Question about overlap and sweep

[chemist100]

Hey everyone!! Got a quick question: Yesterday whenn I was out, I noticed that I was not getting a full arc on my swing. I'm right handed and the right side was fine, but when I would swing across to the left side I was not getting the same distance. Has anyone else noticed this happening to them? I hope I explained that so everyone understands. I'm just wondering if there is a way to correct this and still be able to overlap.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

I'm just wondering if there is a way to correct this and still be able to overlap.

Move a half-step to your left.

The sweep is centered on your right elbow . . . not the center of your chest. (Less symmetrical for some well fed detectorists I have observed and probably body builders would have similar "clearance" issues for a clean sweep). Best way to find your "groove" is to go out some morning with dew on the grass and look back over where you have passed. You can see the rows.

 

[Sandman]

Your sweep should be even with the ground the whole sweep and advance it by about half the coil dia. and sweep back the other way. As Charlie P explained your center is on your right arm. You don't have any trouble driving down the road while staying in your lane and think of the route down the sand the same way. Many newbies swing the detector like a pendulum an it is only near the ground right in front them.

 

[Woodland Detectors]

I told you guys it's all in the way you hold your mouth.


That's the trick.

 

[rmptr]

Not to worry about what you miss over on one side or the other...
Catch it on the next pass.
A consistent overlapped sweep with the coil kept parallel to the surface will surely help, especially on smaller or deeper targets.

Good luck to you
rmptr

 

[GibH]

I have found that changing your stride helps..

I kinda LEAN to the right and step out more with the left leg..

Does THAT make sense?

It's hard to DESCRIBE...

It's just a jump to the left

And then a step to the right.......

 

[Iron Patch]

Anyone who is concerned with this is actually missing more targets by not understanding the importance of angles. Just so you know. 8)

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Anyone who is concerned with this is actually missing more targets by not understanding the importance of angles. Just so you know. 8)

That's the truth!

 

[cavador del oro]

Am I understanding all this right? What youse guys are saying is...

Put your right foot in...pull your right foot out...and shake it all about?

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

That's what it's all about.

(And lets do the time-warp again to GibH )

Another thing "overlap" misimplies is, with a concentric coil, your field is shaped like half-a football held nose down; so to overlap at 6 or 8" depth you'd have to move the coil ahead only a few inches at a time on the surface. THAT's why someone can detect right behind you and pull coins out of your ars. . . backtrail.

My practice is to sweep fast but move less than a coil diameter ahead at a time (even with DD coils).

 

[Ahab]

If you see foot prints behind you. you are going too fast in my opinion.
you should see two lines made from your feet continuously shuffling forward after each swing.
that's what i got told where i worked.
I am a newbee to treasurehunting and we were more concerned about not missing targets than covering a lot of ground.

Some math savvy guy would probably tell you to do it a lot faster, if you knew you would never come back to that particular place.
To clarify: overlapping means you are also scanning a small portion of the ground you allready covered and thus you are losing "productivity".

When I was detecting i looked like i was walking with stiff legs wobbling from side to side as i moved forward sloowly.
My personal plan to "clear" an area in the least amount of time is: Do one cube of the area fairly slowly and then approach the same cube in a 90 degree angle at the same speed.
this is not finding EVERYthing in the area but covering a large amount of ground thoroughly in a decent amount of time in my opinion.

hope it makes sense and remember i am not a pro at treasure hunting. So take it for what it is worth.
HH
(IP would you please elaborate on angles please, i am here to learn )

 

[Iron Patch]

(IP would you please elaborate on angles please, i am here to learn )

Being so concerned about overlapping tends to mean the person grids a section one way, then maybe switches direction and hits it from the other way. A lot of people think that gets almost all the targets and don't realize (will vary per site) how many would come in from other angles. When I first get to a site, like most others I tend to walk back and forth over the hot spot, but after you're finished there can be lots more to find walking very randomly. Ever see one of those small vacuum cleaners that just bounce off things and clean for you, well that's how I look being all over the place when I swing. Once in a while we find a ploughed field we were beat to, and all the tracks are up and down or running across, and it makes me laugh because I know we still have a decent day ahead.

 

[RPG]

(IP would you please elaborate on angles please, i am here to learn )

Being so concerned about overlapping tends to mean the person grids a section one way, then maybe switches direction and hits it from the other way. A lot of people think that gets almost all the targets and don't realize (will vary per site) how many would come in from other angles. When I first get to a site, like most others I tend to walk back and forth over the hot spot, but after you're finished there can be lots more to find walking very randomly. Ever see one of those small vacuum cleaners that just bounce off things and clean for you, well that's how I look being all over the place when I swing. Once in a while we find a ploughed field we were beat to, and all the tracks are up and down or running across, and it makes me laugh because I know we still have a decent day ahead.

Angles? Angles can be in any direction. I have an old home site across the road from my house that I have been hunting for the last two years. I started out hunting from north to south and east to west. I pretty much cleaned that site out over a year ago. A few months back I got bored and went back out there and just started walking around and swinging. I found a few little insignificant brass and copper pieces and a 1864 indian head penny. I wonder where that came from. Now when I go out there I try different settings on my machine every time and I find something every time that I missed. It's my test spot and seems like every time I change directions, I find something.

Slow and easy. milimeter by milimeter.

 

[Iron Patch]

(IP would you please elaborate on angles please, i am here to learn )

Being so concerned about overlapping tends to mean the person grids a section one way, then maybe switches direction and hits it from the other way. A lot of people think that gets almost all the targets and don't realize (will vary per site) how many would come in from other angles. When I first get to a site, like most others I tend to walk back and forth over the hot spot, but after you're finished there can be lots more to find walking very randomly. Ever see one of those small vacuum cleaners that just bounce off things and clean for you, well that's how I look being all over the place when I swing. Once in a while we find a ploughed field we were beat to, and all the tracks are up and down or running across, and it makes me laugh because I know we still have a decent day ahead.

Angles? Angles can be in any direction. I have an old home site across the road from my house that I have been hunting for the last two years. I started out hunting from north to south and east to west. I pretty much cleaned that site out over a year ago. A few months back I got bored and went back out there and just started walking around and swinging. I found a few little insignificant brass and copper pieces and a 1864 indian head penny. I wonder where that came from. Now when I go out there I try different settings on my machine every time and I find something every time that I missed. It's my test spot and seems like every time I change directions, I find something.

Slow and easy. milimeter by milimeter.

Now you're gettin it!

 

[RPG]

(IP would you please elaborate on angles please, i am here to learn )

Being so concerned about overlapping tends to mean the person grids a section one way, then maybe switches direction and hits it from the other way. A lot of people think that gets almost all the targets and don't realize (will vary per site) how many would come in from other angles. When I first get to a site, like most others I tend to walk back and forth over the hot spot, but after you're finished there can be lots more to find walking very randomly. Ever see one of those small vacuum cleaners that just bounce off things and clean for you, well that's how I look being all over the place when I swing. Once in a while we find a ploughed field we were beat to, and all the tracks are up and down or running across, and it makes me laugh because I know we still have a decent day ahead.

Angles? Angles can be in any direction. I have an old home site across the road from my house that I have been hunting for the last two years. I started out hunting from north to south and east to west. I pretty much cleaned that site out over a year ago. A few months back I got bored and went back out there and just started walking around and swinging. I found a few little insignificant brass and copper pieces and a 1864 indian head penny. I wonder where that came from. Now when I go out there I try different settings on my machine every time and I find something every time that I missed. It's my test spot and seems like every time I change directions, I find something.

Slow and easy. milimeter by milimeter.

Now you're gettin it!

Sometimes I read a post and think to myself, I sure would like to hunt that place since he's finished with it.

 

[Iron Patch]

(IP would you please elaborate on angles please, i am here to learn )

Being so concerned about overlapping tends to mean the person grids a section one way, then maybe switches direction and hits it from the other way. A lot of people think that gets almost all the targets and don't realize (will vary per site) how many would come in from other angles. When I first get to a site, like most others I tend to walk back and forth over the hot spot, but after you're finished there can be lots more to find walking very randomly. Ever see one of those small vacuum cleaners that just bounce off things and clean for you, well that's how I look being all over the place when I swing. Once in a while we find a ploughed field we were beat to, and all the tracks are up and down or running across, and it makes me laugh because I know we still have a decent day ahead.

Angles? Angles can be in any direction. I have an old home site across the road from my house that I have been hunting for the last two years. I started out hunting from north to south and east to west. I pretty much cleaned that site out over a year ago. A few months back I got bored and went back out there and just started walking around and swinging. I found a few little insignificant brass and copper pieces and a 1864 indian head penny. I wonder where that came from. Now when I go out there I try different settings on my machine every time and I find something every time that I missed. It's my test spot and seems like every time I change directions, I find something.

Slow and easy. milimeter by milimeter.

Now you're gettin it!

Sometimes I read a post and think to myself, I sure would like to hunt that place since he's finished with it.

All our better sites we only get finished with if it's someone else making the decision we can't go. After 10 years we have so many sites that get ploughed every 1-3 years it's like a huge detecting circuit. Then add in all the new spots we find and there's almost always a good place to dig. Also, when you're first to a site and pound it good, it's like buying the rights because most people will not stay at a spot that's been hit. So only you will know just how good it was, and will have that spot to yourself for good.

 

[Ahab]

Thanks a lot IP for the explanation.
So the agreement so far is slow and easy. North/south then west/east. ½ bottle jack D to get the perfect random stumble and then get back again when its wet and/or ploughed. gotcha . wonder if it would be better detecting with a hangover due to the added sound sensitivity of your ears
(this is mostly just making fun, dont take it too seriously apart from the "thanks IP")

 

[Iron Patch]

Thanks a lot IP for the explanation.
So the agreement so far is slow and easy. North/south then west/east. ½ bottle jack D to get the perfect random stumble and then get back again when its wet and/or ploughed. gotcha . wonder if it would be better detecting with a hangover due to the added sound sensitivity of your ears
(this is mostly just making fun, dont take it too seriously apart from the "thanks IP")

No making fun, that's it! ...and repeat if necessary.

 

[Ahab]

Thanks a lot IP for the explanation.
So the agreement so far is slow and easy. North/south then west/east. ½ bottle jack D to get the perfect random stumble and then get back again when its wet and/or ploughed. gotcha . wonder if it would be better detecting with a hangover due to the added sound sensitivity of your ears
(this is mostly just making fun, dont take it too seriously apart from the "thanks IP")

No making fun, that's it! ...and repeat if necessary.

I already wrote south/north and east/west in an earlier post. So the only thing i was contributing with was accepting your point about angels fogged by annoying smilies and wisecracks about Bourbon and hangovers. Hence the disclaimer and now the explanation. I think i should stop now.