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[Red_desert]

Yeah, and pictures of treasure stuff isn't really proof, they will say you are full of bull anyway lol.

The proof of the phenomena is in your own hands, and own interpretation. If you can hit golf balls into a forrest closing your eyes as they fly, then go fetch them like its nothing. You can either discover them with L rods, or locate the golf balls on a map, either way, if you do that, its your own proof. To go
and try and prove that to skeptics, who are never going to play golf with you or care, is the definition of losing you mind.

To engage people who absolutely believe this impossible, is a waste of life, and they are wasting their lives engaging us. I wouldn't go to a church and question people's convictions, i will gladly let them believe and give away their money there... the same goes for the official science, there is just no time
to check in with those scientists and they dont have time for people like us.. everyone is doing their own business.

If the skeptics want to bring $50k and play some golf, game on, but they wont, because they arent so sure after all.. googling and quoting mainstream science on forums is different than risking $50k for some golf balls.. they just dont have the balls.

I know of at least 2 incredible treasure caches recovered here in the forum and both refused to post their finds because of what was said to them before checking it out. Sure, I've seen a lot of questionable maps here on the forum. Not everyone claims ability to dowse maps/photos is able to get consistent results. Sometimes I think girls on the FB pendulum dowsing group could do much better than most here.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Wef_Insect_Burger, please watch the language we have young members here.

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[Carl-NC]

Real education is not telling people only what they can or cannot do.

Sorry, I don't subscribe to the "anything is possible if you just wish hard enough" philosophy. Physics imposes real limitations and you cannot wish your way around them. As a designer of geophysics devices I have to work within the rules, so I make it a point to know and understand the rules.

 

[Carl-NC]

If the skeptics want to bring $50k and play some golf, game on, but they wont, because they arent so sure after all.. googling and quoting mainstream science on forums is different than risking $50k for some golf balls.. they just dont have the balls.

I suspect you are aware of my $25,000 challenge which is where the $50k comes from. But, yeah, if it's a wager I'll put up $50k against your ability to dowse a golf ball's location. But it has to be done with some rigor: a golf ball hidden in 1-of-N marked locations, and you have to dowse the correct location with an X% success rate. Interested?

 

[WEF_Insect_Burger]

I suspect you are aware of my $25,000 challenge which is where the $50k comes from. But, yeah, if it's a wager I'll put up $50k against your ability to dowse a golf ball's location. But it has to be done with some rigor: a golf ball hidden in 1-of-N marked locations, and you have to dowse the correct location with an X% success rate. Interested?

Its one of the best ideas to test the concepts, i have just read up on golf balls. They glow very bright in UV flash lights, so people recover them at night with greater efficiency than in day time, no detectors would easily detect them.

Where is your original test protocol and challenge posted? Does it involve golf balls?

The well known historical test scenarios of dowsing and the many controversies to "prove it", for me, it doesn't cut it, even if the "dowsers" succeeded more than "chance" at some of these historical tests mentioned in articles, i personally wouldn't take it seriously as proof. And you would also probably say, these guys were just lucky... Am i correct? After my own studies, experiments on myself, and many other test subjects, i have determined dowsing does not work the way many would say. The test setups were wrong, and definitely the dowsers too, maybe this was deliberate or just ignorance, its not how i would test it to skeptics. I mean Randi's test area was 10x10 meters, got to be kidding me, minimum 100x100m, even 200x200m is better.

My honest opinion is, dowsers who participated in these tests most probably couldn't dowse correctly, and definitely used incorrect methodology, they were not evaluated by researchers serious enough in the "art" they were going to "prove". Look at what is going on this
forum, you have EMF suit dowsers, admitting they cannot dowse or even prove it, spamming and arguing, never once applying the most basic protocols of this art. Invalid dowsers + Invalid Test proves nothing.

As skeptic you ought to know, choosing the worst of the worst dowsers in the world to conduct your business of skepticism, it makes me skeptical of the skeptics, are you guys for real, or is this a joke? Anything can proven or disproved if you are experimenting inside the local psychiatric hospital. The skeptics are not rigorous enough in my own opinion, they are happy with outcomes good enough to convince lay people.

I propose the Bushwhacker Golf protocol

It is the final boss level test of dowsing, thousands of times, more difficult and rigorous than Randi could have ever imagined, he was generous, and almost desperate in allowing dowsers to "dictate" their terms of success, some sources say 60% or 80% correctness to take his money. Some dowsers apparently claimed 100%, they all failed according to Google, and so dowsing was debunked forever in the mickey mouse test scenarios with most dowsers choosing to remain anonymous, some famous ones which i didnt even care to Google. The Bottom line is they all failed, Randy kept his money, and so dowsing is debunked "forever", thank you have a nice day.

Under the Bushwhacker Golf protocol, nothing less than 100% accuracy is accepted, definitely no EMF suits, no gimmick L-rods with frequencies or sample containers, no witchcraft, no maps or bones, even sasquatch teeth are banned unfortunately. Dowsers are banned too, thats right, nobody who has made any claims about dowsing or done any prior research should play. The area must be thoroughly blasted by 1G/2G/3G/4G/5G frequencies from nearby RF towers, just to spice the challenge up.

The Bushwhacker golfers are told only what they need to know, to hold and observe their only golf ball, then to whack it out into
the bushes more than 100m, long grass, corn fields, whatever works... At night time without moon light. If there is a river, noise would be helpful to eliminate the golfers to hear where their ball fell.

They now receive 15 minutes of training+instruction from someone that meets this criteria, 1) non mentally ill dowsing researcher 2) active Bushwhacker golfing Wizard.

Thereafter they are sent into the dark bushes alone to retrieve their only golf ball, with some bent welding wires, which must be found within 15 minutes depending on the terrain challenges, they can only use the UV light, it helps in the grass.

The process is repeated 5 times, if the ball is lost, mission failed, if the golfer gives up or expresses doubts, mission failed.

If the ball comes back, the Bushwhacker golfer survived the tigers, ghosts, snakes and sasquatches - he passes and gets accepted
into the Bushwhacker Science Society for even more difficult challenges.

What is proven by the Bushwhacker golfing protocol is that dowsers are the problem in testing, random test subjects can perform almost flawlessly.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

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[WEF_Insect_Burger]

Sorry, I don't subscribe to the "anything is possible if you just wish hard enough" philosophy. Physics imposes real limitations and you cannot wish your way around them. As a designer of geophysics devices I have to work within the rules, so I make it a point to know and understand the rules.

The scientific method still applies, and it cannot be really be wished away for convenience. You validly believe and trust conventional physics, it is your safe space, and part of your identity as "geophysics device designer".

You probably designed and tested many devices, and i am not skeptical if they work or not, they would definitely work and have calibration/testing procedures, these designs comply with the rules of physics in your own words, they will do nothing else than be
compliant, just like you want them to be, if they exhibited unexpected behavior, any good engineer would "engineer" flaws out.

I give courtesy to all disciplines in science and engineering, and use all kinds of test equipment and machinery, if they get the job done
that is cool with me, i dont go and study the officially published scientific rules of how they operate, or suggest people need to be sent to
re-education camps to be fixed.. if they happen to use ideas or systems which are not in compliance with some other human's literature.

It looks to me, like the current version of the physics scriptures , which you consider the final say for all eternity has run into some problems and might need some updates, the original prophets of these theories are quiet and long gone, all that is left are parrot like
repetitions of their passages... Unbelievers must be re-educated you say.

How is it rational to oppress your own thoughts and mind? But far worse is the fact that "trust the science" guys do not even apply the scientific method themselves, accepting the powers that be to do the thinking for them.

Telekinesis is something kids and old ladies can test and verify, as one engineer from Boeing left his job to teach Telekinesis to 17 000 people in 360 workshops in the 1980s, documenting and filming everything. He sometimes asked $10 for people to attend, to cover the costs of venue hire. This was his unique method of demonstrating something (Dowsing's fundamentals) which violates the 330 year old scriptures and prophecies.

He knew there was no other way, and this must have been the most exhaustive application scientific method to prove something, and still proved nothing to demoralized skeptics, and it will never prove anything to them.

"You will know nothing, and be happy" - Never use your own mind, trust the science bro.

 

[DizzyDigger]

WEF_Insect_Burger: You have 28 posts on the site, and Dowser has been here for
years, learning and sharing as he goes. Whatever you might think of his processes
and procedures, he's earned his stripes.

If your concept of telekinesis and locating treasure was so superior and reproducible,
there would be individuals making millions annually by applying it to modern science
and industry. Still, that's just my opinion based on logic and reasoning (aka: people are
greedy).

So far, you've provided *nothing* in the way of proof to validate yourself, and as for
putting down others for their efforts? Not cool.

 

[WEF_Insect_Burger]

The point is taken,
And if you care for him, then advise him to stop announcing that he cannot dowse, and never managed to replicate it, in fact
you can advise him to start dowsing + follow the basic protocols. Anyone can dowse, kids and old ladies, almost everyone hits it first time,
no expert wizardry required.

When we see skeptics and "dowsers" battle it out on the threads here, it doesn't look like any of them are really serious, maybe the real goal is to increase post counts? As you are also now skeptical here of dowsing and conveniently increasing your post count here trying to defend dowsers who cannot dowse in their own words.... Sounds like post count farming here.

Its 100% correct and true that i have provided nothing that you constitute as proof, and you have to be realistic, you will never receive anything you will accept as proof from me or others who research this field.

Ultimately what you will accept as proof is impossible to achieve, the scriptures of physics are set in stone for all eternity and all the "scientists" of the world will defend it forever, dismissing anything which doesn't align with their 300+ year old models.

So what does your logic say about getting the strongest stainless steel cutlery in your kitchen and just bending it, after watching Jack Houck's recordings of random old ladies and kids doing it on their first attempts? You are 100% not going to attempt it, because it sounds stupid to you, and thats okay, you are just compliant and loyal to the scriptures of physics.

If you haven't made dowsing rods or bent difficult metals with your mind yet, you will exist in a different paradigm, so if it serves you and makes you complete, then don't ever attempt Houck's experiments in dowsing and bending, accept that you will bend nothing and dowse nothing, and be happy..

WEF_Insect_Burger: You have 28 posts on the site, and Dowser has been here for
years, learning and sharing as he goes. Whatever you might think of his processes
and procedures, he's earned his stripes.

If your concept of telekinesis and locating treasure was so superior and reproducible,
there would be individuals making millions annually by applying it to modern science
and industry. Still, that's just my opinion based on logic and reasoning (aka: people are
greedy).

So far, you've provided *nothing* in the way of proof to validate yourself, and as for
putting down others for their efforts? Not cool.

 

[Carl-NC]

It looks to me, like the current version of the physics scriptures , which you consider the final say for all eternity has run into some problems and might need some updates, the original prophets of these theories are quiet and long gone, all that is left are parrot like
repetitions of their passages... Unbelievers must be re-educated you say.

The scientific method is currently the overwhelmingly best way to understand the universe we live in. Guessing, wishing, and believing come nowhere close. The wonderful part about science is that it does not consider much of anything as proven; proofs are for mathematicians, numismatists, and distillers. Science simply goes where the evidence leads. In 1904 the Newtonian laws of motion had been successful for 218 years, then an upstart named Einstein said, "Uh, just a second..." and showed a different approach. The theory of relativity isn't something that has to be believed by anyone because it can be demonstrated, by anyone, anywhere. That's how science works; there are no prophets or gods dictating what you must believe, and every ounce of knowledge that science has given us is independently verifiable.

The we have dowsing, telekinesis, ESP, and a host of other paranormal beliefs. And that's just what they are: beliefs. When it comes time to demonstrate those powers, under reasonable protocols, the claimants can't seem to ever do it. They can only do it when science isn't watching, or when cheating is permitted. Any decent magician can bend spoons, but they will also tell you they are using trickery, not telekinesis. Same as Geller, same as anyone else. So using spoon bending as an example of mystical powers makes me laugh out loud, way more than dowsing because it's so overtly fake. At least with dowsing, the "pull" of the rods is a weird enough feeling to cause self-deceptive beliefs in the dowser.

I'm currently traveling to do some testing on my scientific designs. When I get a chance I'll post a test protocol for dowsing golf balls. It won't involve a golf club, a UV light, or stumbling around in the rough hoping to get lucky. It will be a golf ball, placed on the ground right in front of you, with you dowsing its location. You either either correctly dowse it, or you don't; the results do not need to be judged.

 

[DizzyDigger]

When we see skeptics and "dowsers" battle it out on the threads here, it doesn't look like any of them are really serious, maybe the real goal is to increase post counts? As you are also now skeptical here of dowsing and conveniently increasing your post count here trying to defend dowsers who cannot dowse in their own words.... Sounds like post count farming here.

Perhaps you're missing the point; your arrogance and presumptuousness regarding your
knowledge of the subject would be somewhat entertaining if you were not so demeaning of
the efforts of others.

Simply due to your comments, I would accept Carl or Dowser's opinions over yours every day
of the week and twice on Sunday. As for "post count"..another errant presumption.

Believe I'll join Dowser (and no doubt others) and just stay off your threads.

 

[WEF_Insect_Burger]

Sounds good to me,

I have nothing new of my own to claim here, i work according to the book Supersensonics and writings of Jack Houck on the matter of dowsing and telekinesis, they have gone through the exhaustive work of testing and documenting the matter at hand here. I have merely
taken their words, used my own mind and tested it for myself and with other random people.

Your friend Dowser, cannot dowse (in his own words), thinks the above book dowsing is nonsense, among other things, what kind of a dowser is that, who questions people who are making simple recommendations how to dowse?? He is a definitely a dowsing skeptic with the most ironic nickname on this forum, you can just read his posts as he tries to ridicule people who actually dowse.


Believe his word and "You will dowse nothing, and be happy", as he has "proven" to you over many years and thousands of posts that
"Dowsing is impossible" because of frequencies, and other nonsense. He was your proof dowsing was not real, now you are unhappy that
people do not constitute his opinions as "proof".

We are in the dowsing forum here, and you skeptics came here to antagonize people doing dowsing research, and you are absolutely welcome, it does not get under my skin or others aware of your paradigms, my identity is not tied to dowsing, i am merely saying the scriptures most take as eternal truth have some problem and wishing the problem away will not make it better. People will continue to dowse, bend metals and experiment.

Perhaps you're missing the point that your arrogance and presumptuousness regarding your
knowledge of the subject would be somewhat entertaining if you were not so demeaning of
the efforts of others.

Simply due to your comments, I would accept Carl or Dowser's opinions over yours every day
of the week and twice on Sunday. As for "post count"..another errant presumption.

Believe I'll join Dowser (and no doubt others) and just stay off your threads.

 

[WEF_Insect_Burger]

The scientific method is currently the overwhelmingly best way to understand the universe we live in. Guessing, wishing, and believing come nowhere close. The wonderful part about science is that it does not consider much of anything as proven; proofs are for mathematicians, numismatists, and distillers. Science simply goes where the evidence leads. In 1904 the Newtonian laws of motion had been successful for 218 years, then an upstart named Einstein said, "Uh, just a second..." and showed a different approach. The theory of relativity isn't something that has to be believed by anyone because it can be demonstrated, by anyone, anywhere. That's how science works; there are no prophets or gods dictating what you must believe, and every ounce of knowledge that science has given us is independently verifiable.

The we have dowsing, telekinesis, ESP, and a host of other paranormal beliefs. And that's just what they are: beliefs. When it comes time to demonstrate those powers, under reasonable protocols, the claimants can't seem to ever do it. They can only do it when science isn't watching, or when cheating is permitted. Any decent magician can bend spoons, but they will also tell you they are using trickery, not telekinesis. Same as Geller, same as anyone else. So using spoon bending as an example of mystical powers makes me laugh out loud, way more than dowsing because it's so overtly fake. At least with dowsing, the "pull" of the rods is a weird enough feeling to cause self-deceptive beliefs in the dowser.

I'm currently traveling to do some testing on my scientific designs. When I get a chance I'll post a test protocol for dowsing golf balls. It won't involve a golf club, a UV light, or stumbling around in the rough hoping to get lucky. It will be a golf ball, placed on the ground right in front of you, with you dowsing its location. You either either correctly dowse it, or you don't; the results do not need to be judged.

Perfect, lets see the protocol you propose.

Yes you are correct, its all beliefs. You believe and trust the accepted scriptures, and guess what i also accept the same as you scriptures for the conditions+experiments they are tested and proven in. The difference is i don't believe the scriptures as the final say, because my observations have proven to me otherwise.

Never make the golf ball protocol too easy, i think its better if someone threw it from a helicopter to be honest. If someone cant find the golf ball in a reasonable amount of time, and at least 5 times, it proves they cannot find it. Correct? It doesn't prove dowsing doesn't work or works, because there are different dowsers with different techniques. It proves the specific dowser who couldn't find it is not able to dowse.

And if the most famous dowser on this forum says it doesn't work, then dowsing must obviously be impossible too, why even test, look at that man's post count and his stripes.

 

[WEF_Insect_Burger]

Reconciliation between Telekinesis and Physics/Science/Religion/Skeptics (whatever you trust/believe that has either banned it or ridiculed it) will never happen in our lives..

It is the problem child organized science institutions created themselves, they have no-one else to blame than themselves for letting this cat out of the bag. The cat is out of the bag, putting it back is very difficult, people are increasingly skeptical of information, you will not question anything and be happy

Those rods move in people's hands, so the respected and trusted elders, issued the final decree, "its just ideomotor effects, nothing to see here"

Their decree is enough for the majority of posters here to accept it as truth, and not look any further. The matter is done and dusted. So lets try to antagonize anyone who did not accept this decree.

So there jumps another cat out of the bag, people who never cared about conspiracies of bending spoons, i was 100% skeptical of that Geller man myself, but Jack Houck demonstrated 17 000 people could do what Geller claimed made him special, now he isn't so special anymore. Geller scammed people on the basis that he implied he was special back then, maybe he reconciled with the large scale Telekinesis party movement, or not.

Geller doesn't matter anymore, nobody is too special anymore, that special dowsing dude people might have thought was so special isn't really special, as everyone's dowsing and bending metals, if they are not mentally contaminated beforehand. The cat is out of the bag and isnt even worth it to bring old letters of Einstein as last ditch attempts prove anything.

 

[Red_desert]

Had to do the AI search see what NASA has to say about gravity. Not all waves are electromagnetic.

🧭 What NASA actually says​

NASA describes gravitational waves as:

• “Invisible ripples in the fabric of space‑time” created by massive accelerating objects like merging black holes or neutron stars.
• These waves are predicted by Einstein’s General Relativity, not by electromagnetism.
• They are detected by measuring tiny changes in distance using laser interferometers (LIGO, LISA), not by detecting electromagnetic radiation.

 

[WEF_Insect_Burger]

I did some research on the forums too, the skeptics and the dowsers been fighting out here for 25+ years. I and read about all the negotiations for the $1M randi money and the $25k.

The end conclusion is, dowsers will never change their beliefs until their final days, Carl confirms this in him personally meeting Randi, i take his account as truthful, and then he did something respectable by visiting a prominent dowser during his final days in the RV park, Carl has put considerable efforts to try and disprove or even prove dowsing, i can safely say he's dedicated his life to combat what he says he believes is scientific heresy/fraud.

The dowser from the RV park he visited, should have had some success in dowsing with own his devices or sales, or atleast take Randi or Carl's money, he didn't, and the man was not successful from Carl's accounts. For people reading these testimonies, of multiple failures by confident dowsers and then them getting final boss K.O'd with the "Randi $1m challenge argument", it pushes the general consensus that dowsing doesn't work, its a trick of fraudsters, scammers, the delusional and mentally-ill.. So everyone believes. Protecting this "consensus" is what the skeptics like Carl or Randi would push for, not to lose their money. And it makes perfectly sense, they are afraid of losing their money, but they still need to defend their scriptures and own beliefs.

Carl in his own words knows the dowsers would find by "ideomotor effects" the hidden gold bar, if they knew where it was. He probably tested it and found rods moving in his hands, pointing to the location where he "knew" something was. The rods certainly do something in his hands, and probably attributed this to angles of the grip changing, manipulating it. Subconsciously the dowsers and their "ideomotor effects" is the reason, and then some chance + luck, dowsers are deceiving themselves, but put under the tests, they are surprised how wrong they were, he mentioned one specific "honest" dowser who admitted to him something is off. He owns 100 books on dowsing and all kinds of LRL devices or Rods, and I cannot blame him for taking the position he has taken and still defends.

Now we come back to what i say in the Bushwhacker Golf protocol, the dowser is the most critical component in the test, bringing essentially broken dowsers with confidence will result in certain failure. And the fact of the matter is, the broken dowsers will flock to these tests, they have established some reputations, post counts, legendary statuses, they are not there to execute the protocol, more importantly they want the money and then the reputation gains for winning in the test. Look at the most prominent dowser in this forum, he is definitely angry at me, and other high-post count members came to try and defend him after he was reminded of his own words. The dowsers need to be challenged, or they will be destroyed by skeptics. This dowser is upgrading himself now and ordered his golf balls.

All dowsers and wannabe dowsers, we are like boxers who need boxing coaches and trainers, also need sparring sessions with real
opponents, without crying, (if anyone here has done real boxing training and sparring, my teeth were broken and cracked, ribs cracked, just from hard sparring), nobody cares and next day i was back training, no hard feelings, cracked ribs become a joke and initiation rite.
Sparring must happen between dowsers, or they will be K'O'd by skeptics throwing sucker punches, eg the scammy Randi punch. The punches from skeptics will demoralize you, until you call yourself dowser but also declare you cant dowse, or you will be depressed and find some old letter from Einstein for moral support, then get uppercutted when "insufficient proof" exists for that letter. Google all day until you find someone who said something good about dowsing to make you feel better, just to get KO'd again because that person was discredited for something. You wont find "proof" that is constituted by the skeptics "as proof" ever in your entire life, chances are bigger the skeptics will bring you food in your RV when you are done with life, so dont hate them, understand them rather, or you eventually become the skeptic dressed in EMF suits yourself and question others who just say go and do dowsing.

The science accepted by skeptics doesn't work in backwards directions, their "scientific method" works the other way around, the onus of proof is put on you, but this is the trap, its like death cults promising heavens to followers, but they have to be dead to see the proof one day, meanwhile they need to comply and give their tithes to cultists, unbelievers are ridiculed and banished for questioning the scriptures. You cant go their heaven and prove or disprove it, then come back to get the prize money. If you had any "proof", they would cite violations of their scriptures, or say their scriptures has stood for 200 years and none of their passages "allow" the phenomena you claim to be possible. Or the less rigorous would just apply their "logic" and say things like if this was true, "millions of dollars" were to be made, or Randi's prize money would be taken.

So forget the scammy tests and prize money, its a trick and joke pulled on you, to ridicule you and keep the general consensus of the populace in the right direction. Its not about your dowsing, its about making everyone think its stupid to even contemplate it.

If they were really serious, we'd be seeing green golf balls launched into forests, sand colored balls launched into sand dunes, and dowsers sent in to go and fetch them, with very short time allowances, we'd definitely be seeing them propose exceedingly difficult real world challenge protocols that would absolutely be impossible for the dowsers to complete given the scriptures of their version of science, come on guys, it will be so funny to see dowsers look for golf balls in real conditions and come back empty handed, admitting their defeat..

But no - the tests are mickey mouse tests, cups and pipes, nonsense put right in front of the dowsers, these tests are constituted as "scientific" tests for them, and only "proof" from mickey mouse tests are acceptable.

Doing the bushwhacker golf protocol is scientifically backwards in the official methodology, so they wont do it ever as it violates recommended scriptural procedures,but when the golf balls come back, all day long, the "reasonable man" will not bet his money against these golfers because he knows his money will be gone after witnessing it, the "skeptic" will not bet his money here, because he is unhappy there is no mickey mouse protocol followed.

Dowsers will go dowse with 1000x increased real world, bush difficulty , and be happy.
Skeptics will dowse nothing, believe the world that was pulled over their eyes, and of course be happy

 

[WEF_Insect_Burger]

While we are on the golf balls, i never even knew some bright spark American used car dealer (the most honest profession in modern day history) invented the solution to the bushwhacker golfing challenge 30+ years ago, and it also looks like the famous dowser is winning in his golfing.

On the third day after the protocols were written into the scriptures of "pseudo science" here, the dowser was resurrected and healed with full super capabilities to find golf balls, and he will soon reveal to the world he can find any golf ball anywhere, on the seventh day.

So below is information someone scanned from the old vintage device's pamphlets, seems like they sold them for $10 or $20, a cheap
plastic device with no batteries or electronics.

They claim kids find balls quick and easy, and show that in the video, along with other interesting tips in the scans below!..

And its old instruction VHS with some tips:

At the end is the aftermath of this device as from Google AI.. ( I know someone will try to share it, i am well aware of the
fraud committed here)

This device was ultimately banned and suppressed thoroughly by multiple court orders and caused
apparently what they call "global crisis" when it popped out in the third world. So the FBI Laboratory and scientists
at Sandia National Laboratories got involved as expert witnesses in the US case, from the AI summaries we can assume they spent millions of dollars to debunk a plastic shell with radio antenna from China.

It is proven "fraud" and "fake" in a 100 different ways, documented tests, analysis and legal court documents, the amount of money they asked for it when sold to police customers was also abhorrently scammy in my opinion, i call them fraudsters any day for what they did financially.

But did the court of law, and scientists go to the golf course roughs to look for golf balls, where the concept originated, it definitely didn't, and ordinary people are not banned from playing golf more "efficiently". Play golf and be happy.

 

[Carl-NC]

But no - the tests are mickey mouse tests, cups and pipes, nonsense put right in front of the dowsers, these tests are constituted as "scientific" tests for them, and only "proof" from mickey mouse tests are acceptable.

I gotta say, for a guy who just showed up here, you've already got all the dowser's alibis down pat. Must be an innate trait of dowsers.

I've been around a lot of dowsers and watched them self-test to demonstrate their skills. Invariably they like to place a target on the ground and then walk around it to show how the L-rods react. They'll stretch a garden hose on the ground, turn on the water, and walk across it to prove that the rods cross right over the hose. Or drop a bag of silver coins on the ground and walk around it, with the rods always swinging to point to the silver.

Are you saying the very tests they do to demonstrate their dowsing skills are bogus?

I was at the Texas Treasure Show around 2000 when I met LRL salesman Jim Thomas, who was demonstrating his LRL using a big fat gold ring. He would place the gold ring on the table and show everyone how his LRL could detect it. So I challenged him to find it under a paper cup. I placed 4 cups on the floor and put the ring under one of them while he wasn't looking. On his first attempt he selected the wrong cup (took him a while, too). I removed that cup and gave him a second shot -- now only 3 cups to chose from. Failed again. Was that unfair?

So here's the question: How far away, and how close, can you locate a golf ball?

 

[Carl-NC]

At the end is the aftermath of this device as from Google AI

Ask AI how many people were killed in the 2016 Karrada attack when a car bomb got through an Iraqi checkpoint that was using a dowsing rod (ADE 651) to detect explosives. A direct descendant of the golf ball finder.

BTW, I own one of those golf ball finders, in the original box. It's all fun-n-games until someone gets blown to smithereens.

 

[WEF_Insect_Burger]

Are you saying the very tests they do to demonstrate their dowsing skills are bogus?

The simple tests in small areas are only good enough to demonstrate the rods moving, it demonstrates the lock onto "something", and the little situation with the rods "pointing" here and there are good enough to convince many people, the "hobbyist treasure dowser" who hasn't experimented yet accepts this as "enough proof". There is a very high probability he will find basic utilities cables/pipes/etc all day long. Those who use the L-rods on their jobs become good at it, and will swear by it, use it for decades. They solved some real world problem for themselves, if they couldn't find the cable faults/etc they would be out of business, and they dont know much about dowsing, except what someone from older generations taught them on the job. Their rods will be dirty old things thrown on the back of the pickup truck in tool boxes. They dont even dowsing by its name, in myself personally asking them questions, many didn't really know what they were doing, some didn't even know there are skeptics, or no "official science", they never even googled it. I call this category of dowsers, the "monkey wrench dowsers"

The monkey wrenchers have no agenda or incentive to deceive or ask you money for their knowledge, the only tests they have done are real world usage for decades in harsh environments, but if you are to subject them to the tests commonly proposed by "debunkists", they are high likely to fail, that is if you can find some pure monkey wrench level dowser somewhere for experimentation.

A lot of things related to dowsing is bogus from my point of view, and just cannot be taken seriously, its become the ultimate scamming and money grabbing fest, with ghost buster clearing and EMF suit dowsers. Just imagine paying $500 to virtually attend the ASD conference only to hear dowsing is not possible, because of frequencies or demons. Its why i say in the Bushwhacker golf protocol,
it required non mentally ill test subjects, bringing the best of the best ghost busters from ASD will result in lost golf balls/failure

So here's the question: How far away, and how close, can you locate a golf ball?

The further the better in locating applications, in my earliest testing I studied and experimented with incorrect indications practically, then i repeated the same incorrect indications in "never dowsed before" people i tested on. Then corrected them. Its how I figured out for myself the common errors and why they happen consistently. I worked with a few people who considered themselves "educated" in dowsing, who confessed their difficulties and failures to me, one has become skeptical and given up, others are afraid of ghost and treasure protection demons/spirits, preventing them to experiment.

Dowsing golf balls is like the Gopher instruction VHS, that is the exact and good enough protocol to find golf balls, the used car sales man was honest for once in his life, until he became a greedy scammer.