Season 5

[skybolt]

Here is a pic of the jewel found and where it actually came from ... Ricky Restall's cowboy gun set View attachment 1553949View attachment 1553950

What are the chances that piece of fake jewelry will get tested? Instead, they'll fly in 3 or 4 supposed experts to make wild speculations about it. Get ready for the Sumerian connection.

 

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[n2mini]

Here is a thought on their depth and where they think they should be at to find certain things. Over the years with the Money Pit area being dug up and filled in plus all the leveling work the Brothers had to do to be able to have the Holes drilled and then even more leveling and clearing done to be able to bring in the 6' Caisson drilling machine in, there is no way they truely know what depth their at without a good margin of error. That could be as much as 10'-15' or so at this point and maybe more.. I'd think they have been trying to keep up with that from their starting point 5 years ago but how far off was it already at that point...

 

[G.A.P.metal]

Is that the Bobbiedazzler ?

 

[skybolt]

It's interesting how Gary will skip some metal readings because he thinks it's scrap, but then hones in other pieces that are clearly scrap (the door key hole thing for example) but look interesting. He even said this is scrap when he first looked at at. I'm having a hard time trying to understand how he can tell the difference between a nail, spoon, coin or door hinge. It's clearly obvious that the metal pieces are found off camera by either Gary himself or other staffers metal detecting behind the scenes. Gary then turns on his machine and ignores any other metal readings until he gets to the predetermined spot.

 

[civil_war22]

This is why I don’t believe anything I see on tv. They suspend for ratings and viewers. What takes them guys a few weeks last a while season. My personal opinion is Gary is a half *+\ showman who if he actually knew what he was doing would be looking at washed out areas and some places people haven’t been plugging around looking for the last 100 years, plus the fact they can’t seem to realize that most treasures found are in the places you least expect. I know and everyone else knows it doesn’t take this long to figure out that with teeth on the drilling bit if they aren’t properly tightened or attached they will break off, and if one tooth goes bad and you’re on hard surface you’re gonna break more off. This whole chapel vault idea and the breaking teeth thing pisses me off because I know as well as most there is deep rock down there and like here in Arkansas you may have a long ways to go before you hit some sort of hard rock or even a shelf of rock.. I just don’t buy it

 

[n2mini]

Probably true. No one wants to film a guy for hours and he not find something. He probably does go detecting and when he finds something of interest they come film it. Only makes business sense from their end...

 

[b3y0nd3r]

I have about had it. My patience is wearing so thin. This is not rocket science. This is digging a hole. Drain or freeze the water, get the dirt out of there and be done. It would of been so much cheaper than farting around like this.

lets dig and find out what is really there. come in from an angle instead of straight down.

 

[Raparee]

I see you are throwing your thoughts in here? Do you have actual proof the cross is a fake? No, I do not believe you do.

If the cross were historically significant in any way, it would be in a museum in Halifax right now, and not in the Lagina's possession.

 

[civil_war22]

If the cross were historically significant in any way, it would be in a museum in Halifax right now, and not in the Lagina's possession.

My thoughts exactly. If the historical society or even the local university believed any historical significance was there they’d be combing through every bucket of material brought up to the surface. To them there is just not enough factual proof

 

[skybolt]

My thoughts exactly. If the historical society or even the local university believed any historical significance was there they’d be combing through every bucket of material brought up to the surface. To them there is just not enough factual proof

Not only that, but the archaeologist didn't even seem impressed with the cross. He mentioned something about the discoloration not being right for something supposedly this old, and that was the last we saw of him.

 

[Stretch Da Truth]

Not only that, but the archaeologist didn't even seem impressed with the cross. He mentioned something about the discoloration not being right for something supposedly this old, and that was the last we saw of him.

Spot on! What you don't agree Off with your head!

 

[civil_war22]

Not only that, but the archaeologist didn't even seem impressed with the cross. He mentioned something about the discoloration not being right for something supposedly this old, and that was the last we saw of him.

Probably got booted cause lack of interest and wouldn’t boost ratings with an archeologists not agreeing with the shows agenda. I mean yeah it looks old and probably is old but how many people in the last 100-150 have made stuff on their own and lost it? I can think of at least 3 things I’ve made and lost it and god only knows what someone is gonna think in 50 years if they find it.

 

[Stretch Da Truth]

Does anyone else think that this cross was nailed to something?
With the hole on the flat side it would be tough and uncomfortable to wear. Arms would be digging into you all day long.
Especially if you add in the golden rhombuses.

 

[civil_war22]

Does anyone else think that this cross was nailed to something?
With the hole on the flat side it would be tough and uncomfortable to wear. Arms would be digging into you all day long.
Especially if you add in the golden rhombuses.
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More than likely was nailed to something. I mean yeah it may be possible they used a nail to make a hole for a necklace but even most crude examples of crosses would be more comfortable than that. Maybe an old cross from a rosary or a modern fake

 

[Stretch Da Truth]

More than likely was nailed to something. I mean yeah it may be possible they used a nail to make a hole for a necklace but even most crude examples of crosses would be more comfortable than that. Maybe an old cross from a rosary or a modern fake

It looks way more like it was nailed or attached to something flat verses something worn.
Add in the price tag from the Domme gift shop, the fact Laird got hushed because he didn't agree with the Hundreds and Hunderds of years old estimate and we kinda solved this mystery.

Cant wait to see that "ruby" gem they find next week. Bet we can solve that real fast if it wasn't already a few posts back! LOL

 

[gr88bd]

Does anyone else think that this cross was nailed to something?
With the hole on the flat side it would be tough and uncomfortable to wear. Arms would be digging into you all day long.
Especially if you add in the golden rhombuses.
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I heard a rumor and someone wrote a book about it , it wasn't nailed to something but some one was nailed to it.

 

[gazzahk]

Crosses are not all similar... you have variations and some these variations have "meanings"... For example, we have some crosses that are "inverted" and are related with atheists in XVIII century. You have the crosses from the "Order of Christ" used by Portuguese navigators, that are unique, and identifies the Order that was formed in Portugal by European fugitives and portuguese Templars under the protection of the portuguese King (they change the name from Templars to Order of Christ to escape from Pope and French persecutions).

If you say that all crosses are equal, so you don't know nothing about history...

The carved cross in France it's different because have a "head" on the top, down to the left side, and open arms... It's different from other crosses carved, and if it's different it's because have a meaning (we just don't know the meaning for now).
The cross found on OI, it's different from usual crosses, because have a "head" on the top, down to the left side, and open arms... It's different from other crosses that people carry on past times, and if it's different it's because have a meaning (we just don't know the meaning for now).

This can be a coincidence... or not... If you have 2 special exceptions it's normal to try to relate them (but can be a coincidence anyway)...

NOW, we have another cross, carved in a cave associated with Templars, that have a "head" on the top, down to the left side, and open arms...
AGAIN, This can be a coincidence, or not... the carved cross in Royston it's very similar to the French cross... this is an evidence...

What all of these means? I don't know... But I'm 100% sure that all crosses have a special meaning (probably the same meaning), but this don't mean that all are related.

My opinion (and it's just an opinion) the cross with head means the crucifixion of Christ like it's usual on the churches altars. Christians usually pray in front of these crosses (on them knees)... So I think that these carved crosses are representations of altars (like a diy altar to pray). The OI cross, can represent the same, being like a "portable altar" for explorers that want to pray in places where are no churches)... My "theory" indicates that all crosses have the same meaning (explain why are all similar), but not related...

The best
Ricardo

Fair enough... Good points..

What I was meaning was that I do not think that this particular piece of lead was deliberately shaped like that. It appears to me that someone simply hammered the end flat and then banged a nail through it. In the hammering process the end flattened of centre. This could of been anything. It may have been the pin keeping someone lunch box closed. It may be a part of some other object and is simply coincidently cross shaped.

The fact that they have not had it tested (or have had it tested and not told us) suggests they know it is not that old.

As stated before I do not think it looks much like that carving at all...

 

[gazzahk]

I'm just saying anything like a rail car used to haul dirt away would probably not be strong enough to keep their drill casing from going right thru enough parts of it to tear it up. Along with most anything down there. A piece of steel rail track laying cross ways might do it as with the steel I-beam I mentioned would probably do it.. Most items they would have been using over the years other then those 2 items listed would not be made out of thick solid steel, so they should be able to drill thru it with their huge machine and or bust it up with their heavy hammer thing... Granted maybe someone did have some solid thick piece of steel to use for wall bracing but how the heck did they put them in place... Everyone assumes they each time a search group left they just pushed every tool, furnace, pump, plate etc in the hole but not much metal has been found actually. There has been some but to hear everyone say that you'd think they be finding all kinds of chunks of metal. I say that to say I don't think that most past searchers did that. Any old wood probably was as it probably couldn't be used else where for much of anything... and anything already down a shaft would probably be left of course.. Doesn't appear they just tossed in every old pump, furnace, tool, metal bracing etc... as it hasn't been found like all the wood pieces...

The depth that this obstacle has been found means it must be rubbish from previous searchers and not something from the original pit. This is only 75 feet deep. The original pit was dug much deeper than that...

 

[gazzahk]

Here is a pic of the jewel found and where it actually came from ... Ricky Restall's cowboy gun set View attachment 1553949View attachment 1553950

That is an amazing likeness...

 

[MikeN]

The fact that they have not had it tested (or have had it tested and not told us) suggests they know it is not that old.

I'd say it's equally likely that they wanted to stretch the storyline first by spending part of an episode on the lead-encased-gold theory.