Legend vs Realitiy

[Blindbowman]

stupid Apache you blew up the wrong thing .. the mines is over there ...Da ! that's funny ...lol

 

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[Blindbowman]

what's the odds all the things the say are at the Tayopa site is at my Topira site ... that's funny ..lol

 

[Blindbowman]

if the LDM is so close to all these other things why do think they don't care about it ,... maybe it pocket change next to the real treasures ...that's funny ....lol

 

[Blindbowman]

In 1885 Britton Davies, an officer in the Us army, spoke to some locals in a village called Nacori, and they told him about the Tayopa mines. They said the Apache's attack the town, destroyed it, burned it to the ground, and blew up the mind entrance, and destroyed the church too . i agree with every word of that .... that's funny

 

[azdave35]

Dont worry Chuck, the thread is just an exercise in how to turn a thread that has nothing to do with the Lost Dutchman Mine topic into a personal Facebook page all with the approval of TNet moderators.

matthew..i hate to agree with bowman but he is right...its his thread ..either put him on ignore or don't read his thread...start your own thread ..if he gets uppity on your thread the mods will warn him...i do find it a little odd that if i post a story that is related to the superstition mountains and the ldm the mods remove it and start another forum for it...but other guys come on here and carry on about aztecs..shaymen...and a million other things that have nothing to do with the ldm and they let it ride

 

[Blindbowman]

matthew..i hate to agree with bowman but he is right...its his thread ..either put him on ignore or don't read his thread...start your own thread ..if he gets uppity on your thread the mods will warn him...i do find it a little odd that if i post a story that is related to the superstition mountains and the ldm the mods remove it and start another forum for it...but other guys come on here and carry on about aztecs..shaymen...and a million other things that have nothing to do with the ldm and they let it ride

.... Dave are you listening to what your saying . this post was made to widen the spectrum of the research area . both in location and related evidence ... I fully agree .. I stated that from the start of thread ... its taken me almost 25 years to pin down the location of the tunnel ...these guys all want the road map to it ... not happen ...

 

[Hillbilly Prince]

matthew..i hate to agree with bowman but he is right...its his thread ..either put him on ignore or don't read his thread...start your own thread ..if he gets uppity on your thread the mods will warn him...i do find it a little odd that if i post a story that is related to the superstition mountains and the ldm the mods remove it and start another forum for it...but other guys come on here and carry on about aztecs..shaymen...and a million other things that have nothing to do with the ldm and they let it ride

At least you are responsible for starting another forum on Tnet even if your tale was fact and not a legend. I really wish more people would contribute their stories to your thread cause I suspect some of you guys have some stories as good or better than those in many of the LDM books.
Well, I asked and Bowman said the seven caves are in the Superstitions.
No disrespect to Bowman, but opinions and theories about anything are just that until someone comes up with hard evidence.
It's true the thread has been all over the place. I got interested in the Aztecs, but cannot make a connection to LDM.
I would suggest one cannot truly call the LDM a bonafide legend until somebody can tie the KGC, 33° Masons, or the Knights Templar in- preferably all three

 

[Blindbowman]

At least you are responsible for starting another forum on Tnet even if your tale was fact and not a legend. I really wish more people would contribute their stories to your thread cause I suspect some of you guys have some stories as good or better than those in many of the LDM books.
Well, I asked and Bowman said the seven caves are in the Superstitions.
No disrespect to Bowman, but opinions and theories about anything are just that until someone comes up with hard evidence.
It's true the thread has been all over the place. I got interested in the Aztecs, but cannot make a connection to LDM.
I would suggest one cannot truly call the LDM a bonafide legend until somebody can tie the KGC, 33° Masons, or the Knights Templar in- preferably all three

I am a freemason ....lol

 

[Blindbowman]

my family crest has 3 black crosses they were red ...!

 

[Blindbowman]

sorry cant play any more ...!

 

[Blindbowman]

you ever hear the stories about ghost towns . some times there is 4 or 5 stories about each house in the town .. a saloon maybe a dozen or two stories over the years ... and how many building made up a town .. that what we have with legends here ...they are so close together they have built up around each other ...you can say what ever you want .. but I did not put that sphinx up there .. I did not draw all those drawings on the wall ' I did not blow the mine or seven caves I did hide the tunnel or build the church of hide the jewels .. or count the wagons ..I am just living any a lot of realities and I see what many will never see ...I not stupid . I am dying and every time I ride my bike care less and less about treasure hunting .. that's reality

 

[Al D]

matthew..i hate to agree with bowman but he is right...its his thread ..either put him on ignore or don't read his thread...start your own thread ..if he gets uppity on your thread the mods will warn him...i do find it a little odd that if i post a story that is related to the superstition mountains and the ldm the mods remove it and start another forum for it...but other guys come on here and carry on about aztecs..shaymen...and a million other things that have nothing to do with the ldm and they let it ride

I wish you were right Dave, but BB has spread his version of reality on other threads, there is no indication that he is going to lighten up on this crap

 

[Ol' Kentuck]

I wish you were right Dave, but BB has spread his version of reality on other threads, there is no indication that he is going to lighten up on this crap

What you accept is what will continue. As long as there is a response, it will feed the need.

I'm outta here.

 

[Blindbowman]

I can walk away with the gold & a few of the cache ... no problem ..

 

[Blindbowman]

ya I am out here to .. you guys can hold hands ...lol

 

[Blindbowman]

it never stops to amaze me how much quality high speed photo can catch the hidden details .. we have found a word on one of the stones with a date . the word is a name "Gonzales the date is 1578 ....found at the church site "

 

[markmar]

Something real to have stare at

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[Blindbowman]

I am very glad don't listen to the trolls around .. check this out the Cibola had stone wall around it . with large fitted stones , kind of hard to fake that or distory it ...I found a few place where you still see parts of the wall ... welcome to Cibola !

 

[markmar]

I know you have not idea where the Topira is, and because I know you will never see it, I post an aerial image of Tayopa just to see how it's looking even from above. If you are interested in the jewels, use your magic skills to find out where this place is

 

[Blindbowman]

Markmar, you do know there is more then one tayopa right ? and yes I do know there is one in Mexico ... me and Real de Tayopa talked about this in detail ... at one point I think we agreed that there was in fact 3 different site called Tayopa .. Topira is what they called one of the Tayopa sites in the early days of its development , if you do some real research into the topic you will find out that few people get beyond the thrill of the treasure trove and look at the real facts ..if you can locate any one of these chances are you have found something worth finding .. I am shocked by the fact there are many treasures out there that no even knows about ... did you know in the early history of Topira they wanted to keep it hidden ...and IMHO that's why there are more then one site ..in fact it is my theory that is why Real de Tayopa site was hidden . each of these site my hold there own treasures ..Spaniards were not fools .. they keep their site well protected and knew the best ways to keep them hidden .. the sheer fact that the Spaniards did not want their site history recorded they were most likely using tribes to slave in their mines ... the only difference between real de Tayopa's site and this one is the fact this site was a center point of native American cultures far before it was ever call Topira I don't post everything I find at the site I have over a dozen places where Tayopa and Topira are draw on the walls ..I have been to Mexico and I believe we will have to see the bigger picture before we fully under stand why the Spaniards did what they did ..they had their reason and logic .. but we were not they so it is up to us to search and locate sites and I don't care what you call a site .. in time your going to see its whole history un fold and it could have a dozen names if it is as old as the site I am working on . I have 16 site in a 4 mile area ...but the fact is the LDN is only one part of a complex history and as each culture inhabited the site they were destroyed and covered over as many historic sites are .. I can say one thing for sure they say the apache blew up the mine and destroyed the site .. that's not true . they did try to kill off anyone in their holly place .. they did blow up the LDM they were trying to seal the seven caves to stop the Spaniards from ram sacking their native American history ... these other treasures and ore mean nothing to them its the evil that greed feeds on ...I have researched thousands of hours one photo scaning real photo to locate even the most fine evidence that is lost and hidden in a beautiful but un Godly rough wilderness 99 out of 100% of the people that walk by this site will never even know it was ever there ...and that's a fact but a dog don't always see the hidden bone . that feeds him down the line .. so be so fast to judge what I am doing just because it dose not fit what others think .. I am looking for what everyone thinks is out there . I looking at what is out there that waits in the shadows and wil;l some day solve a few legends if I keep working and researching the details I am finding .. a lot of real sites take many years of hard work and searching to become transparent even enough to know they are not just legends ... I have a lot of very little pieces of a great puzzle ,it takes time and I am getting old and my health is not that great . the expeditions took their toll on me and I sure I have to go back one more time .. you don't have to believe anything I say . that's up to you .. but I do have evidence and I am building the back ground work that has to be done to define legend into the reality that it came from ... who knows what and where the spill pattern will end up .all I can do IMHO is my best and I have worked most of my life to be where I am ... standing at the gates of Cibola .. win or loose I am there ...