the everything site ...?

[Cubfan64]

LOL, where do you guys get this stuff...

BB - I "got it" from this.... "one of the only two deer i have shot and not recoverd ..out of 71 deer i have shot so far .. i can hit from 125 yards".

When you put those words into a single line and don't use the word target anywhere - it's a logical conclusion that you were referring to shooting deer from that distance. Thanks for clearing up the confusion.

 

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[the blindbowman]

Roy,

"I did get into long range archery with a buddy of mine and actually got able to hit a three inch bull at 100 yards with every shot, even doing the "Robin Hood" thing cutting an arrow in two with a follow-on shot, but it was pure luck and really the amount of energy (foot-pounds) in even a heavy arrow at 100 yards is not enough to guarantee a mortal wound on an animal the size of a deer."

I will assume you have not done much bowhunting. Foot-pounds of energy is not what kills an animal in bowhunting. If you are lucky enough to hit your target at 100 yards, most any modern day broadhead will do enough damage/penetration to cause the animal to bleed to death.

At 100 yards, your 3" bullseye will look like a pinhead. At that distance, your point of aim is nowhere near the target. To hit that target "every shot", each arrow must be precisely identical; The release must be precisely identical; The point of aim must be precisely identical, and that point of aim will be a high distance above the target. The wind must not change.......at all. In the end, if you come close to the target, it will require massive amounts of luck.

Bowman is not using a crossbow.

Take care,

Joe

very true Cj , its not the setup that makes a good shot its the tuneing and the skill of the conditioning ..

for one setup can effect how fast and effective a bow reacts . the eye /hand that relates to the target, judgement of the brain to the hunt ..

a fixed target dosent move...often the best shoters remember the basic details ..keeping the bow level and always locking the bow at full draw to the same anchor piont ..

and i am sorry i dont agree , the size of the presons kills have nothing to do with the skill of the shoter ..

if you care more about what others think then you may not agree with me ..

i watch a bowman shot a Grizilly with a long bow on TV , that was worth watching ...

i have shot a long bow a long time ago .. and i do like the long bow ..

i have been working on high speed compounds for some time now and know the speeds of the modern compounds are beyond the avg needs of most hunters ...

i like the effectiveness of the fast quite bows . i have shot about 35 diffrent name brans,...and i have had the fastest bow in the county in the past ..the Black Egale Ondia speacal order 80 lbs ... i was setting up that bow when the rest broke ... the rest was made of white metal and could not take the vibration of this high speed bow ,

i can say from frist hand wisdom what happends when things go wrong ..

you hear about but you never beleive it really happends .. it dose ...


the Ondia was not at fault ...it was out right my own fault !

a cheap arrow rest almost took my life in 3/10 of a second with my 15 year old son beside me ...

you can collect all the pionts and racks you want . i will never hunt for that reason ..i cant eat them and i dont really care how may pionts they have or what they score ...

that dose not make a great bowman ..

i know frist hand what makes a great bowman ..

someone that loves the art so much even blindness can not take it out of his blood and 5 years to recover , but at one piont i had a back drop 10 ft by 10ft and i stood there shakeing unable to even hold the bow without shakeing and i close my eyes and shot till i could not hold the bow any more , my hands were bleeding & blistard . i shot well over thousand time none stop ,all after noon and into the dark , i destoryed over 200 arrows that day ...

every time i pickup a bow ,i look it over as if my life depended on it ...because i know it dose .. i learn that the hard way !

and i am out right deadly with a bow..!

some years i dont even gun hunt . i use my bow all season ...

a great bowman trys to pass on the wisdom he has learned threw the years to help others in the hope their path will not face the pains his has ..

 

[pronghorn]

And yet a man with all your abilities, shape shifting, remote viewing, a shaman
able to find lost civilizations, find proof of atlantis, montezumas tomb, chicomoztoc,
and the place settings from the last supper in a cave in the desert mountains thousands of miles from your home, can't find a deer shot basically in your back
yard

 

[the blindbowman]

LOL, where do you guys get this stuff...

BB - I "got it" from this.... "one of the only two deer i have shot and not recoverd ..out of 71 deer i have shot so far .. i can hit from 125 yards".

When you put those words into a single line and don't use the word target anywhere - it's a logical conclusion that you were referring to shooting deer from that distance. Thanks for clearing up the confusion.

the doe i shot from 75 yards was feeding on the other side of a small pond on the edge of a hay feild on a nice fall sunny day and was not stressed . i was 30ft up in a tree stand and she never knew i was there . i was shoting a screaming egale onidia bow at 70lbs with a 80% let off . this lets the bowman hold the shot untill the right time to release the arrow .. i held for more then 2 mintues to judge this deers actions after watching her for more then 10 mintues feeding ..

my bow was setup for long yardish shots at the time ...
would i take a shot like this now .. good question , each deer hunt is diffrent and most likely ,not ... as ome else stated a white paper plate is a good scale we can all relate to ..
i can hit a paper plate 10 for 10 from 70 yards out, with a bow setup for this distence & fine tuned by me .. ..it took me 3 days to tune the bow i am useing now ...

and yes most people dont shot more then 30ft at avg..

if you feel you can make a shot, is not the same as haveing controll over shot placement ..

 

[the blindbowman]

And yet a man with all your abilities, shape shifting, remote viewing, a shaman
able to find lost civilizations, find proof of atlantis, montezumas tomb, chicomoztoc,
and the place settings from the last supper in a cave in the desert mountains thousands of miles from your home, can't find a deer shot basically in your back
yard

lets see you track one in a havey rain in a swamp, if you think you can i would like to see that ..lol

 

[pronghorn]

why didn't you shape shift into a wolf and follow it,
or into an eagle and find it from the sky after the rain quit,
or remote view it

I have never hunted a swamp but if I did I bet I would learn by my second hunt
to be 100 percent sure of my shot as deer are almost impossible to track when their
tracks are under water. And if I was hunting in a swamp I would never shoot at
a deer when a threat of heavy rain was imminent.

you gut shot it and went after it immediately is my guess

 

[pronghorn]

lets see you track one in a havey rain in a swamp, if you think you can i would like to see that ..lol

I don't have to prove myself to you or anyone, you are the one that can't find your deer. You are the one who countless times on this and other websites have bragged
of your powers and unbelievable finds. You claim proof of atlantis, templar relics, last supper relics, and on and on have been found in your site four. Well go find the deer and post a fuzzy out of focus picture of it.

i have enjoyed bow hunting to its fullist and i have some great memmories ..you would never beleive in a thousand years ..lol

no one believes your treasure hunting stories, you are right in assuming no one will believe your bowhunting stories.

I think it is time to repost my version of the LDM rendezvous


A day in the Superstitions at the everything site, after a long discussion at the
rendezvous our intrepid explorers agree to accompany BB to his "discoveries"

BB.....See it's right here, the ballcourt, the 7 caves, the totem, it's all here...

CJ....I don't see anything, do you?

BB....Right there...theres the ball court...

Springfield....Uhmmm BB, that's the parking lot where they park the trucks
and horse trailers, look out you just stepped in some sh**

BB....but but right here, the totem, can't you see it

Peerless...it's the trailhead marker, I'm outta here.

BB.................THE SEVEN CAVES....you have to see them, they're full of crystals.

Cubfan......Why is BB pointin at them culverts full of beer cans?

Somehiker...I don't care, I goin back to camp to wash this fertilizer off my boots.

BB...Hey wheres everyone going? you guys?
how am I going to find my way back?

 

[pronghorn]

LOL, where do you guys get this stuff...

BB - I "got it" from this.... "one of the only two deer i have shot and not recoverd ..out of 71 deer i have shot so far .. i can hit from 125 yards".

When you put those words into a single line and don't use the word target anywhere - it's a logical conclusion that you were referring to shooting deer from that distance. Thanks for clearing up the confusion.

the doe i shot from 75 yards was feeding on the other side of a small pond on the edge of a hay feild on a nice fall sunny day and was not stressed . i was 30ft up in a tree stand and she never knew i was there . i was shoting a screaming egale onidia bow at 70lbs with a 80% let off . this lets the bowman hold the shot untill the right time to release the arrow .. i held for more then 2 mintues to judge this deers actions after watching her for more then 10 mintues feeding ..

my bow was setup for long yardish shots at the time ...
would i take a shot like this now .. good question , each deer hunt is diffrent and most likely ,not ... as ome else stated a white paper plate is a good scale we can all relate to ..
i can hit a paper plate 10 for 10 from 70 yards out, with a bow setup for this distence & fine tuned by me .. ..it took me 3 days to tune the bow i am useing now ...

and yes most people dont shot more then 30ft at avg..

if you feel you can make a shot, is not the same as haveing controll over shot placement ..

I admire your passion for bow hunting but I have to say this, sitting 30 feet up in
a tree all day waiting for a doe to come close enough to shoot isn't quite the same as
stalking a large muledeer buck running with 11 does on the open planes and shooting it at 9 yards in a 30 mph wind. That is my idea of hunting. I still have not
harvested a pronghorn with a bow as I don't like the idea of sitting in a blind by
a waterhole waiting for thirst to drive one to me. Stand hunting is fine, if that is your thing, I don't have a problem with people who do it, just not my style. The rack in the center of the picture is the one that was temporarily in the possession of the muley I took at 9 yards on the ground. Second pic is just some of my gun and bow kills
through the years. I need to make an antler tree some day.

 

[mrs.oroblanco]

Who sits up in a tree?

We do still-hunting and stalking. Sitting in a tree is not - never has been - our cup of tea.

In some states they call it "spot and stalk". You go to a high point, use your binoculars and try to locate them. Once you locate your game, then you slowly make your way to them. Then, when the time is right, you take your shot.

If you are not a skilled stalker, sitting in a tree is your best bet - but not nearly as exciting.

It's one of the things that Mr. O and I had in common when we first got together many years ago - we both hunted by the same method - not from a tree.

Now - stalking and getting your game is REALLY exhilarating!!

B

 

[the blindbowman]

i can hunt from the ground but this area is for tree stands .. and i lived in wym for year and 1/2 . i have shot an elk and hunted Ram and antilope, and mules with a long bow...try stucking with a long bow .. you be glad to hunt from a tree stand after a week of that ,....lol

i have never hunted bear , its to cold in the woods naked ...lol

 

[Old Dog]

BB,

You aren't supposed to be the bait when you hunt bear.
Might as well roll yourself in barbecue sauce and go out unarmed.

 

[Oroblanco]

HOLA amigos,

<blush> Thanks Beth, Joe, Janiece for the kind words. Now before folks get the idea that I am a raging braggart, I do get my share of misses, and once emptied a rifle at a buck standing broadside at less than 100 yards and never touched a hair on him. I was hunting a small valley between two rocky hills and really I expected to drop him on the first shot so when I saw NO reaction I was stunned. I put another round in the chamber and aimed carefully, squeezed the shot off and again the buck simply stood there, looking all around as if trying to figure out where the thunder was coming from (the gunshots were echoing off the hills) so I thought maybe I am mis-reading the range, aimed a bit higher and carefully fired the third shot - and again no effect! The buck did jump a bit this time but I got another round in and tried again - he was not going to stick around forever. This shot finally alerted me to what was wrong, as I saw bark fly off a tree some six FEET in front of the buck! I thought how in heck....then I noticed that the rear sight had somehow gotten bumped from the correct position and was sticking out of one side at least a quarter inch, making my aim point many feet off at the range of the buck (which turned out to be about 80 yards). I put my last round in the chamber and as I was trying to guess a shot using only the front sight, the buck finally decided he could not stick around to find out if that would work and he was gone.

Blindbowman's point about a moving target versus shooting at standing targets is all too true. I would also explain why I was even bothering with trying to hit targets at such a range as we were (100 yards) - we had in mind to enter a shoot they held in a nearby county callled "clouts" (I think that is what they called it) and the range for it was 180 yards, with a target being a one-foot square piece of cloth or "flag". I think you had to shoot several dozen shots, anyway we never did enter the shoot, but I still think it would be quite a challenge. I doubt that anyone has such archery shoots like that today.

My apologies for the off-topic post, can't for the life of me think of a way to tie this back in to the actual thread topic.
Oroblanco

 

[mrs.oroblanco]

BB,

Wyoming is 10 miles from here where we are now living. Wyoming wasn't made for tree stands - we've hunted (and gotten) elk and antelope in Wyoming already, and many, many camera shots (without zooming to the n-th degree).

And, honestly, I'm not trying to be contrary, but it was YEARS before I hunted with a compound bow - up until then, it was always a long-bow.
I own a cross-bow - but I actually prefer a long bow.

B

 

[pronghorn]

Who sits up in a tree?

BB does and that is who I was addressing, I don't know how you got
the impression I was addressing you, I wasn't.
The comments were to BB, he said he could sit in a tree all day and
let bucks pass by waiting on a doe, I think he deleted that post.
He was acting like he is the only true bowman in the world, just
like he acts like he is the only true treasure finder with all his claims.
Just wanted to let him know,I for one,know a little about the sport also.
I flintknapp my own points but use mostly store bought.
I haven't yet made a bow from scratch but I ain't dead yet.
I bought my first bow in 1970 at 14 and still use it today,
for shooting carp when the walleye aren't biten.

If you are not a skilled stalker, sitting in a tree is your best bet - but not nearly as exciting.

The chances of getting a seat in the one tree in my county are about as good as
the chances of finding a deer stupid enough to walk under that tree, lol
If you are not a skilled stalker around here, the grocer sees you alot.

I am not the best bowman around, in fact,for around here,I am below average, lots
of good hunters here. And yes I have lost game before. And missed shots that were
gimme's.

What really is going on here is this.... BB was not posting for a few days, someone wondered where he was, someone else speculated that he was hunting.
That was all it took, he is back and is now acting civil and even cracking jokes.
But I for one am not fooled, soon his connection will come through again, he will load up on whatever is the drug du'jour and he will be telling you how far above you that he is and how merely human you all are.
Yeah I know it is his thread. But it is a public forum and I know his stuff from other
forums.
I am sure that soon he will be back to his old self and everything will be back to normal.
He'll get everyone all riled up with his claims and degrading remarks. Then when the return fire gets too close to home he'll retreat, for a day or three, then comes back with sob stories about his health or whatever to regain sympathy only to revert back to pie in the sky claims and "you are nowhere near me in mental capacity" type insults. It does get fairly entertaining, it is a good distraction, I will shut up for a while and lets see how it goes. But is all BB doing whatever to get and keep attention, my guess is he is a
very insecure person.

Just one more thing, BB you never answered my question, why didn't you shape shift like you claim you can do, why didn't you shape shift into some bird or predator and go sniff out that deer you wounded and let get away

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Aloo ORO & that, that, hubby pushing broad hehehehe) you posted -->?? well whatever it was , it was wrong.

My last bow wae BEAR SEMI-RECURVE 65#. Bein cheap, I made my own broadheads out of old saws and even a few with flint heads. Being orthodox, I made them with barbs and still have scars on my left index finger from over drawing. Right three fingers are about 1/8" wider than the left due to pulling a bow a lot.

As a kid I did get to see Hill a few times, man he WAS GOOD. the last time that I saw him was in SF at a match in the Golden Gate park. He had his bamboo longbow at #150 pull which he had built himself.sigh .

I managed many a small game critter for the pot with a blow gun, then decided to graduate to a spear for deer. I don't remember ever getting close enough to even think of throwing the spear. Thank the lord for an abundance of nice golden Trout. frying pan sized. sigh.

K, while still on the subject, what type of bow and arrow did they use at Atlanits?

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[cactusjumper]

Jose,

"K, while still on the subject, what type of bow and arrow did they use at Atlanits?"

Why, they used the double recurve nullbow. Believe that's exactly what bb should be using. Good thing about that......don't matter what kind of arrowhead you use, and you can never overdraw them.

Take care,

Joe

 

[somehiker]

Was gonna put up a pic of my own archery gear,but I thought that maybe this might be a bit more interesting to some.



and another which features the ballgame---part 2 of a series



Regards:SH.

 

[the blindbowman]

BB,

Wyoming is 10 miles from here where we are now living. Wyoming wasn't made for tree stands - we've hunted (and gotten) elk and antelope in Wyoming already, and many, many camera shots (without zooming to the n-th degree).

And, honestly, I'm not trying to be contrary, but it was YEARS before I hunted with a compound bow - up until then, it was always a long-bow.
I own a cross-bow - but I actually prefer a long bow.

B

who said wym was ...lol i was talking about new york when i said that ..

 

[Oroblanco]

HOLA amigos,

Somehiker - I could not get the first youtube to work, but the second one was interesting. I wish mi Espanol were a bit better but I got the gist I think. Thank you for posting that.

Good luck and good hunting, I hope you find the treasures that you seek.
Oroblanco

 

[somehiker]

U-tube will not allow embedding the first vid-----try this in your search field


YouTube - Quetzalcoatl en Mictlan

SH.