Once again, not looking at THE FACTS.
1. How could Jones have been in the cavern to measure it in 1941? It was full of silt in 1975. There is ABSOLUTELY no other way for Jones to have accurately measured the inside of the cavern unless he had been INSIDE IT. So, based on SRI's Data, we can safely say that unless Jones was a psychic, he would have had to have been inside the cavern in 1941 to measure it accurately. Based on that FACT, I am willing to give some credence to his story.
2. Jones inexplicably got about $900 to spend on a party for his buddies at Huachuca (verified by several people that knew him). Jones said he sold a chunk of one of the bars. How much do you think a Black Army Private made per month in 1941?
Just two things that you can't dismiss and say "highly unlikely".
Another thing, and the biggest tell of all (like I have said a million times), forget what Jones said. Just look at what he did. If he REALLY hadn't seen all that gold in the cavern, does ANYBODY really think he would have spent the rest of his life trying to get back to it? Put yourselves in his place: Lets say you make up a story about finding stacks of gold bars and a golden throne in a cavern. Everybody says you are nutty as a fruitcake. Would you keep coming back to the place and raise a big stink year after year? Get a bunch of professional physicists and mining engineers involved? The simple answer is:
"""""HIGHLY UNLIKELY"""""
Mike
Now that is twice you have said I am not looking "AT THE FACTS".
But, hey, no problem.
Especially for you, I shall debate the points you have raised and then put some of my own questions out there.
1.How could Jones have been in the cavern to measure it in 1941? It was full of silt in 1975. There is ABSOLUTELY no other way for Jones to have accurately measured the inside of the cavern unless he had been INSIDE IT. So, based on SRI's Data, we can safely say that unless Jones was a psychic, he would have had to have been inside the cavern in 1941 to measure it accurately. Based on that FACT, I am willing to give some credence to his story.
Right. I have said that there is all the likelihood that Jones did actually enter an area like he said he did. What I do query is whether it had all the gold his statement suggests. If you simply base the whole story and say " Based on that FACT, I am willing to give some credence to his story.", then it really doesn't take much to convince then does it? Do you really suggest or believe that an individual would simply take "a small piece of a gold bar" when there was trunks of gold dust, nuggets, a throne, and bars stacked high, and then leave it at that?
Please, that is straining the realms of reality....FACT....Most treasure myths and legends allure to massive hoards being found and then the alleged finders only taking small amounts due to various (mostly silly) reasons and then either losing the location, the hoard never being rediscovered or conspiracy allegations. But if you take all that as FACT, then knock yourself out.
2. "Jones inexplicably got about $900 to spend on a party for his buddies at Huachuca (verified by several people that knew him). Jones said he sold a chunk of one of the bars. How much do you think a Black Army Private made per month in 1941?"
Again, Jones did more than likely get the amount suggested and had a parrrttttyyyy for his mates at Fort Huachuca. But why leave it at that for a further close to 2 decades? A bit flimsy to suggest that the $900 was from a gold treasure purported to be worth $50m-$60M?
If Jones originally accidently discovered the site with his friend and all that was needed was a rope, flashlight, measuring tape, then why not go with another for a second mooch and retrieve some more?? Could not the $900 have been a 'one-off' with nothing more left to discover??
Then you mention that, according to you, the "BIGGEST TELL OF ALL" (I don't really like this capitals business because one can make their point without resorting to it, but I shall assume you prefer it based on your posts), is Jones spending all those years trying to retrieve what he claimed he had seen. Well, if you look at things objectively, without rose-tinted and romantic and partial and 'wanting to believe' spectacles, why wait that long in the first place?? History is littered with folks who have honestly convinced themselves they "saw" or "witnessed" a place or event and its nothing more than an chimera. You contradict yourself on many points by asking "what was a Black privateers pay in 1941?"
Isn't that even more reason to try and recover this alleged treasure?
Simply quoting the SRI data is irrelevant. All that proves is that Jones probably did enter a cavern there, but that is not the crux of the matter. What is, is da
GOLD!
If he had taken a few bars, nuggets, dust and tried sooner to retrieve it, then it would have made more sense. Why didn't he partner that he was hiking with try anything??
Many of these treasure legends/myths/stories have a reoccurring theme, I just like to deal in FACTS that can be evidenced without too many holes/gaps/peculiarities in the whole shebang.
So again I say "highly unlikely".
Hope that helps
IPUK
