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haley
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Zuse :
on page 63 there is no Green i CONFUSED PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!
Haley
on page 63 there is no Green i CONFUSED PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!
Haley
Treasure Clue, can you help?
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LitDoc
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There is lots of green on page 63. Are you looking at the correct page?
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haley
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Page 63 Chapter 13, The Thief?
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haley
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I know there is a lot of gree but there is no green I
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haley
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On page 63 the only green letters I see are:
J E T C R E S U S E
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J E T C R E S U S E
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haley
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Zuse
I am so sorry I thought you said four green letters but you said red and thank you LittleDoc for helping me through my time of stupidity!!!!!!
I am so sorry I thought you said four green letters but you said red and thank you LittleDoc for helping me through my time of stupidity!!!!!!
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haley
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Bye
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LitDoc
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Someone asked earlier where I got the companion book (CB). It was not in Tampa; I always buy on Amazon.com because it is delivered to my door, usually within the week, and shipping is free if you order at least $25.
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haley
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Thank you littledoc 
CMSCHUT
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GOOD MORNING ALL, to keep things hopping on here today thought i'd throw an idea your way .
while reading again through the book in chapter 13 THE THEFT the last line , AND THE DEAD TREES HUNG WITH JEWELED FOREST CREATURES. this reminded me of christmas trees . it made me think if we have a place in the u.s. where they grow them . i know let me have it . it was just a thought that came to mind when i read that line . i'm sure we've all done it at one point or another . let me know what you all think .
while reading again through the book in chapter 13 THE THEFT the last line , AND THE DEAD TREES HUNG WITH JEWELED FOREST CREATURES. this reminded me of christmas trees . it made me think if we have a place in the u.s. where they grow them . i know let me have it . it was just a thought that came to mind when i read that line . i'm sure we've all done it at one point or another . let me know what you all think .
treasurehunter56
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Re: anybody got an idea?
I'm new, and I was wondering...Is There Any REAL reason why the author sometimes puts an extra E into words? And why (in the very first pages of the book) is the fairy-guy pointing to those pink numbers?
I'm new, and I was wondering...Is There Any REAL reason why the author sometimes puts an extra E into words? And why (in the very first pages of the book) is the fairy-guy pointing to those pink numbers?
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pancho_semplice
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treasure56, MS is using some words and phrases from Old English throughout the book. Now, from a code breaking standpoint, there are two ways to look at this. One, if you are going by the actual letters of words, i.e. the fourth letter of each word, then you have something there. On the other hand, if you are taking the actual words themselves to make new sentences, i.e. the second word of each sentence, then it makes no real difference.
I'm sure there are examples of both in the text. This blasted cipher key is what is most important though. You can carve up this text in a variety of ways and find nothing. It's like a modern automobile, you can't hot wire them anymore, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE KEY!
Still, I am fairly certain the cipher key is important only for finding Pook. I hope to confirm that this evening when I get around to perusing my book some more. Still, what I have found in regards to the cipher key is filling me with doubts. I need to look through the companion book some more to see if there is an example of a code that uses a collection of keys (read:13). If there is a cipher key that unlocks all thirteen jewels, then the person who is able to do it first will essentially have free reign to retrieve all the tokens. That doesn't feel right to me. I think there is a unique solution for each of the 13 tokens, based on one common principle.
For those of you who are looking for colored letters, I'm afraid you may be wasting your time. I don't believe you will find another hidden message using the same method from the block page, just like I don't see us finding any more morse code. I think he hid the various parts of this puzzle in a variety of ways, and didn't just pick his favorites. As always, this is just my opinion. I have seen a great deal of hidden code throughout the book, but it's all Greek to me. Since I have honed in on one token, I've stop concentrating on it for the time being.
I am trying to schedule a trip sometime in April, but my weekends are already booked for the entire month! I have a birthday party, an engagement party, a yard sale and wedding next month! Not to mention that my own birthday is a week from today! April is a busy month! I may arrange a Friday off to make my trip, but that is dependent on my boss being cooperative!
I'm sure there are examples of both in the text. This blasted cipher key is what is most important though. You can carve up this text in a variety of ways and find nothing. It's like a modern automobile, you can't hot wire them anymore, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE KEY!
Still, I am fairly certain the cipher key is important only for finding Pook. I hope to confirm that this evening when I get around to perusing my book some more. Still, what I have found in regards to the cipher key is filling me with doubts. I need to look through the companion book some more to see if there is an example of a code that uses a collection of keys (read:13). If there is a cipher key that unlocks all thirteen jewels, then the person who is able to do it first will essentially have free reign to retrieve all the tokens. That doesn't feel right to me. I think there is a unique solution for each of the 13 tokens, based on one common principle.
For those of you who are looking for colored letters, I'm afraid you may be wasting your time. I don't believe you will find another hidden message using the same method from the block page, just like I don't see us finding any more morse code. I think he hid the various parts of this puzzle in a variety of ways, and didn't just pick his favorites. As always, this is just my opinion. I have seen a great deal of hidden code throughout the book, but it's all Greek to me. Since I have honed in on one token, I've stop concentrating on it for the time being.
I am trying to schedule a trip sometime in April, but my weekends are already booked for the entire month! I have a birthday party, an engagement party, a yard sale and wedding next month! Not to mention that my own birthday is a week from today! April is a busy month!
I may arrange a Friday off to make my trip, but that is dependent on my boss being cooperative!
CMSCHUT
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PANCHO, I believe you hit the nail on the head. i also think that ms. chose a different code or puzzle for each separate token. it seems the only way to make the hunt and decoding the clues harder . i also want to tell you to go on your hunt , sometimes we should listen to our hunches . if you find a way good luck.
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LitDoc
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Pancho, I am confused that you refer to "the" cipher key. Do you believe there is one key to solving 13 ciphers/puzzles? I can almost guarantee that MS did not set up the hunt to be solved in one method by one person. He has said as much on several occasions.
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pancho_semplice
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LitDoc,
I am referring to the cipher key that is "revealed" from the secondary solution to "Hint: Tackle Repositorys" (Start cipher key in tools) Given the public solution to the hint, Crystal Pook is thirteen, I am led to believe the cipher key is part of the Pook Puzzle.
My thoughts are that if we were to use the same method for Pook, why would MS not just include it with the rest of the jewels? Of course there are clues to find the Pook jewel in the book, but if they were in line with the rest I wouldn't think MS would make it such a big production. That's just me though.
I am referring to the cipher key that is "revealed" from the secondary solution to "Hint: Tackle Repositorys" (Start cipher key in tools) Given the public solution to the hint, Crystal Pook is thirteen, I am led to believe the cipher key is part of the Pook Puzzle.
My thoughts are that if we were to use the same method for Pook, why would MS not just include it with the rest of the jewels? Of course there are clues to find the Pook jewel in the book, but if they were in line with the rest I wouldn't think MS would make it such a big production. That's just me though.
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LitDoc
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I understand now. Yes, if there is a tool's page cipher, then it is likely to lead to the Pook token. Have you discarded the theory that the hidden critters are bookends to the clues to finding it? Is there too much overlap?
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pancho_semplice
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Humor me for a bit
Ok, so I was looking at the poem, once again, and came up with a small change that 'completes' the poem.
Each is outside for you to find.? (33)
No digging or prying just reach inside.? (38-39)
I think it should be:
For you to find, each is outside.
No digging or prying just reach inside.
I know that page 33 is a drawn otherwise, but I think that just might be a clue to look into.
With this change there are 18 lines in 9 couplets.? Neither 9 or 18 means anything to me at the moment, but I can't help but think this is how the poem is supposed to be done.? Out of the 9 existing couplets, this one is the only one that doesn't rhyme. However, the have one word that rhymes, how can it not the right?
Regardless, please give me your insight, I will not make the change to the "Poem Post" until I get a consensus from the forum.
Ok, so I was looking at the poem, once again, and came up with a small change that 'completes' the poem.
Each is outside for you to find.? (33)
No digging or prying just reach inside.? (38-39)
I think it should be:
For you to find, each is outside.
No digging or prying just reach inside.
I know that page 33 is a drawn otherwise, but I think that just might be a clue to look into.
With this change there are 18 lines in 9 couplets.? Neither 9 or 18 means anything to me at the moment, but I can't help but think this is how the poem is supposed to be done.? Out of the 9 existing couplets, this one is the only one that doesn't rhyme. However, the have one word that rhymes, how can it not the right?
Regardless, please give me your insight, I will not make the change to the "Poem Post" until I get a consensus from the forum.
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LitDoc
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Pancho,
Bravo to you for finalizing the poem!
I think the first way you have it is better. It does rhyme: the vowel sound is long I in both ending words, and they both end with the consonent sound, D. The fact that the first line has an N sound in the middle is inconsequential in poetry. And just repeating two words (side and side) is technically not a rhyme (at least not in my textbook).
Thanks for your persistence!
Bravo to you for finalizing the poem!
I think the first way you have it is better. It does rhyme: the vowel sound is long I in both ending words, and they both end with the consonent sound, D. The fact that the first line has an N sound in the middle is inconsequential in poetry. And just repeating two words (side and side) is technically not a rhyme (at least not in my textbook).
Thanks for your persistence!
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pancho_semplice
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LitDoc,
You do bring up a very valid point. ?I did not consider what might be considered a rhyme from a grammatical standpoint. ?Still, I find it odd that MS would use a "traditional rhyme" (i.e. rhyme/time) in every other stanza and a "non-traditional" (find/inside) for only one. ?If that is the case, then it would seem to me that this may be a clue of some sort.
I'm also looking at the poem as multiple verses or stanzas. ?Maybe three with 6 lines each? ?I know I keep going back to the poem, but I honestly believe that there is more to it than we have initially discussed. ?
You do bring up a very valid point. ?I did not consider what might be considered a rhyme from a grammatical standpoint. ?Still, I find it odd that MS would use a "traditional rhyme" (i.e. rhyme/time) in every other stanza and a "non-traditional" (find/inside) for only one. ?If that is the case, then it would seem to me that this may be a clue of some sort.
I'm also looking at the poem as multiple verses or stanzas. ?Maybe three with 6 lines each? ?I know I keep going back to the poem, but I honestly believe that there is more to it than we have initially discussed. ?
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