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My first job offer was from Mel Fisher... I knew him and his wife and crew.

Absolutely those bars should have been returned to circulation via these coins... What else are you going to do with hundreds of them ?

The best bars ... and bars that had exceptional historical value have been safe kept..

Ditto........the bars allotted for replicas had no legible marks. Tom we call those bars pigs. To realize best value they were melted and made into replica coins. They would never melt somthung like the chalice. Thats just absurd. I have sat and discussed it with the salvor who recovered it. They are not foolish men. Tom I respect you imenslly for your skills.......I just dont agree with you on this one......I love you man !!!!
 
Oh ship.......interpol just shut us down !!! Lol !!!
 
Think I'll buy a few of these "fake" coins for friends for Christmas gifts:tongue3:
 
AARC etal,

Being a quiet person by nature.....lol. For what it's worth I've had a few heated discussion over the years with archeologists, etc....

Let's just say it's a known for a fact that probably 90% of archeological finds or donated ones for that matter never see the light of day in museums or otherwise.

They're stashed away in basements, warehouses, etc....also many get sold quietly to collectors legally or otherwise to raise funds and unfortunately a large proportion of those artifacts are not even properly documented, preserved or stored.

So yes in a perfect world they should be kept intact as is for the pleasure and sharing with the public who are in the end footing the bill for the archeological community but sadly that is not the case.

I'll get off my soapbox now and have another sip of my home made beer....lol....:laughing7::laughing7::laughing7:


IF archeologists had found Atocha... NO ONE would have ever been able to cherish any of it... EXCEPT THEM.

No one would even been able to touch one single coin... Instead... people from all over the earth now own and share the story to all who show an interest in what hangs from their necks.
 
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Tom what it boils down to is that RTR is proud to have a piece of the atocha at an affordable price. Like many others !! He got that as a gift for fathers day and you stole the wind from his sails. Its a beautiful piece that I would also be proud to own !! So I choose to congratulate him on a gorgeous piece of history !! Happy fathers day RTR !!! Congrats on a great gift.
 
AARC etal,

Being a quiet person by nature.....lol. For what it's worth I've had a few heated discussion over the years with archeologists, etc....

Let's just say it's a known for a fact that probably 90% of archeological finds or donated ones for that matter never see the light of day in museums or otherwise.

They're stashed away in basements, warehouses, etc....also many get sold quietly to collectors legally or otherwise to raise funds and unfortunately a large proportion of those artifacts are not even properly documented, preserved or stored.

So yes in a perfect world they should be kept intact as is for the pleasure and sharing with the public who are in the end footing the bill for the archeological community but sadly that is not the case.

I'll get off my soapbox now and have another sip of my home made beer....lol....:laughing7::laughing7::laughing7:

They go here......

 
Tom what it boils down to is that RTR is proud to have a piece of the atocha at an affordable price. Like many others !! He got that as a gift for fathers day and you stole the wind from his sails. Its a beautiful piece that I would also be proud to own !! So I choose to congratulate him on a gorgeous piece of history !! Happy fathers day RTR !!! Congrats on a great gift.

I think what the world needs is more treasure hunters who...Find the treasure..then let it rot right where it is ...Or maybe find the treasure and do nothing with it.SO others can find it and enjoy it :)
 
Ditto........the bars allotted for replicas had no legible marks. Tom we call those bars pigs. To realize best value they were melted and made into replica coins. They would never melt somthung like the chalice. Thats just absurd. I have sat and discussed it with the salvor who recovered it. They are not foolish men. Tom I respect you imenslly for your skills.......I just dont agree with you on this one......I love you man !!!!

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May you are right buddy. But honestly, it suggests they don´t are at all.

Love you too Buddy !!!! :headbang:
 
We will spend the fortune on rum and women of ill repute !!! Whos with me. Arrrrgggghhhhh !!!!
 
Tom what it boils down to is that RTR is proud to have a piece of the atocha at an affordable price. Like many others !! He got that as a gift for fathers day and you stole the wind from his sails. Its a beautiful piece that I would also be proud to own !! So I choose to congratulate him on a gorgeous piece of history !! Happy fathers day RTR !!! Congrats on a great gift.

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Understand! Also I have no problem at all RTR bought one.

But cut a bar into a 1000 pieces and sell them as they are, would may be a way I could understand :laughing7: :laughing7: May I would buy such a piece, cut from the outside of the bar too !! :laughing7:

THAT would be a nicer way to own an original piece of atocha history :icon_thumright:
 
Hey, whats happen to our "junior" ??

Gold Boy wasn´t here for some days now.
 
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Hes on a vacation to colorado tom. He will be back soon im sure.
 
No mate, just trying to figure out still what is going on.
 
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