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This video will make you think about what has happened in life and where we as people are going if left uncontrolled !
The End Of Critical Thinking?
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This video will make you think about what has happened in life and where we as people are going if left uncontrolled !
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Adolph Hitler exploited this phenomenon;
Sociologists have studied how one person speaking to a crowd of "listeners", listening to a charismatic leader can direct them (the masses) into conforming to believable diabolical behavior. Institutions, religion among them, function on control by "conformity".
It happens in society without a single voice driving the masses. It is a subtle, collective overpowering voice that drives the masses.
There is a compelling unseen yet overpowering voice today, that is driving AI:
There's nothing inherently "wrong" with AI at the moment. However nefarious evil powers could possibly drive AI (noting AI has no moral compass or understanding of "good and evil" in a humanitarian system) to modify behavior in a direction driven by a deliberate motive!
I would cite the crusades, mega-churches, and others that are on the surface, well intended, however "self serving" entities. The food industry is another "self serving" entity - driven by and driving market forces.
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Sociologists have studied how one person speaking to a crowd of "listeners", listening to a charismatic leader can direct them (the masses) into conforming to believable diabolical behavior. Institutions, religion among them, function on control by "conformity".
It happens in society without a single voice driving the masses. It is a subtle, collective overpowering voice that drives the masses.
There is a compelling unseen yet overpowering voice today, that is driving AI:
There's nothing inherently "wrong" with AI at the moment. However nefarious evil powers could possibly drive AI (noting AI has no moral compass or understanding of "good and evil" in a humanitarian system) to modify behavior in a direction driven by a deliberate motive!
I would cite the crusades, mega-churches, and others that are on the surface, well intended, however "self serving" entities. The food industry is another "self serving" entity - driven by and driving market forces.
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Benjamin Franklin controlled the press!
In the beginning of our democracy, Benjamin Franklin understood the power of "speaking" to the masses with "news and propaganda". He controlled the press in Philadelphia!
Benjamin Franklin won the Revolutionary war single-handedly by sailing to France and getting the French on our side against the British. "He said, "My enemies enemy is my friend"!
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In the beginning of our democracy, Benjamin Franklin understood the power of "speaking" to the masses with "news and propaganda". He controlled the press in Philadelphia!
Benjamin Franklin won the Revolutionary war single-handedly by sailing to France and getting the French on our side against the British. "He said, "My enemies enemy is my friend"!
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Another paragraph hater. F the period.
Please remember we do not have grammar police here.....
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Chapter one: Language
I you can't use basic sentence and paragraph structure in a reply to a critical thinking thread, then don't even bother, Well, there you have it!
I you can't use basic sentence and paragraph structure in a reply to a critical thinking thread, then don't even bother, Well, there you have it!
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You do not tell any member not to post, only a moderator or admin can tell a member not to post.
i will do you one better....
Chapter Two....Warnings
2nd Warning, We DO NOT HAVE GRAMMAR POLICE ON Treasurenet......
(Hope this one is clear, I want give a 3rd warning..)
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Leading by example, a second warning shows suspended judgement;
"The essence of critical thinking is suspended judgment, combined with active inquiry to understand a problem before rushing to a solution.
John Dewey’s View
• Suspended Judgment: In his 1910 book How We Think, philosopher John Dewey defined the core of critical thinking as a deliberate pause or delay in decision-making.
• Inquiry First: Instead of relying on fast, default instincts or unexamined guesses, you pause to investigate the true nature of the problem.
• Tested Proof: This pause turns a quick guess into a well-tested, proven conclusion.
Why Judgment Matters
• Weighing Criteria: Critical thinking means making reasoned judgments using clear evidence, logic, and appropriate standards rather than raw emotion.
• Checking Sources: It requires you to judge the credibility of sources, recognize unstated assumptions, and spot logical flaws.
• Resisting Bias: It helps you step back, look at multiple angles, and overcome personal or social prejudices.
Well done, Sir!
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"The essence of critical thinking is suspended judgment, combined with active inquiry to understand a problem before rushing to a solution.
John Dewey’s View
• Suspended Judgment: In his 1910 book How We Think, philosopher John Dewey defined the core of critical thinking as a deliberate pause or delay in decision-making.
• Inquiry First: Instead of relying on fast, default instincts or unexamined guesses, you pause to investigate the true nature of the problem.
• Tested Proof: This pause turns a quick guess into a well-tested, proven conclusion.
Why Judgment Matters
• Weighing Criteria: Critical thinking means making reasoned judgments using clear evidence, logic, and appropriate standards rather than raw emotion.
• Checking Sources: It requires you to judge the credibility of sources, recognize unstated assumptions, and spot logical flaws.
• Resisting Bias: It helps you step back, look at multiple angles, and overcome personal or social prejudices.
Well done, Sir!
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General George Patton;
For anyone wanting another example of "Suspended Judgement", look no further than General George Patton!
In every situation, when the General should have said, "Get a rope!", he instead suspended judgement.
YouTube has too many examples to list. Check 'em out.
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For anyone wanting another example of "Suspended Judgement", look no further than General George Patton!
In every situation, when the General should have said, "Get a rope!", he instead suspended judgement.
YouTube has too many examples to list. Check 'em out.
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The AI response;
In keeping with the fact that AI is a "robust search engine" and not a "conscious thinker", let us look at the AI response to the query of "Examples of famous persons known to use Suspended Judgement".
The response:
"Suspended judgment is the practice of pausing your immediate conclusions or biases to actively seek out more evidence before making a final decision. As pioneering educator John Dewey famously noted, "The essence of critical thinking is suspended judgment; the essence of this suspense is inquiry to determine the nature of the problem before proceeding."
Many of history’s most renowned leaders, scientists, and philosophers relied on suspended judgment to break past conventional dogmas and make transformative discoveries.
1. Charles Darwin (The Origin of Species)
When Charles Darwin formulated his theories on natural selection, he knew they would clash with the deeply entrenched religious and scientific beliefs of Victorian society. Instead of rushing to publish, Darwin suspended judgment on his own conclusions for nearly 20 years. He used this prolonged period of inquiry to relentlessly collect evidence, cross-examine data, and anticipate counter-arguments, ensuring his final thesis was nearly bulletproof when unveiled.
2. Bertrand Russell (Philosophical Skepticism)
The 20th-century logician and philosopher Bertrand Russell strongly advocated against the dangers of premature certainty. He famously advised that individuals should "not to feel absolutely certain of anything." Russell practiced what he preached by treating political and social viewpoints as hypotheses rather than fundamental dogmas, maintaining an intellectual stance where assumptions could always be re-evaluated as new information arose.
3. Albert Einstein (Challenging Classical Physics)
Albert Einstein revolutionized physics precisely because he was able to suspend judgment regarding the absolute nature of time and space—concepts that classical Newtonian physics took completely for granted. By stepping away from these rigid assumptions and letting mathematical evidence guide his thinking, he developed the Theory of General Relativity.
4. Abraham Lincoln (The Team of Rivals)
In political leadership, Abraham Lincoln demonstrated extreme cognitive flexibility. Rather than making snap decisions based on personal biases or political alignments, he populated his cabinet with his harshest political critics—a strategy famously dubbed his "Team of Rivals." Lincoln regularly suspended his own initial impulses, choosing instead to thoroughly weigh conflicting perspectives, deliberate over evidence, and plan multiple steps ahead before acting.
5. Socrates (The Socratic Method)
The foundation of Western philosophy rests on Socrates, who routinely operated from a baseline of suspended judgment. Known for declaring that his wisdom lay in knowing that he knew nothing, he approached intellectual inquiries without predefined conclusions. Through the Socratic Method, he used structured, open-ended questioning to expose flaws in common assumptions and let the truth emerge organically."
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In keeping with the fact that AI is a "robust search engine" and not a "conscious thinker", let us look at the AI response to the query of "Examples of famous persons known to use Suspended Judgement".
The response:
"Suspended judgment is the practice of pausing your immediate conclusions or biases to actively seek out more evidence before making a final decision. As pioneering educator John Dewey famously noted, "The essence of critical thinking is suspended judgment; the essence of this suspense is inquiry to determine the nature of the problem before proceeding."
Many of history’s most renowned leaders, scientists, and philosophers relied on suspended judgment to break past conventional dogmas and make transformative discoveries.
1. Charles Darwin (The Origin of Species)
When Charles Darwin formulated his theories on natural selection, he knew they would clash with the deeply entrenched religious and scientific beliefs of Victorian society. Instead of rushing to publish, Darwin suspended judgment on his own conclusions for nearly 20 years. He used this prolonged period of inquiry to relentlessly collect evidence, cross-examine data, and anticipate counter-arguments, ensuring his final thesis was nearly bulletproof when unveiled.
2. Bertrand Russell (Philosophical Skepticism)
The 20th-century logician and philosopher Bertrand Russell strongly advocated against the dangers of premature certainty. He famously advised that individuals should "not to feel absolutely certain of anything." Russell practiced what he preached by treating political and social viewpoints as hypotheses rather than fundamental dogmas, maintaining an intellectual stance where assumptions could always be re-evaluated as new information arose.
3. Albert Einstein (Challenging Classical Physics)
Albert Einstein revolutionized physics precisely because he was able to suspend judgment regarding the absolute nature of time and space—concepts that classical Newtonian physics took completely for granted. By stepping away from these rigid assumptions and letting mathematical evidence guide his thinking, he developed the Theory of General Relativity.
4. Abraham Lincoln (The Team of Rivals)
In political leadership, Abraham Lincoln demonstrated extreme cognitive flexibility. Rather than making snap decisions based on personal biases or political alignments, he populated his cabinet with his harshest political critics—a strategy famously dubbed his "Team of Rivals." Lincoln regularly suspended his own initial impulses, choosing instead to thoroughly weigh conflicting perspectives, deliberate over evidence, and plan multiple steps ahead before acting.
5. Socrates (The Socratic Method)
The foundation of Western philosophy rests on Socrates, who routinely operated from a baseline of suspended judgment. Known for declaring that his wisdom lay in knowing that he knew nothing, he approached intellectual inquiries without predefined conclusions. Through the Socratic Method, he used structured, open-ended questioning to expose flaws in common assumptions and let the truth emerge organically."
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