My Dowsing Test

=Carl-NCOf course I can dowse! It's quite easy, just not very useful. - Carl
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OOPS ! ABSOLOUTELY NOTHING MORE NEEDS TO BE SAID sorry jean, xu,af cappy trips etc., etc.

Tropical Tramp
 

=af1733 link= . Carl was referring to the fact that some posters were misspelling the names of the scientists who executed the experiments they were posting.
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YEAH? which experments and whch expermenters are we talking about?

Tropical Tramp
 

[=SWR link=I believe Carl can dowse just as good...and have the same results as someone claiming to be a seasoned dowser, with years of experience.
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I won't argue with that, but he did flatly state that " he could dowse and that it was easy " . Of course he will now squirm like the witnesses that have been caught in perjury and will attempt to explain that this wasn't what he meant unfortunately it is in plain sight for all to see.

Tropical Tramp
 

=SWR I believe Carl can dowse just as good...and have the same results as someone claiming to be a seasoned dowser, with years of experience.
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Quote Carl ."Of course I can dowse! It's quite easy, just not very useful.'

Tropical Tramp
 

RealdeTayopa said:
I won't argue with that, but he did flatly state that " he could dowse and that it was easy " . Of course he will now squirm like the witnesses that have been caught in perjury and will attempt to explain that this wasn't what he meant unfortunately it is in plain sight for all to see.

No, I said what I meant to say. I can dowse, and can do so easily. In fact, I dowse all the time, every time I misplace a tool. I just don't use a dowsing device, and I don't normally call it dowsing. But I am successful in locating my tools, nearly 100% of the time.

- Carl
 

carl .
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[[/quote]]You admit that you can not Dowse....So how can you know that the RODS behave the same

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Of course I can dowse! It's quite easy, just not very useful. - Carl

Tropical Tramp
 

Dell Winders said:
Carl, this is a revelation you claiming you can actually Dowse, though apparently without success. If that is so than it is obvious you can't dowse. Claiming you are doing something,and not doing it is Pretending.

What effect would a generator have on Mental dowsing?? If you are relying on the generator, or any other physical device, for Dowsing ability then that is NOT DOWSING.

Are facts confusing you?

"THE DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE IS NEVER OPEN TO A CLOSED, OR PREJUDICED MIND" Dell

Dell, you appear to be the only one that is grossly confused. Or are you purposely clouding the waters for some ulterior motive? Dowsing is dowsing. Always has been. There really are no different kinds of dowsing. If there is a generator involved or if there is not, it makes no difference to your own ideomotor response.

I think we both know why you'd like there to be a distinction, and it's not because there are really two kinds of dowsing.

If you want there to be two or more types of dowsing; please just go ahead and explain a real-life demonstration (we can all perform and observe), whereby the two or more types are clearly delineated. Until you can do that, I think we will all be stuck with just the one kind. Sorry. ;D

Jean
 

carl
carl .
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[[/quote]]You admit that you can not Dowse....So how can you know that the RODS behave the same

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There are many ways to dowse from nothing to mechanical or elaborate deign, all of which are merely used as visual physical aids, some only use their hands but it stll is a viual aid.

Tropical Tramp
 

No, I said what I meant to say. I can dowse, and can do so easily. In fact, I dowse all the time, every time I misplace a tool. I just don't use a dowsing device, and I don't normally call it dowsing. But I am successful in locating my tools, nearly 100% of the time.

Hey Carl....It's called what ever works for you. As long as your methods work for you there is no need to prove anything to anyone....Art
 

ho hum

carlauthor=Carl-NC link=topic=28701.msg466040#msg466040 date=1168463099]
[[/quote]]You admit that you can not Dowse....So how can you know that the RODS behave the same

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Of course I can dowse! It's quite easy, just not very useful. - Carl


Tropicl Tramp
 

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These are some of those "Found them, but didn't dig them up" targets we hear so much about ;)
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"Sceptics bible" when unable to answer intelligibly, counter with a silly remark / challenge, whether pertinent to the issue related or not is unimportant, just attempt to put your opponent on the defensive.

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"Operational definitions are inherently difficult — arguably, even impossible — to apply to mental entities, because these latter are generally understood to be accessible only to the individual who experiences them and are therefore not independently verifiable."
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Tropical Tramp
 

"Sceptics bible" when unable to answer intelligibly, counter with a silly remark / challenge, whether pertinent to the issue related or not is unimportant, just attempt to put your opponent on the defensive.

Yes Realde....I will except the challenge and answer the Question...SWR, af1733, Capt forgot his name and the clone Jean
 

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[=RealdeTayopa] From the sceptics bible--.
when unable to answer intelligibly, counter with a silly remark / challenge, whether pertinent to the issue related or not is unimportant, just attempt to put your opponent on the defensive.
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WHOOMP !! There it is !
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Ya got it teach, congrats
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Tropical Tramp
 

Greetings,

This has been an interesting thread! Dang, $25,000 smackers for that test, heck I would sure try it, win or lose! I was taught never to gamble more money than you can afford to lose, you sure must either have loads of money or be supremely confident that the test will fail. What if the person doing the dowsing is just lucky enough to hit? Would that prove dowsing works, or not? This is a real problem with testing dowsing or any sort of intuitive finding methods - how is it possible to utterly rule out the pure chance element? ???

I am a neophyte where dowsing is concerned, never tried it with things of value, only water lines and electric lines, which seems to work very well. My problem is how on earth do you differentiate between a "hit" (rods crossing) over a water pipe, versus over a buried electric cable or a vein of gold? In my own (very limited) experience, I get the rods crossing in the identical way for both electric lines and water pipes. So, if the eggs were placed out on a field which just happened to have a power line buried in it, or a spring of water, I would sure get "hits" on the wrong things! How can you tell the difference? ??? If there is a sure-fire way, I will be happy to take that test for $25k!!! However if in losing I would have to PAY that amount, it will have to be on the time-payment plan! :D ;D

Oroblanco
 

Oroblanco said:
Greetings,

This has been an interesting thread! Dang, $25,000 smackers for that test, heck I would sure try it, win or lose! I was taught never to gamble more money than you can afford to lose, you sure must either have loads of money or be supremely confident that the test will fail. What if the person doing the dowsing is just lucky enough to hit? Would that prove dowsing works, or not? This is a real problem with testing dowsing or any sort of intuitive finding methods - how is it possible to utterly rule out the pure chance element? ???

I am a neophyte where dowsing is concerned, never tried it with things of value, only water lines and electric lines, which seems to work very well. My problem is how on earth do you differentiate between a "hit" (rods crossing) over a water pipe, versus over a buried electric cable or a vein of gold? In my own (very limited) experience, I get the rods crossing in the identical way for both electric lines and water pipes. So, if the eggs were placed out on a field which just happened to have a power line buried in it, or a spring of water, I would sure get "hits" on the wrong things! How can you tell the difference? ??? If there is a sure-fire way, I will be happy to take that test for $25k!!! However if in losing I would have to PAY that amount, it will have to be on the time-payment plan! :D ;D

Oroblanco

All good questions; and there are some good answers for most of them. I'll let Carl expound on the test parameters (since it's his money).

Far as how you tell the difference between hits on power lines and hits on a gold target. I think that would be up to the dowser involved and his/her particular system. One thing I'm pretty sure would be allowed is for you to check the area first for any outside influence or other signals from targets you don't want. Then, you could either mark those problem areas or maybe move to a location that was free of the disturbances. That's just a guess, but it would seem reasonable.... ;)

Jean
 

Oroblanco said:
So, if the eggs were placed out on a field which just happened to have a power line buried in it, or a spring of water, I would sure get "hits" on the wrong things! How can you tell the difference?

You can pre-scan and determine where any anomalies might be. The test can be set up to avoid them.

- Carl
 

HI ROOM
isn't it about time to discuss Dowsing rationally and try to suggest ways to improve it instead of just mocking, ridiculing it and some of it's posters.etc ?

Even Carl, one of the most devoted attackers, has admitted to dowsing, so since there is no longer a question of it's existence, why don't we start on ways to improve it.

As to how it works , that is outside of any of our individual expertise, so put that aside, and discuss dowsing rationally

Tropical Tramp
 

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