MX Sport turn around time?

GreenMeanie · Apr 8, 2016

I sent in my MXS and was wondering how long it sits at the factory waiting on the update from those of you who got them back.
Also did they send you a new tracking number when they shipped it back?

bowwinkles · Apr 8, 2016

The word is two weeks but right now it seems they have a bit of an issue of loosing the ones that have been returned for the upgrade.

GreenMeanie · Apr 8, 2016

Yeah I know about the 2 weeks I was wondering if anyone knew how long it took for them to flash their machine after it arrives there.
And what about losing them have more info on this?
It took a week for mine to get to them with the slow label they sent. So are you saying it will take them 2 weeks more to flash it and another week to send it back? I sure hope not if that is the case they can just send me a new one then.

vferrari · Apr 8, 2016

bowwinkles said:
The word is two weeks but right now it seems they have a bit of an issue of loosing the ones that have been returned for the upgrade.

Oh, brother...

GreenMeanie · Apr 8, 2016

OK I got a EMAIL with the tracking number for shipping it back to me just a little while ago.
So mine took 1 week to get to them and they UPDATED it with the new software and That took 3 days and I am suppose to have it back by the 15th.
I hope this helps others that had the same question as me.

vferrari · Apr 9, 2016

Good information to know. I am still debating as to whether I want to send it in because the issue, though present on my machine is really not a factor in the way I use the machine. In other words, I have seen tone smearing/lock-in but it is not repeatable such that if I repeatedly sweep the coil in different orientations once I get a solid hit (my standard practice), that adjacent target is going to ring up at some point and certainly after I dig and rescan the area, worst case. Recovery speed seems to be just fine. I am going to do more testing with all three coils and then make a final decision, but at least I now know what the turnaround time is. Appreciate you coming back and answering your original question for the benefit of the rest of us who are still mulling it over or who haven't yet heard of their upgrade status from Whites.

GreenMeanie · Apr 9, 2016

I did the test and it was a pretty bad recovery rate.
Whites did say thou if the patch the recovery rate the machine would lose depth. So I guess we have been sort of lied to about the Machines ability. They told us fast recovery like the MXT and great depth. I am sure people will be very vocal if this new patch doesn't pan out. I myself need it for trashy areas I hunt and if it can't do that it will have a FORSALE sign on it in the future.

vferrari · Apr 9, 2016

What coil are you using? I found that the accessory elliptical coil helps separate targets without much, if any, depth hit and really had to work at getting it to lock in. Seems like the perfect combo for trashy areas except for the investment in the new coil. I got the whites sport pack deal that includes both the concentric 950 and elliptical DD accessory coils and carrying bag for around $280. In any event, in my limied side-by-side-by-side target testing, recovery is not bad imho even without the mod upgrade and I own a Deus.

DiggerinVA · Apr 14, 2016

Sounds like the turn around time is about as bad as the recovery speed on this new wonder from Whites....

vferrari · Apr 14, 2016

Nice one. Haters gonna hate, I guess. But in all seriousness, I have not found the MXS recovery time to be lacking, but will attempt to run some objective tests against the veberable AT Pro, the detector against which the MXS most often compared. I am no stranger to a detector that exhibits good revovery owning a Deus and F75, but at twice the price of the MXS, I would expect them to out perform the MXS. I haven't found the difference too huge as far as recovery is concerned, however. But without some objective evidence to support our statements, we're both just blowing smoke. I welcome some links to objective test results to support either of our claims. The underlying recovery performance is independent of the tone smearing/locking issue Whites is offering the firmware update for IMO. I don't think I am even going to bother with the upgrade since the issue is practically nonexistant or does not noticeably impact my detecting so far.

dirtscratcher · Apr 14, 2016

DiggerinVA said:
Sounds like the turn around time is about as bad as the recovery speed on this new wonder from Whites....

https://youtu.be/y-uCVdIwmQw
Actually looks pretty fast. Considering all the problem garrett had with atpro seems common with new models.
https://youtu.be/kFTXct_NlnM

DiggerinVA · Apr 15, 2016

dirtscratcher said:
https://youtu.be/y-uCVdIwmQw
Actually looks pretty fast. Considering all the problem garrett had with atpro seems common with new models.
https://youtu.be/kFTXct_NlnM

and what problem would that be?

DiggerinVA · Apr 15, 2016

vferrari said:
Nice one. Haters gonna hate, I guess. But in all seriousness, I have not found the MXS recovery time to be lacking, but will attempt to run some objective tests against the veberable AT Pro, the detector against which the MXS most often compared. I am no stranger to a detector that exhibits good revovery owning a Deus and F75, but at twice the price of the MXS, I would expect them to out perform the MXS. I haven't found the difference too huge as far as recovery is concerned, however. But without some objective evidence to support our statements, we're both just blowing smoke. I welcome some links to objective test results to support either of our claims. The underlying recovery performance is independent of the tone smearing/locking issue Whites is offering the firmware update for IMO. I don't think I am even going to bother with the upgrade since the issue is practically nonexistant or does not noticeably impact my detecting so far.

I am definately not a hater.....I think the MXT machines are some of the best vlf detectors out there......and the TDI is hard to beat compared to the price of the ATX or GPX machines. But this new machine is not going to be the "legend" that the MXT has become. I expected more from Whites is all......

vferrari · Apr 15, 2016

Digger - I get it. I know you are disappointed that Whites did not deliver a legend and I certainly do not think it is in the TDI, MXT lengend class. The "Haters" comment was meant in jest in response to your turnaround time zinger (which I DID find funny). So we are on the same page there. I got the MXS to do a specific job (foul weather hunting) so as not to risk my higher end hardware and prefer the set up and balance to my AT Pro. For it to be THAT unit for me, poor recovery is not an option, and like I said, I have not found the recovery to be poor. So I am ONLY countering the "poor recovery" comment you keep putting out there based on MY first hand usage. I ran some surface tests with 4 different targets (coins and junk) spaced less than 3 inches apart (of varying distances) with the elliptical coil and pinged every one of them. Could not really get the lock-in tone issue with that coil either as hard as I tried. So recovery in trashy or congested areas seemed fine to me. If you found it to be lacking in recovery based on you first hand experience, I would love to try to repeat your results and post what I found. It is definitely not impressing me as a legend detector but that does not mean it is unacceptable either. I find it hard to make the credible leap from "not a legend" to "seriously flawed" which seems to be how it is being characterized. Thanks.

That being said, I did have more success with my Deus than with my MXS on a recent VA relic outing, my first real life test of the MXS. Perhaps because I have more run time on the Deus, perhaps because I did not put the MXS coil on a target, perhaps because the Deus is signficantly better than the MXS, or perhaps the MXS is flawed in some way. Hard to tell at this point. I liked the MXS interface (I can actually read it without squinting unlike the AT PRO) and relic program, it did detect dropped relic test targets both on the surface and in holes and I did find as much iron with it as I did with the Deus (lol) but I do not have enough run time on it to make a final conclusion. Just trying to be as objective as possible. I am not a fanboy of any detector brand, like I've said before, I have various brands of detectors. I think I am liking the Deus more and more, but this thread is about the Whites and I will render a final decision on it after several more outings.

DiggerinVA · Apr 15, 2016

Do me a favor and put a pair of nails about 1 inch either side of a dime and see how slow of swing speed it takes to "hit" the dime.....

vferrari · Apr 15, 2016

You got it. I'll report back when I have some results from MXS, AT Pro. Tek Omega, and F75 in FA mode.

dirtscratcher · Apr 15, 2016

DiggerinVA said:
I am definately not a hater.....I think the MXT machines are some of the best vlf detectors out there......and the TDI is hard to beat compared to the price of the ATX or GPX machines. But this new machine is not going to be the "legend" that the MXT has become. I expected more from Whites is all......

If your not just being a hater, you must have already put some time on one. It's pretty easy to figure your game out.

DiggerinVA · Apr 15, 2016

dirtscratcher said:
If your not just being a hater, you must have already put some time on one. It's pretty easy to figure your game out.

ummm....ok.

Rawhide · Apr 15, 2016

A upgrade is a upgrade and waiting really blows. I am seeing some really great finds and that is what counts. I dont own the MX, but find it exciting. I could care less about air test other than just making sure I havent lost any depth and the machine is working. But air test can not ever match actual digs. I have talked to a guy who sold his mxt and he was very unhappy.