Religious medallion or button.

[Garabaldi]

Any ideas. It seems like its plated, so don't thinks its as old as the date on it. What do you think?

 

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[IronSpike]

Sweet button and great ID

 

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[Silver Searcher]

It's a button.
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-buttons-4-reproduction-french-1791

"Each of the 4 buttons measure 1" in diameter. They are a reproduction of a Louis XVI 1791 coin. This would have been the back of the coin. The button reads "SIT NOMEN DOMINI BENEDICTUM 1791" (Blessed be the name of the Lord), circle with three crosses surmounted by large crown, bracketed by wreaths. Metal, one piece construction."

Great ID Dano

SS

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Great ID Dano and great lead IronPatch.

 

[Iron Patch]

It's a button.
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-buttons-4-reproduction-french-1791

"Each of the 4 buttons measure 1" in diameter. They are a reproduction of a Louis XVI 1791 coin. This would have been the back of the coin. The button reads "SIT NOMEN DOMINI BENEDICTUM 1791" (Blessed be the name of the Lord), circle with three crosses surmounted by large crown, bracketed by wreaths. Metal, one piece construction."

Yep, that's proof they exist, I just haven't seen them. But the one above if 38mm is quite a bit larger than an inch. No doubt the same thing though.

 

[Dano Sverige]

Thanks guys..my 2nd ID in a week! Getting a little light headed. Can i claim a "Honourable mention" badge now for beating IP to a button ID? Lol,j/k. I touched lucky on the search,happy to help.

 

[Iron Patch]

Thanks guys..my 2nd ID in a week! Getting a little light headed. Can i claim a "Honourable mention" badge now for beating IP to a button ID? Lol,j/k. I touched lucky on the search,happy to help.

Well you can but I didn't turn on the Google. Hearing it was 38mm, and remembering him saying it didn't quite feel like a coin it pretty much sealed it for me as a button. There would be no mistaken a silver Ecu. (bigger than an 8 reale)

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

There are those of us here like IronSpike that are seasoned veteran metal detectorists and bring their first hand knowlege of finds to the table. Then there are others that are great googlists or have a library of books.. Some of us bring knowlege from our trades, such as working as a locksmith or demolition of old buildings.. Others like myself gather knowlege from all places, collecting since a child, buying and selling antiques and, in the past 5 years, researching online as a hobby. I didnt even know how to use a computer when I first joined to post a find. I dont make many good finds anymore but Ive found the internet to be a tremendous tool. Its the combination as a whole that works well here in TN's What Is It forum.

 

[Garabaldi]

Great job Dano and Iron Patch. How old do you guys think this button is?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Great job Dano and Iron Patch. How old do you guys think this button is?

Its no older than 1791.

I googled a bit but couldnt find anything more about them.

 

[Garabaldi]

Great job Dano and Iron Patch. How old do you guys think this button is?

Its no older than 1791.

I googled a bit but couldnt find anything more about them.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I guess I didnt look hard enough. Heres another one on eBay but no information. It does show a picture of the back that may help date it..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-bronz...emQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item439a7acff1

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The iron shank must have been inserted into the molten brass casting.
Heres some info on these buttons:

http://www.daacs.org/aboutDatabase/pdf/cataloging/Buttons.pdf


Molten metal was poured into a button mold and allowed to harden. The button would have characteristic mold seams most likely on the back of the button and possibly the eye. Some buttons had cast eyes (with mold marks) and others were cast with an iron or brass wire shank placed into the mold. Hinks (1988:60) notes that most cast buttons from the early 18th century are pewter, but by the mid-18th century large numbers of cast brass and copper (i.e. copper alloy) buttons were produced.

 

[Dano Sverige]

There are those of us here like IronSpike that are seasoned veteran metal detectorists and bring their first hand knowlege of finds to the table. Then there are others that are great googlists or have a library of books.. Some of us bring knowlege from our trades, such as working as a locksmith or demolition of old buildings.. Others like myself gather knowlege from all places, collecting since a child, buying and selling antiques and, in the past 5 years, researching online as a hobby. I didnt even know how to use a computer when I first joined to post a find. I dont make many good finds anymore but Ive found the internet to be a tremendous tool. Its the combination as a whole that works well here in TN's What Is It forum.

Totally agree!
I bring very little to the table except my ability to google information,but if it's there to be used and it helps or solves a question then thats what counts..right?
In my time here,reading about the amount of strange,weird and wonderful objects found and identified by forum members,and the amount of time and sheer dedication put in (in which you seem to be the master at )it never ceases to leave me amazed.
Like yourself,i find the internet to be a tremendous tool which helps with problems and knowledge.It's something else that always amazes me.You can google anything..Madagaskan tree frog dung...two headed sheep from Chernobyl...Annie Oakleys preference in boots and laces...and someone somewhere will have uploaded an article or pics!!!

Anyhow..i respect the dedication and results from all members here from whichever source,and the fact that nobody ever gets to know how many hours have been spent in researching an item,especially when we fail to find anything.I salute you all!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Totally agree!
I bring very little to the table except my ability to google information,but if it's there to be used and it helps or solves a question then thats what counts..right?

Yes its the end result that counts here. Googling possibly solves more than field experience. And it takes an experienced googlist (word?) to know how to search.

http://www.infochembio.ethz.ch/links/en/zool_kriecht_froesche_laub_ruder.html



No green check G?

 

[Dano Sverige]

Lol..the nets an amazing place BCH,gotta love those Madagaskan tree frogs!!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I want to add that as great a tool as the net has become, you cannot throw away your books just yet. Gore's internet has a lot of mistakes and its hard to beat a great reference book.

 

[jdsarasin8194]

Im still wondering why the little hole is there, its on every example that I see of the same piece

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Im still wondering why the little hole is there, its on every example that I see of the same piece

I am wondering about that myself. Its some kind of mold mark and I hope someone can explain it to us. I have observed the same dimple on an old pewter button and on old lead drapery/coat weights. The casting process that produces this little hole may help date it.

 

[Garabaldi]

I was wondering the same thing.

 

[167irishboy]

What would a real "SIT NOMEN DOMINI BENEDICTUM 1791" button be worth?