strange pile of rocks

[fossis]

I just stumbled across this picture I took last summer of this odd tree, this pine tree is in the same area as the other pictures Ive posted. as you can see its bent over and twisted three times, from the back side where the bark is cracked I can see that its actually twisted and not just three growths. Anybody care to guess if it means anything or not?

Not to discourage anyone, but I find these type trees in
my area quite often, vines grow around, & into the tree, often
killing them, I make hand-crafted hiking sticks from the smaller
ones.

Fossis.................

 

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[becket]

Anyone else see the rabbit in reply #234? It is midway up the left side of the red square. Also, a FLIR that detects heat could possibly find the vent(s) by the temperature difference near the top of the vent rock, as opposed to the rock right around the hole cooled by the chillier air. A directional thermometer could pinpoint if you get in the right area, and use it during the heat of the day, looking for cooler temps near the ground. Gotta be right on it though, within just twenty feet. But the vents could be covered with vegetation or whatever and you could be walking right over them, just some poorly thought out thoughts, straw grasping, etc ....

 

[CarolinaDigs]

Kinda quite around here so I guess Ill post another picture. This picture is of a rock that looks like a bird to me, as usual this is in the same area as all the other pictures Ive posted. This is not a very good picture cause I wasn't taking a picture of the "bird" I was taking a picture of something else and I found this in the picture at a latter date, So I haven't been able to go see the rock in person yet ,and this is the only picture I have of it. From what Ive read the bird would mean that the trail turns. So does it look like a bird, and what would it really mean if it is?

The sitting bird rock is great > but I am fasinated with the large group of rocks > They look like arms and hands reaching up > some I see a face > Amazing formations

 

[Old Dog]

Any one heard from TLH?
Hope he is ok the search was close
Hope he didn't find boobies that he wasn't aware of.

OD

 

[TLH]

I'm back,Old Dog the boobies didn't get me yet, Ive just been

busy with other projects that couldn't wait.

Fossis I'm not discouraged--- yet. Ive seen your hiking sticks over on My Daily Snapshots, they look

great, like works of art. I use a hiking stick myself,even made it myself, and it looks just like ----a stick.

becket thanks for the response. I'm going to check the pictures for the rabbit. the FLIR idea is a good

one, but those puppy's are spendy, maybe I could borrow one.

CarolinaDigs nice to see you over here, no Hummingbird pictures from me over here, just rocks. If

you can see a face, outline it for me if you can, I'm always interested in a new face.



I tried to scan the old po-boy mine near my house but my

Magic box went south on me. I couldn't see the tunnel under my

feet in the scan and the scan looked kinda funny, so I walked

back home and scanned the culvert in my driveway again and

couldn't see that either. looks like it has a problem, maybe

it needs an oil change or something, so its on its way back

to OKM in Germany for a tuneup. Auf Wiedersehen Magic box.

After spending some quality time in the field with the magic box I can see that it has some serious

limitations for what I need it to do. Every scan has to be done in a grid pattern, like 10 steps ahead,then

one step to the left,turn around and take 10 steps back to where you started,that is what it takes to do

one scan. This grid stuff is fairly easy in my yard but its difficult and laborious in the field,I think it would

work pretty well if you had narrowed down your search area to lets say 1000 sq. feet, then you could

spend a day measuring out a huge grid and scanning it, and I believe the magic box would tell you if

something was down there or not. But for me I haven't narrowed down anything, I want to be able to

cover a large area quickly and know for sure if theres a tunnel under my feet.

Ive come to the conclusion that WHAT the magic box does will help me find a tunnel, but HOW it

does it is to time consuming. So I'm looking for another magic box that sees what my magic box sees

but does it without laying out a grid, in other words, you walk wherever you want, and it scans the

ground under your feet and shows it on a screen on the move,and you can keep walking and scanning

until you find a tunnel or walk off a cliff which ever comes first.

There actually is a gadget that does just what I want,at least its supposed to.I'm talking with the people

now and thinking of going and playing with it to see for myself. If anyone is interested Ill post the

information.

 

[Old Dog]

TLH,

Thanks for at least letting us (or me) LOL), Know what is happening. Some of us have watched this from the beginning and feel as if we are right there with you. We want as much as you for your success.

OK, enough scolding from an old man you don't know LOL.
An idea my own mentor would suggest...
Get a 6 ft long brass or steel rod 1/2 inch dia.and a fluffy feather.
Probe with the rod and heck for air movement with the feather.
How unscientific, I Know .

But sometimes old school works even better than the new stuff.
And cheaper too.

Good to hear from you.
OD

 

[djui5]

Good idea OD!!

 

[woodpecker]

TLH

You mentioned earlier in your comments you :"" Ive spent some time out at my "Treasure site" lately, and have come

to the conclusion that there's a few spots that I should dig"":

have you got any pictures of the possible sites you should dig ?, then the forum guys might be able to advise you which might be the best to dig , rather than sugestions on gadgets,

woodpecker

 

[TLH]

Old Dog I think thats a good idea to. I know that caves and tunnels will inhale and exhale depending on the barometric pressure, and a hanging feather would be a good way of catching a tunnel breathing. Also becket's idea of using a FLIR might work, it should be able to spot a plume of warm or cool air coming from a tunnel.

The possible problem is that from what I understand, the Spanish would take the time and effort to seal all entrances and air vents to the tunnel before they left for the season. I don't know if thats true or not, someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but if it is, there would be no air movement in or out.

Your Mentor sounds like a man with a lot of common sense.

 

[TLH]

I just spotted your post woodpecker, hang on and Ill find some pictures.

 

[TLH]

Woodpecker sorry It takes me so long to respond but I'm still trying to catch up with all of the things I

should have done during the Winter.


I think when I said "spots" to dig, that was an unfortunate chose of a word, what I should have said

was" area" to dig. I wish I was knowledgeable enough to home in on a "spot", but the best I can do is an

"area".


So here's a couple of pictures of two areas I would like to know more about, especially what they

looked like underground, total amount of land in both places would be about 3 or 4 acres. That much

area would take a very long time to accurately scan with my Magic box [if it was working] and thats why

I'm now trying to get more information on how to improve my ability to cover more ground in a

scan.When I saw what my magic box could do, I knew that was the technology I was looking for, but it

just needs be faster and mobetta.


The first two pictures are marked up, the second two are clean. The turtle in the circle is the one in

Reply #205.

 

[Old Dog]

is the tail of the turtle bent in such a fashion that you would be inclined to follow the tail? or are there marks of the back of the turtle with indicators telling you to go in that direction?

The turtle is a good directional indicator but I was always made to understand the turtle's head was the indicator if the legs and tail were in a natural position.....

Just asking . Curiosity is my motive, nothing more....

OD

 

[TLH]

Old Dog Thanks for your interest. The tail of the turtle is pointed to the side not straight. There are

odd rocks on the back of the turtle that may be pointers.There are no legs on the turtle , my

understanding is that this means the turtle has stopped walking cause he is at or very near the treasure.

I could be wrong on all of this, thats why I'm looking for input and ideas.

 

[TLH]

I have always been suspicions of a pirate treasure at my site, and after finding this huge carving on a

mountain I think you may be right.

 

[Old Dog]

TLH,
I apologise for not respomding sooner.

I will PM

OD

 

[TLH]

Well I'm gonna go to Oregon and look at the "Underground Surveyor Apparatus" that Accurate Locators Inc. sells, Ive talked to

them on the phone and their 'USA' gadget sounds like what I'm looking for. They tell me that I wont need to lay out a grid to locate

a tunnel,I can walk as fast as I want and the gadget will show me whats under my feet on a computer carried in a chest pack that I

wear.

I know that all that sounds to good to be true, and that may be the case, thats why I'm willing to drive all the way to Oregon to

actually get some hands on experience and learn how to use this thing and see for myself what it will or wont really do.

I will be heading up to Oregon early in August to play with this gadget, so if anyone has any first hand knowledge of Accurate

Locators or their "USA" gadget I would really appreciate your advise.

 

[Old Dog]

Hope you have a safe trip.
Keep us ep to date

OD

 

[woodpecker]

HI TLH

Have you looked closely around the area you pictured for extra markers , as normaly a X for example will mark the spot , in direction of turtles tail or possible hand pointing , you could well be a looking for a pin in a haystack unless you can positivly identify extra markers have a good look around ,

atb

woodpecker

 

[Old Dog]

Always a good idea to have a good fix on a location.
Scour the area below the tail for all signs prior to using that new fangled thingy.

The closer to the given, the less the chance of failure.

OD

 

[TLH]

Thanks woodpecker and Old Dog for the great advise, I have done a lot of looking, in fact Ive been hunting this site for eight years,

not every day of course, but whenever good weather and my free time coincide you will find me walking the hills, my camera on

one side and my Glock on the other, taking pictures of anything that doesn't move. But I just don't feel like I'm getting anywhere.

I think that one of two things could be happening. First, maybe this isn't a real Spanish mine site, that would certainly explain why I

haven't found anything. Or second, it could be that Ive found all of the easy signs, and all thats left are the hidden signs that tell how

to find the mine.

From what Ive read these signs can be very hard to find and their meanings hard to discern. But even if I do find more

signs, I'm not sure how thats gonna help me, cause few people even agree on what a sign means. Look at all the people on this and

other treasure forums that have found signs, It seems to me the signs they find are trail signs on the path to get to the mine

area,and not to the mine itself. I believe that I'm already in the area of the mine , this belief is based on the concentration of signs

in such a small area, and the fact that I'm really in a placer mining area from the old days. So I wish I had more information on how

to find the mine when your already close.Information like that is hard to come by. I know about the triangles and adding the distance

together and stuff like that, but thats all Ive read about, and my triangle rocks could be buried under a foot of pine needles by now.

I guess thats why Ive got such high hopes that technology will save my butt and help me outwit the Spanish, cause right now in the

battle of wits, I'm an unarmed man. In one of Kenworthys books he talks about searching for

treasure on the land and in the ocean and says, and I quote."Searchers in the ocean have had no choice,they must use state of the

art equipment. Land searchers for treasure usually try to poor boy the search, and wind up paying triple the cost over time, and end

up empty handed." Thats starting to make a lot of sense to me now.