Pestle found while metal detecting

[poorman15]

This is my first post here so this is pretty much a trial but I wanted to share this neat find. I was digging a tone from my GTI 2500 and as I pulled my plug, I saw a rock that looked a little on the strange side to just be a rock. Not too much into the know on artifacts but I figured it could be Native American and after having a few people look at it, they tell me I have fould a Pestle. This was located in south central PA. I added a lighter next to it to give an idea of size. Looking forward to any comments

 

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[GatorBoy]

A pestle will look something like this



A celt will look something like this.

 

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[NC field hunter]

Looks kinda like a core sample. Was it found near an old mine by chance? Google core samples, and I think you'll find your answer. I have one around some place. I'll post it if I can find it.

 

[poorman15]

I appeciate the willingness to help me out. I will post what I have this evening and see if you can get what you'd like to see. I was just frustrated last evening after trying to take quality photos with a junk camera. I will post later this evening after work and you can see them if you' d like. I would like as much input from all that know something about Native American Artifacts. Thanks again for your willingness.

 

[poorman15]

NC Field Hunter, This was found at a 1700's home site about a mile away from a creek where many arrow heads and other artifacts have been recovered by others. It's actually in the area of what was called the Great Cove Massacre in PA (Fulton County). There are no mines close by that I am aware of but the Native American History is obvious with other artifacts found close by. Thanks for the input.

 

[NC field hunter]

A pestle will look something like this

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=748413"/>

A celt will look something like this.

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=748414"/>

Gator, remember roller pestles.

 

[NC field hunter]

NC Field Hunter, This was found at a 1700's home site about a mile away from a creek where many arrow heads and other artifacts have been recovered by others. It's actually in the area of what was called the Great Cove Massacre in PA (Fulton County). There are no mines close by that I am aware of but the Native American History is obvious with other artifacts found close by. Thanks for the input.

When you said metal detecting, I thought about the mine. My family owns an old copper mine. I find core samples and artifacts there. Yours could be a roller pestle.

 

[GatorBoy]

Gator, remember roller pestles.

I don't think it's a pestle of any kind. It's flattened on the sides..
Don't think it would be doing much rolling. A roller pestle looks like a rolling pin as far as I know. But what do I know? Just wait for the photos.

 

[rock]

I might be wrong but I am going with Gator on this one. We will have to see the photos. I am thinking maybe a digging tool for roots. Maybe a Celt. But I dont see it being a Pestle as of yet.

 

[Get-the-point]

Ok first Gator read my post. Second guys after reading my post I explained the flat side. Third I cannot wait for those pic's now. You guys and the celt theory are off. Todays lesson please watch the video! Notice the flat sides on this guys examples......

 

[GatorBoy]

Ok first Gator read my post. Second guys after reading my post I explained the flat side. Third I cannot wait for those pic's now. You guys and the celt theory are off. Todays lesson please watch the video! Notice the flat sides on this guys examples...... YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1-drH57nXf0

First nothing... I don't think it's a pestle.. I'm entitled to my opinion. just as you are yours. I didn't call you out when you gave an opinion that was contrary to mine.

 

[rock]

Its ok its like a debate. We wont know till the pics come.

 

[GatorBoy]

Its ok its like a debate. We wont know till the pics come.

LOL.

 

[rock]

I wish my sound would work it looked like a interesting video. I want one of those pestles he was holding.

 

[GatorBoy]

That video was great For someone who doesn't know what a pestle is ... the different forms they may come in... or how they were used. Still don't see a pestle in the photo above.

 

[Get-the-point]

Here is another and be sure to check out those pestles. Look at the picture and you will see how high it is off the table, i'm talking the posters find! Now read my post again. after that check out this video and then revert back to my post and then read it again. Just when you start see the pestle in the posters post go back and read my post again. Lmao!! Man I cannot wait for the pics!! We will see then! The first arrowhead referenced is a Susquehanna broad point, not a brewerton eared point!

 

[GatorBoy]

the stone in the posters photo looks to be a quarter inch thick... if that.... look at all the things you keep asking us to look at.... much thicker... the flat spots on some of them where they were used over and over as wet stones are highly polished where that was done..... look again at what you keep posting.

 

[Get-the-point]

the stone in the posters photo looks to be a quarter inch thick... if that.... look at all the things you keep asking us to look at.... much thicker... the flat spots on some of them where they were used over and over as wet stones are highly polished where that was done..... look again at what you keep posting.

Obviously your dimensional view is skewed, i'm tired of this debate. Those pestles served more purposes then a wetstone! Even the new video shows those flat areas. Not only that you can see the clear contour of the posters piece. The flat spot alone looks to be over a 1/4 of an inch. Look above that and you can see the contour of it.

 

[Get-the-point]

I wish the poster would post those pictures already!

 

[GatorBoy]

Yeah.. we will know then... I just want to be clear..
It's not like I'm going to be excited if it is a Celt.. or a pestle. I just wanted to help ID it for him. Personally I wouldn't want to have to process grain with a squared off pestle.. and it doesn't look alot like a Celt either .. it just looks like it would work better as one.

 

[Charl]

Here is a flat pestle/metate. In the first photo, you can see plow scars, but the ground down grey areas around those scars in the center represent usage wear, because the piece is ever-so-slightly bowed. But, a look at the end of the piece shows it's usage wear as a pestle. Made of a sandstone cobble, can still see pecking, very crude. An old timer told me years ago they used to call them sandal-sole pestles.