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It can give the dowser another systematic way to focus his intent and organize targets.Dowsing works exactly the same on anything you wish to dowse for. Adding a frequency generator doesn't change the math one iota.
Are you under the impression that the great flood and a boat story is limited to the Middle East? Many cultures have passed down history of a great flood and a boat that saved the animals. It goes Waay back. Maybe the oldest and most widely passed on human story of all time. This “new” info..meh.for me it is just too bad that folk take ancient Jewish myth as literal truth and miss the whole point of "faith". The complexity of life on earth, compared to life...well, ANYWHERE else, is stupefying. And don't get me started about the complexity of the universe!!! The very concept that time next to a black hole equals one minute there to 700 years here is, "say what again"? Gravity bends time?!! Wait, WHAT!? Or how about, the greatest mass in the universe is not stars and planets but it is sub-atomic particles in INTERGALACTIC NOWHERE!!! Science doesn't interrupt faith for me in any way.
good lord no, of course such stories, stories of all sorts of catastrophes in fact, are found in all sorts of writings and oral traditions. But what we are talking about here is finding the actual Noah's ark resting 6,500 feet above sea level on a mountain side.Are you under the impression that the great flood and a boat story is limited to the Middle East? Many cultures have passed down history of a great flood and a boat that saved the animals. It goes Waay back. Maybe the oldest and most widely passed on human story of all time. This “new” info..meh.
Using a signal generator is what I would call "over instrumentation" unless you realize you're using it as a way to focus your own mind.
Question for Grok Expert:
Is there any evidence at all that a frequency generator can form a signal line between itself and any buried golden objects which can then be dowsed using a set of L rods? Does 5250 hz actually resonate with gold? Think hard
Grok's Answer:
**No, there is no credible scientific evidence whatsoever that a frequency generator can form a "signal line" to buried gold objects (or any other metal) that can then be detected/dowsed with L-rods.** This is a specific claim from pseudoscientific treasure-hunting practices involving "long-range locators" (LRLs) or "molecular frequency discrimination" (MFD) devices. It has been repeatedly tested and debunked as no better than chance, relying on the ideomotor effect (unconscious muscle movements that make the rods cross or swing).
### How the Claim Works (According to Its Advocates)
- A frequency generator (often a cheap audio signal generator or commercial LRL unit) is connected to ground probes/stakes.
- It supposedly transmits a specific frequency through the earth.
- When this matches the "molecular frequency" of buried gold, the gold "resonates harder," retransmits/amplifies the signal, and creates a detectable "signal line" or line of force radiating from the generator to the target.
- The operator then walks in circles (or lines) around the generator holding L-rods (or similar dowsing tools). The rods allegedly cross or react when crossing the signal line, pointing toward the gold.
Proponents claim this works at long distances (hundreds of meters or more), even through soil, and is enhanced by dowsing rods (sometimes gold-plated or with sample compartments).
### Why This Has Zero Scientific Basis
- **Dowsing/L-rods fail every rigorous test**: Decades of controlled, double-blind experiments (including by governments and skeptics) show dowsing performs at chance levels. The rod movements are caused by the ideomotor effect—the operator's subconscious expectations guide tiny muscle movements. This applies whether or not a frequency generator is involved.
- **No physics supports "signal lines" or selective resonance**:
- Low-frequency audio signals (like those from these generators) do not propagate selectively through soil to "resonate" only with gold. Ground acts as a lossy medium; signals dissipate quickly without creating directional "lines."
- Real metal detectors use electromagnetic induction (VLF or PI technology) at close range (inches to a few feet). They do **not** create long-range signal lines or rely on dowsing.
- Buried metals do not spontaneously emit detectable EM signatures at distance without strong, targeted excitation—and even then, not in a way L-rods could sense.
- **Commercial LRLs have been exposed**: Many are just repackaged waveform generators with no actual transmission power or selectivity. Oscilloscope tests on some models show they produce no meaningful signal beyond placebo. They are often sold at high prices alongside dowsing rods.
### Does 5250 Hz Actually "Resonate with Gold"?
**No.** This frequency (or close variants like ~5000–5250 Hz) is an arbitrary number circulated in treasure-hunting forums (e.g., Treasurenet) and some LRL marketing. It is sometimes called a "refined gold" frequency, with other numbers assigned to silver, diamonds, etc. Some users claim it works better than alternatives like 222 Hz, but results vary by person/location and are purely anecdotal.
Physically:
- Gold's actual resonances (e.g., phonon vibrations in its crystal lattice or plasmon resonance) are in the terahertz (THz) or optical range—orders of magnitude higher than audio frequencies.
- Any mechanical resonance of a gold object depends on its size, shape, and mounting—not a universal "gold frequency."
- 5250 Hz is simply an audible tone (roughly a high C note). It has no special interaction with gold atoms, molecules, or buried objects.
Here's a question for Grok: "Does dowsing really work?"Question for Grok Expert:
Is there any evidence at all that a frequency generator can form a signal line between itself and any buried golden objects which can then be dowsed using a set of L rods? Does 5250 hz actually resonate with gold? Think hard
I guarantee the answer is what was fed into it.Here's a question for Grok: "Does dowsing really work?"
After I fed my Dowsing info into AI, it includes it in answers..I guarantee the answer is what was fed into it.