Native American Cloth?

[thehunter123]

Hey y’all. Picked up this piece at an estate sale in NC today. It looks nice in the frame and looks like it may be Native American so I decided to take my chances. Can anyone identify what this cloth is or be able to estimate a date for it? Thanks!

 

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[A2coins]

Really cool find That's a good buy you never know I take it the Estate representatives didn't know. Hope you get an ID

 

[Toecutter]

Is there a little string on the back side, native american thong....

 

[Breezie]

From what area did you purchase? There are several Native American tribes in NC, so the location could help in the ID or at least narrow it down to a tribe.
Neat find
Breezie

 

[thehunter123]

Purchased in Catawba Co. I’ll have to take it out of the frame to check the back.

 

[Breezie]

Here ya go:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catawba_people

I'm guessing the strongest possibility would be made by the Catawba Indians.


Breezie

 

[unclemac]

or maybe Hmong

 

[xaos]

I'm guessing the strongest possibility would be made by the Catawba Indians.

Why on Earth would you guess that?


It is worth what you paid for it, hopefully not much.

It is nothing more than a modern piece or embroidery..

dont even consider these hacks that respond, no Native American is going to claim this rubbish.

 

[CaptEsteban]

No idea of the history, if any, of it, but the shape makes me think it is a kerchief.

 

[Samanthy]

Looks like a southwestern design

 

[villagenut]

I think xaos is out of line here.....both breezie and unclemac are very respectable members here who have opinions that most of us respect.....you however don't seem to be of a respectable charactor. jmho

 

[Tony in SC]

I second that!!

I think xaos is out of line here.....both breezie and unclemac are very respectable members here who have opinions that most of us respect.....you however don't seem to be of a respectable charactor. jmho

 

[Wildcat1750]

Can’t help much with the ID but I like it.

 

[Breezie]

Tony & Village,
Thank you for your post in my defense. As you both know, I could eat people like that for breakfast, and still have room for dessert, but I chose to take a higher road this time. Actually, I'm on vacation this week, and arrived at the beach this morning, so I'm not going to let anyone spoil my day.


Breezie

 

[DizzyDigger]

Why on Earth would you guess that?
It is worth what you paid for it, hopefully not much.
It is nothing more than a modern piece or embroidery..
dont even consider these hacks that respond, no Native American
is going to claim this rubbish.

So, you're a Brazilian expert on Native American tribes?

 

[unclemac]

i remember seeing a lot or Hmong needle work that was framed years ago when they first came over after the war.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hmo...4IjlAhVlMH0KHSQsA-wQ_AUIEygC&biw=1522&bih=746

 

[Breezie]

Why on Earth would you guess that?


It is worth what you paid for it, hopefully not much.

It is nothing more than a modern piece or embroidery..

dont even consider these hacks that respond, no Native American Is going to claim this rubbish.

Hello I

xaos​

,
I said I wasn't going to reply to your asinine comment, but I changed my mind. I'm from North Carolina and have lived here all of my life. My g-grandmother is Native American; therefore, I've done considerable research on the Native Americans in North Carolina. I've attached a photo of her (Suzie Hoggkiller/name shorten to Suzie Hogg shown in her Native American ensemble. . . .BUT just because I've done research does not mean I'm any type of authority on NA artifacts . . . BUT common sense tells me if the OP purchased an NA looking item in Cawtaba County, NC, which is home of the Cawtaba Indians, then it would make sense to research the Cawtabas Indians first. DUH!
Your comment about 'no Native American would claim this rubbish' is waaaaay out of line. Any item a TNet members finds/purchases should not be referred to as 'rubbish.' I don't care if someone posted a toothpick, it deserves respect.
My next thought is: Since you listed Brazil as your home, how did you become an expert on NA artifacts to the point you know 'rubbish' since there are literally thousands and thousands of NA pieces?
My final comment to you is: Bless Your Heart! Since you're 'not from around here,' you probably don't know what a Southern 'Bless Your Heart means,' but perhaps since you know so much, my comment doesn't need an explanation
Southern Smiles
Breezie
.

 

[Retired Sarge]

Hello I

xaos​

,
I said I wasn't going to reply to your asinine comment, but I changed my mind. I'm from North Carolina and have lived here all of my life. My g-grandmother is Native American; therefore, I've done considerable research on the Native Americans in North Carolina. I've attached a photo of her (Suzie Hoggkiller/name shorten to Suzie Hogg shown in her Native American ensemble. . . .BUT just because I've done research does not mean I'm any type of authority on NA artifacts . . . BUT common sense tells me if the OP purchased an NA looking item in Cawtaba County, NC, which is home of the Cawtaba Indians, then it would make sense to research the Cawtabas Indians first. DUH!
Your comment about 'no Native American would claim this rubbish' is waaaaay out of line. Any item a TNet members finds/purchases should not be referred to as 'rubbish.' I don't care if someone posted a toothpick, it deserves respect.
My next thought is: Since you listed Brazil as your home, how did you become an expert on NA artifacts to the point you know 'rubbish' since there are literally thousands and thousands of NA pieces?
My final comment to you is: Bless Your Heart! Since you're 'not from around here,' you probably don't know what a Southern 'Bless Your Heart means,' but perhaps since you know so much, my comment doesn't need an explanation
Southern Smiles
Breezie
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[Discrimination Dave]

 

[gunsil]

I do not think the OP item is NA, nor do I think where it was found has anything to do with it's origin, it appears to be quite modern. As for our Brazilian friend, yes he could be more polite but for somebody to say since he is from Brazil negates a possibility that he could be well versed in NA fabric art is preposterous also. My family for years collected molas, a fabric art form from Panamanian native peoples and I have several books on them. Just because I am from NY means I can't know a lot about Panamanian tribal art?