Mysterious Tin Coin - part of Templar legacy?

vastik · Sep 29, 2009

Please go to my website to view this amazing coin. If you can offer any assistance in identifying its origins, I would be most grateful.

www.mysterycoin.com

Silver Searcher · Sep 30, 2009

johnnyi said:
"vastic....are there any signs of a form of adhesive on the Coin/Token"

S.S., if you look very closely I think you can see it yourself. It is a grey material adhering to parts of the back. There is also discoloration existing on the back, but not the front which may be remains of this cement or adhesive. (We don't even know if the dealer who was describing this relic as a "token" might have cleaned the back to remove "unsightly" cement, and missed a few spots)

Sorry no...I never judge anything from a picture :wink:

I would rather the poster give me the imformation, which I would trust, be to his best knowledge

SS

allen · Sep 30, 2009

definetily not a coin, more than likely a medallion
and from the condition of it, not very old.

CRUSADER · Sep 30, 2009

allen said:
definetily not a coin, more than likely a medallion
and from the condition of it, not very old.

seems to be a growing theme here :icon_thumright:

Silver Searcher · Sep 30, 2009

CRUSADER said:
allen said:

definetily not a coin, more than likely a medallion
and from the condition of it, not very old.

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seems to be a growing theme here

Everybody knows something.
Nobody knows much.
We're all in this together..................PBK 2009

SS

johnnyi · Sep 30, 2009

S.S. "a picture speaks a thousand words" Emperor Xia dynesty 2000 b.c. :wink:

Silver Searcher · Sep 30, 2009

johnnyi said:
S.S. "a picture speaks a thousand words" Emperor Xia dynesty 2000 b.c.

I don't use dots between the SS.

SS...not S.S.

CRUSADER · Sep 30, 2009

Silver Searcher said:
johnnyi said:

S.S. "a picture speaks a thousand words" Emperor Xia dynesty 2000 b.c.

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I don't use dots between the SS.

SS...not S.S.

morse code also speaks a thousand words

Silver Searcher · Sep 30, 2009

CRUSADER said:
Silver Searcher said:

johnnyi said:

S.S. "a picture speaks a thousand words" Emperor Xia dynesty 2000 b.c.

Click to expand...

I don't use dots between the SS.

SS...not S.S.

Click to expand...

morse code also speaks a thousand words

Not to me

johnnyi · Sep 30, 2009

When you look at the back of this thing you can see evidence that it was pried out of its base rather than fell out. If you look at the top of the back you see the small pry mark. Directly under the pry mark are a few small shiny lines of the tool someone used when lifting it out. There is no cement residue in these lines, but there's residue in the base of all the other older scribed lines, with some "hunks" of it still adhering to the three bottom left lines, a little in the top two lines, and possibly more along the left edge which someone couldn't remove. There is no rim on the back either, only a thin lip. There's no way this can be a coin, token, or medal.

Silver Searcher · Sep 30, 2009

johnnyi said:
When you look at the back of this thing you can see evidence that it was pried out of its base rather than fell out. If you look at the top of the back you see the small pry mark. Directly under the pry mark are a few small shiny lines of the tool someone used when lifting it out. There is no cement residue in these lines, but there's residue in the base of all the other older scribed lines, with some "hunks" of it still adhering to the three bottom buttom left lines, a little in the top two lines, and possibly more along the left edge which someone couldn't remove. There is no rim on the back either, only a thin lip. There's no way this can be a coin, token, or medal.

johnnyi · Sep 30, 2009

ss., not quite the "picture that speaks a thousand words" I was thinking of, but good research anyway!

Montana Jim · Sep 30, 2009

Did anyone else watch the associated video posted at the original posted site about the coin?

Anyway... I'm not thinking this is anything as spectacular as the video suggests.

traderoftreasures · Sep 30, 2009

well if nothing else tin's up....

vastik · Oct 11, 2009

I've been looking this piece over and there is definitely no glue residue on it. The dark, seemingly 3D marks you are seeing are part of the patina. I recently came across another tin coin from Europe, and it had the same dark patina. Also, as I was studying the lines in the back just last evening, I noticed that they were not made at random. If I look at the coin sideways, the lines look like the neck of a guitar. There is a specific pattern to it. Could the lines on the back hold a clue to the symbols on the front?
I am still baffled by the origins of this coin/medal. If it was a replica of something, would there not be other similar ones out there? I don't know what to make of it really. There is no evidence of the coin/medal ever having been attached to anything.
I still want to keep searching and trying to find an answer. So please, if you find anything related to this anywhere else, let me know, or post it on this thread.

Thanks everyone for your opinions and interest in this topic.

Silver Searcher · Oct 11, 2009

vastic

do you have a weight for this coin/token :icon_scratch:

and I'm not supprised to find out there was no adhesive on the back ::)

I never thought there was

SS

vastik · Oct 11, 2009

Hi SS,

It is approximately 8 grams.
I have just got hold of the metallurgy reports and I am going to try and post them on the Facebook group "Mystery Coin."
Perhaps I will have time to do this by tomorrow.
If you are a Facebook member, you can join the group to get the info.

Thanks for your interest in this strange item. :icon_sunny:

CRUSADER · Oct 11, 2009

vastik said:
Hi SS,

It is approximately 8 grams.
I have just got hold of the metallurgy reports and I am going to try and post them on the Facebook group "Mystery Coin."
Perhaps I will have time to do this by tomorrow.
If you are a Facebook member, you can join the group to get the info.

Thanks for your interest in this strange item.

why not post them here, this is starting to sound a bit odd, unless your token went on a good night out

vastik · Oct 11, 2009

Hi Crusader,

I didn't know that I could post them here. These are Microsoft Word documents. I thought all I could post was photos on here.
Do you know how I go about posting these documents on here? :help:

Silver Searcher · Oct 11, 2009

vastik said:
Hi SS,

It is approximately 8 grams.
I have just got hold of the metallurgy reports and I am going to try and post them on the Facebook group "Mystery Coin."
Perhaps I will have time to do this by tomorrow.
If you are a Facebook member, you can join the group to get the info.

Thanks for your interest in this strange item.

8 grams sound heavy for tin :icon_scratch:

SS

CRUSADER · Oct 11, 2009

vastik said:
Hi Crusader,

I didn't know that I could post them here. These are Microsoft Word documents. I thought all I could post was photos on here.
Do you know how I go about posting these documents on here?

I'm sure someone more computer literate than me will tell you how to convert them. All I can think of is either scanning them & saving as jpg or take a picture of them :icon_thumright:

PS. I thought you were starting some cult following on facebook :laughing7:

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