed in the "families" of KGIII counterfeits, but it sure has a long neck, thus I thought perhaps a member of the Long Neck Family of counterfeits, but I believe they are all dated 1775. Maybe Bramblefind will chime in on this one, she is more up to date on the counterfeit family research currently being conducted.

 

[PeteWmass]

I just use mineral oil now - instead of a water based cleaner (hydrogen peroxide is mostly water..even hospital strength is only 10 percent) - not to soak really..but to keep the air out - clean with tooth picks or cotton swabs - - mineral oil is inert - people use olive oil as it is acidic..but...at that point we are talking encrustation.....

 

[Iron Patch]

Not being really well versed in the "families" of KGIII counterfeits, but it sure has a long neck, thus I thought perhaps a member of the Long Neck Family of counterfeits, but I believe they are all dated 1775. Maybe Bramblefind will chime in on this one, she is more up to date on the counterfeit family research currently being conducted.

I don't know them either, but there's probably quite a few with a long neck that aren't in the family. In that condition even the collectors might have to take a little time to figure it out unless it's extremely common.

TOPPLESS ORDINAL FAMILY

 

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[The Dig Dig]

A peroxide bath, heated or not, is the safest way to clean old coins without removing patina. Olive oil is an option - after the peroxide. Some swear by olive oil, some do not.

How long would you leave in the peroxide?

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