Is Oak Island Sir Frobisher's Mine?

[Armchair detective]

Sir Frobisher was looking for the Northwest Passage through Canada and found fool's gold on an island somewhere. He made 3 voyages.1576-1578 with two purposes: .1) find that passage, and 2) grab some gold for the Crown. (Long and interesting story.)

Oak Island has the look/feel of a mine that was.worked, then hidden.

The Frobisher history/legend.has his mine workings on Baffin Island, latitude 68° N.
Oak Island is 44.5°N

Distance between latitudes 1620 miles, about 10 days sail for 1700's ships, which begs the question, "Are there any 10 day sailing gaps in the Frobisher histories?

Should note how unlikely it would be.for Frobisher to give true information to find this mine.

 

[TruthbeTold]

Tiny islands with high water tables and natural underground waterways do not make for good mining.

 

[Armchair detective]

Gold is where you find it.

 

[Red-Coat]

Martin Frobisher (not knighted as ‘Sir’ Martin Frobisher until 1588) undertook his first expedition in 1576 and one of the items brought back was a black stone "as great as a half-penny loaf" which had been found loose on the surface of Hall's Island off the coast of Baffin Island. He had no particular interest in it beyond the belief it might be a piece of ‘sea coal’ and kept it as a token of possession of the new territory. He gave it to Michael Lok, a merchant who was a key financial backer of Frobisher’s expeditions who had it assayed. Three expert assayers determined it to be worthless marcasite (a form of pyrite) but Lok persisted and obtained an opinion from the London-based Italian alchemist Giovanni Battista Agnello that it contained small amounts of gold dust. The claim was probably fraudulent and Lok secretly wrote to Queen Elizabeth I to inform her of the ‘encouraging’ result (ignoring the three pervious negative opinions) and used it as leverage to encourage investors to finance another expedition.

During the second expedition in 1577, Frobisher unsuccessfully searched the vicinity of Hall’s Island where the black stone had been found during the first expedition, but collected 180 metric tons of ‘ore’ from other locations. On return to England, fuelled by a probably spurious set of assay results that it might yield a profit of £5.20 per ton (almost £2,000 per ton in today’s values) he obtained support for a third expedition in 1578 with a larger fleet and collected 1,350 tons of ‘ore’ from several mining operations around Frobisher Bay. After years of attempting to smelt gold from it, the rock was ultimately determined to be a worthless hornblende.

The mining locations were a couple of thousand miles (sailing distance, rather than latitude) from Oak Island, on the other side of Newfoundland & Labrador, and there’s no record of any such diversion. Also, Oak island consists of multiple layers of clay and slate till resting on limestone, gypsum and slate bedrock which is not geologically consistent with the material Frobisher brought back to England.

 

[jeff of pa]

 

[n2mini]

Wonder who dug a 500' tunnel, and how deep under ground was it ?

 

[jeff of pa]

Gophers

 

[n2mini]

Also wonder where the other end was. Someone must have walked it to know it's 500 feet long so did it just end or pop up to surface somewhere on the island... Got to be true if Dunfield said it right... He claims he didn't find a flood tunnel and everyone seems to believe that, and that's their proof they never existed..
He only got to 132 feet of depth, so he wasn't down to where he thought the treasure was ( 155 to 190 feet ) and gave up..

 

[jeff of pa]

maybe the Chester, Nova scoitia School Boys told him

 

[TruthbeTold]

Also wonder where the other end was. Someone must have walked it to know it's 500 feet long so did it just end or pop up to surface somewhere on the island... Got to be true if Dunfield said it right... He claims he didn't find a flood tunnel and everyone seems to believe that, and that's their proof they never existed..
He only got to 132 feet of depth, so he wasn't down to where he thought the treasure was ( 155 to 190 feet ) and gave up..

Believers in the fictional treasure will always say, "not deep enough", "off by a few feet", etc.

 

[TruthbeTold]

Wonder who dug a 500' tunnel, and how deep under ground was it ?

No evidence has ever been presented of 500' flood tunnels. Dunfield actually dug on the island and reported none found.

The article above was published well before Dunfield finished up and reported his findings.

 

[n2mini]

SO this article is a lie, but any of the others are truthful. Sounds about right.. People on both sides of this story pick and choose which articles they want to believe to be true and which ones they say is a lie/untruthful.. Some don't want to believe much of anything that is written but yet don't believe certain theories because nothing is written about it... Kinda ironic isn't it....

 

[jeff of pa]

Well ! one Thing is for Sure it Is a 'money Pit !'
For about 200 Years it Sucked treasure Hunters Dry.

Now Because of TV & Advertisers the Lagina's are Actually Making Money ! & Pretending to use their Own

That's My Personal Opinion of Course ! Prove Me wrong, I'll Admit I Was Wrong

 

[n2mini]

They did invest x amount ( at one point they claimed roughly 15 million dollars ) in the beginning before the show took over. They were on the island doing what they could and buying land rights a few years before the show..

 

[jeff of pa]

That's the Type of Place I would Never Buy Land to .
Though there probably is some Treasures Scattered around the Island .
where things haven't been stripped out.

however The Governmet has Too much Say in what you do with it.
Most likely more then normal .

Bad Enough Paying Yearly Land Taxes.

Without someone saying We need to Have an Arecheologist investigate !

 

[n2mini]

The search group now own most of the island and own part of the company that gives tours there. $35 per adult and google claims they usually sell all their spots ahead of time so book early. 3 times a day on the weekends.. The island is now a business in itself with the tours. Granted without the show that would eventually die off probably...

 

[dowser]

SO this article is a lie, but any of the others are truthful. Sounds about right.. People on both sides of this story pick and choose which articles they want to believe to be true and which ones they say is a lie/untruthful.. Some don't want to believe much of anything that is written but yet don't believe certain theories because nothing is written about it... Kinda ironic isn't it....

There wasn't a school to have school boys in 1700's
I wouldn't call it a truthful article, unless I'm missing something..

 

[jeff of pa]

There wasn't a school to have school boys in 1700's
I wouldn't call it a truthful article, unless I'm missing something..

I Don't wish to argue ! Beause You Probably Been Following this ,
Which I haven't. I've been Following Dent's Run Treasure more
and Won't allow Arguing there

This Commment that Follows is Born out of My Sarcastic sense of Humor, No real Knowledge :

Perhaps the 'school boys' part was invented by the same Person who Inveted the Hole with Treaasure Part while using the Privy

'Thars' Treasure Don There !'

I'm Out

 

[dowser]

There wasn't a school to have school boys in 1700's
I wouldn't call it a truthful article, unless I'm missing something..

I didn't dig deep enough, it looks like a couple schools on this map..

 

[dowser]

I didn't dig deep enough, it looks like a couple schools on this map..

If 2 school boys from Chester went to Oak Island in the late 1700's, I don't think a land route was easy back then. Ocean would be a quicker route.., but an odd place to go, unless they were looking for a treasure, they had heard about..