Small buckle w/anchor - Colonial?

ModernMiner · Dec 23, 2008

Hi Folks.
I hunted with Andy, Chris, and Joe last Saturday in a soybean field where there used to be a Colonial house. I didn't find squat, or so I thought. I was cleaning out my pouch tonight and forgot about this little buckle. After a light brushing I noticed not only is it in very nice shape, but it has a small anchor stamped into it.
Any idea what kind of buckle?
Age?
What the anchor symbol means?
Thanks & happy holidays,
MM

Maverick29 · Dec 23, 2008

Nice buckle doug that thing looks cherry. Hope we can find stuff this weekend when we come up. looks like somekind of horse harness buckle but thats not an educated guess.

DD-777 · Dec 23, 2008

You sneaky little... :wink:

Can't believe you forgot about this thing! It's fantastic Doug - looks too small to be horse tack (I think). Possibly an old garter clip?

RELICDUDE07 · Dec 23, 2008

I think its a navy issue.I found one a while back.Lots of old navy buckles .Cool find,i think its from around ww1

ModernMiner · Dec 23, 2008

mave2535 said:
Nice buckle doug that thing looks cherry. Hope we can find stuff this weekend when we come up. looks like somekind of horse harness buckle but thats not an educated guess.

Thanks Chris.
Looking forward to seeing you clowns Saturday. I have three spots we can hit.
-Doug-

Elf Hunter DD-777 said:
You sneaky little...

Can't believe you forgot about this thing! It's fantastic Doug - looks too small to be horse tack (I think). Possibly an old garter clip?

Andy,
After your Colonial KG copper find I was embarrassed to post it. :'(

I'll trade you this buckle & 5 CW bullets for that coin you found. :thumbsup:

-Doug-

RELICDUDE07 said:
I think its a navy issue.I found one a while back.Lots of old navy buckles .Cool find,i think its from around ww1

Thanks RD.
Any idea of the age?
Thanks,
Doug

Don in SJ · Dec 23, 2008

I'm sure someone will know for sure, but I somehow think small anchors are trademarks/hallmarks, and not related to Naval? Think I have one or two also somewhere.

Don

DD-777 · Dec 23, 2008

If you throw in that 9X8 coil - it's a deal... :tongue3:

RELICDUDE07 · Dec 23, 2008

Silver British naval officer's seal from the time of Nelson, dateable to 1794 (London hallmark) Another navy buckle ....

Don in SJ · Dec 23, 2008

Evidently some buckles with small anchors on the backside are trademarks/hallmarks for manufacturer's, here is one for a company (North & Judd) that was in existence starting around 1812 and I believe into the 1960s, their hallmark was a small anchor on buckles, spurs and other items, usually horse related.

I believe that a buckle that has no naval design on the front part that it is neither a military item nor was it even meant to be a patriotic item, just a hallmark of the brass manufacturer.

Don

ModernMiner · Dec 23, 2008

Don in SJ said:
I'm sure someone will know for sure, but I somehow think small anchors are trademarks/hallmarks, and not related to Naval? Think I have one or two also somewhere.

Don

Don,
Thanks for that info. I think you may be onto something there. I found this item pictured out in the horse pasture earlier this year at the plantation house I detect at. It measures 14mm. I think it is a button. :icon_scratch:

-Doug-

RELICDUDE07 · Dec 23, 2008

That is a horse button for sure

Dons right about the hallmarks,i have some silver spoons with anchor marks..

ModernMiner · Dec 23, 2008

Thanks for this info guys. :thumbsup:

Elf Hunter DD-777 said:
If you throw in that 9X8 coil - it's a deal...

How about an 8" stock Tesoro coil? Or I could just add another 1" of modeling clay to one side & we'll call it a 9 x 8. :tongue3:

Deal?

RELICDUDE07 · Dec 23, 2008

Thats a hard one mm,with so many anchors to choose from

.... Someone may find the exact buckle for ya....Keep up the vids .Modern miner here :thumbsup:

ModernMiner · Dec 23, 2008

RELICDUDE07 said:
Thats a hard one mm,with so many anchors to choose from .... Someone may find the exact buckle for ya....Keep up the vids .Modern miner here

So many anchors, so little time.

Thanks RD.
I'll be babysitting Andy, Joe, and Chris this Saturday on my home turf. Wish me luck. :thumbsup:

Happy holidays,
Doug

BioProfessor · Dec 24, 2008

I think there is some confusion here between "Hallmarks" and "Trademarks." Hallmarks are typically on precious metal items and are part of a code used by the manufacturer to describe the item - year made, place made, etc. Trademarks/Makers marks are marks placed on an item to ID the manufacturer. An Anchor on an item is most likely the "trademark" of the manufacturer.

Daryl

Tony in SC · Dec 24, 2008

The Deuber Case Co. used the small anchor as a gold filled hallmark in the 1800's. Tony

Bigcypresshunter · Mar 14, 2010

I think its the North & Judd anchor mark. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php?topic=253592.0

Iron Patch · Mar 15, 2010

If that's Colonial I'll eat it for breakfast tomorrow.

72cheyenne · Mar 15, 2010

bigcypresshunter said:
I think its the North & Judd anchor mark. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php?topic=253592.0

I'm with BCH that it is made by North & Judd.
http://www.nbim.org/index2.asp
http://images.lib.uconn.edu/cdm-cho/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/cho&CISOPTR=311&CISOBOX=1&REC=6

ivan salis · Mar 15, 2010

brass goods having brass maker "trade mark" anchor design is not surprizing --many sea going items were made of brass -- due to its corrision resistance (salt water & sea air are murder on iron) so often a lot of the brass makers work was sea related items .