My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669* New pics.New camera!

[Silver Searcher]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

This is what he told me yesterday.To put in coke,or orange juice.He did say that it was not his field though and continued on with the other.I still have not heard back from none of them. I'm not going to do no more with it.Ive cleaned it as best I can shown in the last pics.And don't see nothing wrong with it changing.Because in the last pic if you can see I put a lite brushing of 3&1 house hold oil on it.And right away absorbed the extra up by rubing with cloth litely.I have done this with other things seems find to my eyes.The pics. I thought are good but got a say holding it in your hand to me it's in great condition for something that old made of what it's made of and found the way I find my stuff.
Timekiller!

Do not put that Token in coke, it will strip it right back

No it will be fine after a harsh scrub with wire wool

Doesn't hitting it with the hammer come before the wool?

Dam it I missed a step, what he said..

Michael my detecting buddy, once took a dremel to a Anglo Saxon sceat, much better than a hammer and wire wool

Is that true

Very True shaun

 

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[timekiller]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

Thanks for the info guy's,that did a good job taken the patina off she is a beaut. now.

 

[shaun7]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

Thanks for the info guy's,that did a good job taken the patina off she is a beaut. now.

You had me going for a moment there

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

Thanks for the info guy's,that did a good job taken the patina off she is a beaut. now.

I bet it made you feel better hitting that penny, saying 'bad penny go away'. lol

 

[timekiller]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

Thanks for the info guy's,that did a good job taken the patina off she is a beaut. now.

I bet it made you feel better hitting that penny, say 'bad penny go away'. lol

Figured if I can't make banner then I'll make jokes!

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

Thanks for the info guy's,that did a good job taken the patina off she is a beaut. now.

I bet it made you feel better hitting that penny, say 'bad penny go away'. lol

Figured if I can't make banner then I'll make jokes!

I don't think its against the rules to make jokes & the banner. Unless your joke is you brought the token from ebay

 

[{Sentinel}]

Re: My Oldest Coin Yet!!!!!!

Can you make out the letters, I have a book on these & could get a full ID.

Looks like:

HIS
PENNY
(in middle, strange, I only seen halfpenny & farthings)

IN 1669 (= the place name)

Otherside shows a wool rack or something?? With the Owners Name? What letter & spaces do you see?

Front side has IN* DEED around edge * S,in middle says His PENNY II,On Back I see AMBL-I*2omBENOS I think.

Thanks,Timekiller

http://www.ncdot.org/doh/preconstruct/pe/ohe/archaeology/edenhouse/print/ambler.html

Read the story!

GOT IT!

AMBROSE AMBLER 1d 1669 Tobacco-Roll pipes

£85 in book, makes it pretty rare!

Cool, I grew up vacationing down on the Chowan river....not very far from where I live Nice find

 

[arizonaames]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

Fantastic find! What was the VDI

 

[timekiller]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

Thanks for the info guy's,that did a good job taken the patina off she is a beaut. now.

I bet it made you feel better hitting that penny, say 'bad penny go away'. lol

Figured if I can't make banner then I'll make jokes!

I don't think its against the rules to make jokes & the banner. Unless your joke is you brought the token from ebay

I can assure you that the only bay this came from is a bay of water.

 

[RPG]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

Thanks for the info guy's,that did a good job taken the patina off she is a beaut. now.

I bet it made you feel better hitting that penny, saying 'bad penny go away'. lol

I knew it was a penny all along. I saw the Lincoln Memorial on the first pic.

Nice job cleaning it.

 

[timekiller]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

Tell ya guys been a six day natural high for me now.Starting to get a little .went to wally world the other night checked blood pressure it was through the roof.All ready stays high anyway puffin cigs like a freight train.I've always heared treasure hunters who find something don't live long after.I can see that.Completely drive a person crazy!
Beware Timekiller!

 

[jrsherman]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

Timekiller, I certainly have no understanding why this is not on the banner. This is one of the neatest and most interesting American soil finds I've seen, let alone to be that early AND a TOKEN from ENGLAND! That's one of those that you have to ask the question: "Exactly how many of these could there POSSIBLY be on our side of the pond?"

Simply a terrific find with an amazingly incredible story. You have my bow and my banner vote Sir! I wish you the best of luck on that site!!

Josh Sherman

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

Timekiller, I certainly have no understanding why this is not on the banner. This is one of the neatest and most interesting American soil finds I've seen, let alone to be that early AND a TOKEN from ENGLAND! That's one of those that you have to ask the question: "Exactly how many of these could there POSSIBLY be on our side of the pond?"

Simply a terrific find with an amazingly incredible story. You have my bow and my banner vote Sir! I wish you the best of luck on that site!!

Josh Sherman

Well said.

If there are 10 (max.) in the whole US I would be surprised.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

Timekiller, I certainly have no understanding why this is not on the banner. This is one of the neatest and most interesting American soil finds I've seen, let alone to be that early AND a TOKEN from ENGLAND! That's one of those that you have to ask the question: "Exactly how many of these could there POSSIBLY be on our side of the pond?"

Simply a terrific find with an amazingly incredible story. You have my bow and my banner vote Sir! I wish you the best of luck on that site!!

Josh Sherman

Well said.

If there are 10 (max.) in the whole US I would be surprised.

10? I'd guess there's the two or three found in NC and that's it!

I've hunted many mid. 18th century to maybe 1820s sites and I can tell you that you sure don't get many, if any, finds that predate the site by many years. Coins would be the most common from circulation, but not usually relics and tokens. I'm not sure I'm making much of a point here, but I'm just trying to say oddball very old finds show up in VERY low numbers, and that token is definitely not something anyone would expect in North America. It's like that 1300s Edward silver penny from here, something we never imagined turning up, and am pretty sure we'll never see again.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

Timekiller, I certainly have no understanding why this is not on the banner. This is one of the neatest and most interesting American soil finds I've seen, let alone to be that early AND a TOKEN from ENGLAND! That's one of those that you have to ask the question: "Exactly how many of these could there POSSIBLY be on our side of the pond?"

Simply a terrific find with an amazingly incredible story. You have my bow and my banner vote Sir! I wish you the best of luck on that site!!

Josh Sherman

Well said.

If there are 10 (max.) in the whole US I would be surprised.

10? I'd guess there's the two or three found in NC and that's it!

I've hunted many mid. 18th century to maybe 1820s sites and I can tell you that you sure don't get many, if any, finds that predate the site by many years. Coins would be the most common from circulation, but not usually relics and tokens. I'm not sure I'm making much of a point here, but I'm just trying to say oddball very old finds show up in VERY low numbers, and that token is definitely not something anyone would expect in North America. It's like that 1300s Edward silver penny from here, something we never imagined turning up, and am pretty sure we'll never see again.

10 max. I don't think that many either, but always best round up a bit on these rare ones because there could easily be undiscovered ones. The model in the UK for extremely rare coins is for every 1 recorded 9 are not. So its possible a couple of others have been found, its all guess work anyway. Better not to over egg it & be conservative, but I do understand that those very well might be it.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

Timekiller, I certainly have no understanding why this is not on the banner. This is one of the neatest and most interesting American soil finds I've seen, let alone to be that early AND a TOKEN from ENGLAND! That's one of those that you have to ask the question: "Exactly how many of these could there POSSIBLY be on our side of the pond?"

Simply a terrific find with an amazingly incredible story. You have my bow and my banner vote Sir! I wish you the best of luck on that site!!

Josh Sherman

Well said.

If there are 10 (max.) in the whole US I would be surprised.

10? I'd guess there's the two or three found in NC and that's it!

I've hunted many mid. 18th century to maybe 1820s sites and I can tell you that you sure don't get many, if any, finds that predate the site by many years. Coins would be the most common from circulation, but not usually relics and tokens. I'm not sure I'm making much of a point here, but I'm just trying to say oddball very old finds show up in VERY low numbers, and that token is definitely not something anyone would expect in North America. It's like that 1300s Edward silver penny from here, something we never imagined turning up, and am pretty sure we'll never see again.

10 max. I don't think that many either, but always best round up a bit on these rare ones because there could easily be undiscovered ones. The model in the UK for extremely rare coins is for every 1 recorded 9 are not. So its possible a couple of others have been found, its all guess work anyway. Better not to over egg it & be conservative, but I do understand that those very well might be it.

Funny, quite a few years back I bought some stuff and had three tokens mixed in. I didn't think anything of them, and was about to just mix them in a lot like I had purchased to let them go, but then I thought even a few bucks would be worth it so sold the three and ended up with about $100. That certainly opened my eyes to what the little devils can be worth. The best of the best must be worth at least a few grand or maybe more, but I have never seen an Ebay one sell for more than maybe $600 USD. Being there is so many there must be some super rare and highly collectible ones.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

Timekiller, I certainly have no understanding why this is not on the banner. This is one of the neatest and most interesting American soil finds I've seen, let alone to be that early AND a TOKEN from ENGLAND! That's one of those that you have to ask the question: "Exactly how many of these could there POSSIBLY be on our side of the pond?"

Simply a terrific find with an amazingly incredible story. You have my bow and my banner vote Sir! I wish you the best of luck on that site!!

Josh Sherman

Well said.

If there are 10 (max.) in the whole US I would be surprised.

10? I'd guess there's the two or three found in NC and that's it!

I've hunted many mid. 18th century to maybe 1820s sites and I can tell you that you sure don't get many, if any, finds that predate the site by many years. Coins would be the most common from circulation, but not usually relics and tokens. I'm not sure I'm making much of a point here, but I'm just trying to say oddball very old finds show up in VERY low numbers, and that token is definitely not something anyone would expect in North America. It's like that 1300s Edward silver penny from here, something we never imagined turning up, and am pretty sure we'll never see again.

10 max. I don't think that many either, but always best round up a bit on these rare ones because there could easily be undiscovered ones. The model in the UK for extremely rare coins is for every 1 recorded 9 are not. So its possible a couple of others have been found, its all guess work anyway. Better not to over egg it & be conservative, but I do understand that those very well might be it.

Funny, quite a few years back I bought some stuff and had three tokens mixed in. I didn't think anything of them, and was about to just mix them in a lot like I had purchased to let them go, but then I thought even a few bucks would be worth it so sold the three and ended up with about $100. That certainly opened my eyes to what the little devils can be worth. The best of the best must be worth at least a few grand or maybe more, but I have never seen an Ebay one sell for more than maybe $600 USD. Being there is so many there must be some super rare and highly collectible ones.

Yeah, some of the strange shaped ones; hearts & hexagons etc.. It would be rare in the UK for any to top £100 unless it was the best known example.

 

[timekiller]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

Just a idea of the other types of things found from this place and a few other ones.Minus any newer type things you see and five little drawers of metal objects I'm not sure of and of couse all the scrap copper, brass, and lead.All found since january 09.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

Timekiller, I certainly have no understanding why this is not on the banner. This is one of the neatest and most interesting American soil finds I've seen, let alone to be that early AND a TOKEN from ENGLAND! That's one of those that you have to ask the question: "Exactly how many of these could there POSSIBLY be on our side of the pond?"

Simply a terrific find with an amazingly incredible story. You have my bow and my banner vote Sir! I wish you the best of luck on that site!!

Josh Sherman

Well said.

If there are 10 (max.) in the whole US I would be surprised.

10? I'd guess there's the two or three found in NC and that's it!

I've hunted many mid. 18th century to maybe 1820s sites and I can tell you that you sure don't get many, if any, finds that predate the site by many years. Coins would be the most common from circulation, but not usually relics and tokens. I'm not sure I'm making much of a point here, but I'm just trying to say oddball very old finds show up in VERY low numbers, and that token is definitely not something anyone would expect in North America. It's like that 1300s Edward silver penny from here, something we never imagined turning up, and am pretty sure we'll never see again.

10 max. I don't think that many either, but always best round up a bit on these rare ones because there could easily be undiscovered ones. The model in the UK for extremely rare coins is for every 1 recorded 9 are not. So its possible a couple of others have been found, its all guess work anyway. Better not to over egg it & be conservative, but I do understand that those very well might be it.

Funny, quite a few years back I bought some stuff and had three tokens mixed in. I didn't think anything of them, and was about to just mix them in a lot like I had purchased to let them go, but then I thought even a few bucks would be worth it so sold the three and ended up with about $100. That certainly opened my eyes to what the little devils can be worth. The best of the best must be worth at least a few grand or maybe more, but I have never seen an Ebay one sell for more than maybe $600 USD. Being there is so many there must be some super rare and highly collectible ones.

Yeah, some of the strange shaped ones; hearts & hexagons etc.. It would be rare in the UK for any to top £100 unless it was the best known example.

Probably because we don't see the best ones sell. There's gotta be some the collectors would flip over.

 

[jrsherman]

Re: My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669*

HoLy CrAp Timekiller!!!!!! For 9 months of work, that is an amazing fricking set of relics for one place!!!!!!! Not to mention, is that a COB I see in there? Next to that beautiful cut piece?!?!

WOW Again Sir, you have a banner site, let alone just the token!! Well done on finding that one!!!