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Hello All,

The Iron Brigade is in a race against the plow now. After Tuesday and Thursday's successful hunts, I thought we should hit the fields again before the hourglass runs out and the fields are planted. I got together with Hill Billy and Digger Girl, and hit the road. :) I'd pinpointed the location of an old house site in a corn field--and I'm glad I'd located it so well, because the property owner was hesitant to let us hunt it for fear of us walking onto someone else's property. I at one point wanted to say "Look, Lady--I KNOW where your property line is, and I ain't even from around here!" LOL. I pointed to a little knoll where I just *knew* the house site was, and said "I'd only like to metal detect on that hill there, if that's o.k." She at that point said yes, and then said that there was never mention of a house being there. I said we'd just like to find out. ;D And she wished us luck and off we went. Whew! Buckleboy pulls through with the permission by the skin of his teeth :thumbsup: Then I started thinking that I hoped that it was where I thought it was!

When we walked out to the hill, I started seeing pieces of broken brick, pottery, and glass. :thumbsup:

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So we started working the site. Here are Hill Billy and Digger Girl working hard:

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HB made the comment that there could be Native American artifacts at the site--due to all the stone in the field, and even though I'd never, EVER found an arrowhead while I was detecting, I started looking as I swung. And ladies and gentlemen, I walked up on a Huge point in that field! This thing is almost 5 inches long! I picked it up and called HB over to look. Now I'm mentally challenged when it comes to artifacts that aren't made of metal, so any information on this point would be much appreciated.

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And a shot from the side to show the working in detail.

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I also picked up this stone that wasn't native to the area we were in. Totally different kind of rock. And very smooth--it fits well in my palm. Could this be an artifact as well?!




After pounding the site for several long hours, we'd picked up many examples of the usual culprits: suspender clips, harmonica reeds, lantern wicks, and small buckles. I got an excellent Dog Tag from 1898. :) Here are all the finds, cleaned up:




I also got this interesting piece with a figure (holding a sword?) and a tiny glass bead. I thought this might be a trade bead, but it looks like it might be machine-manufactured. So I'm not sure. Again, any information is much appreciated.




And a shot of the stone and point:




I'll let the other members of the team post their finds. We'll be back at it again on Tuesday--come rain or shine. Gotta beat the spring planting to get at the goodies!

Regards,


Buckleboy
 
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Will, that is one great site, love the pics and the finds. The stone most likely a Hammer Stone but maybe Im wrong, if there are marks on the edge from grinding or striking it is an artifact. The point must be a knife or spear type I would imagine, without going to the reference books, but I also like the shards you photographed, HISTORY!!! :)

Don
 
Neat finds and great pics BB
Should be more there waiting to be found.
Your excellent research is paying off :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
Great time we had today.Thanks Buckles for the fun day in the field.Finding that point was really cool.I still can't believe I had just got done telling you to keep your eyes open for arrowheads,and bam there you are saying is this an arrowhead?Congrats that is a great find.I believe it is a Lost Lake with a broken base and ears.
Thought I would just add to your post and throw in the pics of the stuff I found.Once again thanks for the good time.
 

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CONGRATES ON THE FIELD FINDS THERE. PRETTY GOOD LUCK YOU HAVE :icon_pirat:
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT A HOUSE STOOD THERE , LET ALONE A
POSSIBLE NATIVE AMERICAN SITE ( INDIAN VILLAGE ). TELL THE OTHERS
BEST OF LUCK. KEEP ON DIGG'IN


KNEES TO THE DIRT,
SHOVAL IN THE GROUND... :thumbsup:

M L HUDSON
 
Don in SJ said:
Will, that is one great site, love the pics and the finds. The stone most likely a Hammer Stone but maybe Im wrong, if there are marks on the edge from grinding or striking it is an artifact. The point must be a knife or spear type I would imagine, without going to the reference books, but I also like the shards you photographed, HISTORY!!! :)

Don

As you know, some of the house sites are difficult to find. This one was a breeze. I somehow just knew it would be there on that hill--and that sure came in handy in talking my way onto the site. The CW buckle site from Thursday was actually down in a low-lying area and in a wierd spot for a house site. Seems like some of those early sites were almost hidden from view.

-BB
 
Cool finds! That is a sweet looking point congratulations on that, and I would save that round rock too. If there is a spring or creek nearby I would definitely check out the fields for flint in those areas, look for higher ground near water.

Steve
 
Goldiver said:
Cool finds! That is a sweet looking point congratulations on that, and I would save that round rock too. If there is a spring or creek nearby I would definitely check out the fields for flint in those areas, look for higher ground near water.

Steve

No creek nearby--that's why that round stone was so out of place. It's a different color from all of the surrounding rock. So I picked it up.


-Buckles
 
Looks like you off to a great start, keep us informed

Cheers!

Dugholes :laughing7:
 
Another good day of hunting. Those suspender buckles are very ornate. I bet you have a pile of them by now. :wink:
 
{Sentinel} said:
Another good day of hunting. Those suspender buckles are very ornate. I bet you have a pile of them by now. :wink:

LOL Yep. I'm thinking about making a display case of just suspender buckles. I've never dug one that is a duplicate of any other. I'm sure that day will happen--because I've got a lot of 'em. So I think rather than organizing by month, that makes more sense. I just dont have room for all of the dug stuff--it's overrunning my life! (But I love it. :) ) So perhaps a big display of flat buttons, a display of Eagle buttons, and a display of suspender clips. Maybe just a shoebox for all the harmonica reeds, a box for the clock pieces...any type of find that's less display-worthy. I'll try it and see how it goes.

-Buckles
 
Buckleboy,

Nice point. What you have is an Archaic corner notch probably about 6000-8000 years old. It is a little hard to tell the exact type, b/c the ears and base are knocked off. I am sure it is Archaic b/c of the flaking patterns and the beveled blade edge. It should fit into the Kirk or Lost Lake classification. My treasure hunting career began as an indian artifact hunter and I have found buckets of arrowheads. The whole complete point became few and far between so I started metal detecting. I run a chapter of Ohio Archeaolist and put on a yearly show in Ohio. Basically, if you ever have questions about artifacts, I should know the answer. I included a few pics of whole pieces that are similar to your style.
Regards,
Jon Dickinson
www.prehistoricartifacts.com
 

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Pretty dang cool there BB and now your onto a new section of this great hobby, visual finds, so now your gonna need to find some more, I am sure you have seen how awesome they look in a shadow box display, then ya can hang em on you wall, I loved that one that someone did here, with alot of arrowheads in a circular pattern and a huge one in the middle,that was awesome looking... congrats big time on all you finds and your first arrowhead too :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:TIB rocks..
 
I must say that point is exceptional in addition to the suspenders buckles and the other stuff. As pointdlr said, what you found there is few and far between now. If someone judged Kentucky baseed on 'just' your finds, than they would say that Kentucky is producing as well as Virginia ever has!! :wink: :thumbsup: I know of a few guys who dug 3 plates at DIV and one that dug FIVE in a day but it is extremely rare and I would think a very near euphoric feeling ;D ;D ;D :wink: I have dug plates but never more than one in a day which is just so very exceptional. Not to mention that the fully intact 1850s Sword Belt Plate is VERY detailed for a dug plate! Again great job on the relics and plates Will :wink: :wink:
 
Jon,

Thank you for your reply to my post. It's great to know what I have now. With as much detecting as I have done, you'd think I'd have found a point in a field by now. It sounds like this one is an Excellent find to start out with. I'll be sure to contact you with any future questions I might have.


{Sentinel} said:
I must say that point is exceptional in addition to the suspenders buckles and the other stuff. As pointdlr said, what you found there is few and far between now. If someone judged Kentucky baseed on 'just' your finds, than they would say that Kentucky is producing as well as Virginia ever has!! :wink: :thumbsup: I know of a few guys who dug 3 plates at DIV and one that dug FIVE in a day but it is extremely rare and I would think a very near euphoric feeling ;D ;D ;D :wink: I have dug plates but never more than one in a day which is just so very exceptional. Not to mention that the fully intact 1850s Sword Belt Plate is VERY detailed for a dug plate! Again great job on the relics and plates Will :wink: :wink:

I couldn't hardly hold my hands still enough to snap the photos! I wish that wreath had survived--but I'm guessing they usually fell off the plates. I did rescan the hole on all-metal mode to no avail. The dirt has been pushed around as well--so I'm even more amazed that those two plates weren't damaged.

Thanks for the reply, buddy. And best wishes for any upcoming hunts you might have!


-Buckles
 
BB,
You guys never fail us. Great hunt & awesome pictures. There must be as many different buckles as there are buttons to be found. Very nice.
I like that little soldier piece. :thumbsup:
Congrats,
MM
P.S. You got me hooked on collecting pottery shards. ;D :wink:
 
ModernMiner said:
P.S. You got me hooked on collecting pottery shards.  ;D :wink:

Welcome to the dark side.  :D
 
That arrowhead looks to be a spearhead made of jasper. The stone, if anything, is most likely a grinding stone used to crush roots and flowers.
 

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