Good job - those are definitely the correct ones Joe used to post fairly often!
Paul, IIRC Joe said there were some fairly big monuments that still existed up there on the ridge...a la "The Monumented Trail Over The Ridge"...but that they disappeared at some point. The "Gene Reynolds view" was from a location that was over the ridge, and to the NE of the saddle and the "Helicopter view". Joe had found some sort of manganese deposit there. The location actually kind of matched up with the "Ruth Camp" location in Ely's book, and then later the area searched by Tracy Hawkins, Chuck Ribaudo et al when looking for the cave of gold bars. Which would've piqued Joe's interest
If I'm remembering all that correctly 
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I have a copy of all of Tom's treasure maps. He had a big binder and let me copy the collection. The doodle map in the collection is attached.Paul, IIRC Joe said there were some fairly big monuments that still existed up there on the ridge...a la "The Monumented Trail Over The Ridge"...but that they disappeared at some point. The "Gene Reynolds view" was from a location that was over the ridge, and to the NE of the saddle and the "Helicopter view". Joe had found some sort of manganese deposit there. The location actually kind of matched up with the "Ruth Camp" location in Ely's book, and then later the area searched by Tracy Hawkins, Chuck Ribaudo et al when looking for the cave of gold bars. Which would've piqued Joe's interest
Do you happen to have a copy of Tom K's booklet of maps that was sold at the museum back in the 1990's? I was wondering if "The Waltz Doodle" was in that booklet, and if there was a date indicating when it was published. As I remember it, the map booklet was just xeroxed pages stapled together between yellow card stock.
The reason I ask, is Helen was no Dutch Hunter...and the first book, "Curse" was pretty much just info provided by Bob and Tom K. So we can reasonably conclude that the vast majority of her material for that first book was supplied by Bob and Tom. That's just a guess, but it seems fairly obvious in her book that it's about Bob and Tom's decades long hunt for the mine and it makes sense that any material that she used probably came via Bob and Tom.
And as we know, Tom was a friend of the Martin's, and if anyone found anything in Herman's cabin after he passed, it was the Martin family. I don't recall seeing the Doodle in Tom's map booklet, which I think was published after but the same general timeframe as "Curse". So my question is if the Doodle isn't in Tom's map booklet, why not? Which could mean a lot of different things, but one possibility could be that Tom thought it was different than all the maps in the booklet? As in the map was close-hold, or known for certain it was not in public distro. Tom said he published the maps so suckers wouldn't have to spend money on them. If the Doodle isn't in there, perhaps he didn't expect anyone to have or sell that particular map.
Martain showed Tom K the mine and he showed Feildman. Jack visited the location later after all the hoopla.
Charles F. Higham...a newspaperman, who wrote the first version of Barney Barnard's book. He was also the one who dropped off a copy of Brownie's "Holmes Manuscript" along with two of his own Dutchman manuscripts at the AZ State Library, where it was found later and publicized.
In other words all bull. So much for the doodle map. Glad to help.
Sure looks that way. Wish Helen had just included Tom's note at the top of it when she put it in her book. Would've saved a lot of trouble over the years
In other words all bull. Glad to he
There is a lesson here. People have chased this for years. I was at Greg's library and after I looked around I said to him maybe Waltz drew a map. Where did all this come from. Now we can see even that map was produced by a fraudster. If you want gold so bad join a prospecting club and learn how to prospect. That's what I did. You will find more than chasing bull clues. Those that found the LDM are laughing at you.Sure looks that way. Wish Helen had just included Tom's note at the top of it when she put it in her book. Would've saved a lot of trouble over the years
I know those who dug it out do. Oh! Everyone looking at Weavers Needle should have looked at Byous Butte. That's where Travis and Garman found $3000000 in gold at $30 a oz. That is what was on Tex Barkley hidden Ruth maps. That was Tom's opinion. The insiders whisper and the outsiders can't hear. I really dont care. I'm happy just prospecting for gold others can't find. I don't understand how so many looked for so long with nothing to show for it. Woody and I found nice gold on our second trip in 5 feet from my car door. Don't listen to me. You may stumble on a stash. It helps if you are looking in the right area. Start at Byous Butte and work your way out.
It just don't seem logical to me. I know there are people that are "boots on the ground " people that WON'T give out any tips/ hints ,as to where they spent countless days/ months /years out looking for this ! and maybe it's been retrieved already and they want to keep it quite ? BUT the dream still flutters in men's minds ! There are some very good reason's to keep your mouth shut ! The laws /lawsuits / greed /robbers etc. There are people out there that DON'T want you close to where they think its at. Dead people that were shot point that out clearly to me! I think that spending the BIG bucks will eventually point the way to belief . using a drone with a device that will show any anomaly to gold or silver might help!
I’ll check it out
