Treasure, Tombs and Tolas - Finding Lost Cities and Relics in South America

Relic2010

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Jun 28, 2011
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Hi Guys!!!

I used to be an archaeologist, and have since become obsessed with applying that experience to treasure hunting. To that end, I developed a methodology (which has since become a book which I hope will be available later this year) which will enable anyone to find ancient treasure sites, and which is applicable to most cultures, civilizations and eras around the world.

To test it out, I travelled to South America, specifically to Ecuador, Peru and Bolivia, to see if I could use it to locate ancient sites. The results speak for themselves. Accompanied by an up and coming videographer, Jonathan David Holmes, I went in search of a lost city in the coastal jungles of Ecuador. Not only did we find the city, but we also located multiple other sites in the vicinity and elsewhere in the country.

The Lost City of the Jama
The city was one of those which had been sacked by none other than Francisco Pizzarro early on in his career, but which had been going on before the arrival of the Spaniards for hundreds of years, resulting in a ceremonial area and necropolis embracing as many as half a million graves. Many of those graves contained grave goods such as valuable antiquities, emeralds, gold and silver. Unfortunately, problems with gun men in the area (we were tracked by some of them and subsequently had to hide in the jungle, mere meters from them, watching them pass by whilst they searched for us) forced us to leave early.

The Lost Idol of the Jama Tomb
One of the great discoveries caught on film was what I call Jama Tomb 1. The tomb, located by a river, yielded a few dessicated human bones, large pieces of beautifully crafted pottery, complete with artistic designs, and a magnificent ceramic Precolumbian idol, typical of the Jama people, representing a fertility goddess.

Secrets of the Valdivians
Other discoveries made in other areas of the coast were from a farmerā€™s field which had once been an ancient Valdivian culture village. The Valdivian culture, famous for their gold nose rings and ceramic ā€˜venusā€™ figurines (which sell for up to five hundred dollars for a complete figurine, and only 100 ā€“ 300 for a broken one). The dig yielded various ceramic figurines such as Valdivian venuses, which were ceremonial items that were believed used for fertility rituals, and were almost always female. The figurines were ritually broken at either the neck or waist, and then ceremonially buried in the village plaza, which was the heart of the Valdivian religious life. They are believed to be some of the earliest ceramics of the New World, and date back approximately 5,000 years.

Legendary Tunnel Systems of the Incas
We also explored ancient tunnels in the area of Sacsayhuaman, Peru, long associated with rumors of treasure legends. The tunnels are further away from the short ā€˜tunnelsā€™ shown to tourists. These were difficult to find, overgrown with grass, and dangerous to enter and navigate. Many of them began life as natural caverns but show signs of being extended by human hand. One was so hidden by grass that I actually fell down it up to my waist! Luckily, my foot found a small ledge and I was spared grevious injury. Often, Iā€™d have to crawl on all fours to navigate a tunnel, fearing that it would collapse in on me at any minute. At other points, I could easily stand up and walk around.

Uncovering the Traces of Past Treasure Hunters
At one site in Ecuador, not far from Cuenca, I also happened to uncover yet another tomb and removed a well preserved femur from it. This particular bone probably belonged to one of the myriads of tombs discovered in the 1860ā€™s which had created a gold craze in the small village, leading to the entire Precolumbian burial ground being despoiled in search of the yellow metal.

We did a lot in those months. We travelled down river in search of remnants of the ancient Montenita civilization, spoke to old huaceros (treasure hunters) about ruins, lost cities, ancient South American writing (which we went in search of) and even emeralds in the area, and searched the Ocucaje Desert for dinosaur fossils along with the curator of the world famous Ica Stones, Dr. Ernesto Cabrerra.

Itā€™s been a year since the South American expedition ended, and the documentary of what I did there, named ā€˜What is Hidden, May Be Foundā€™ is slated to be released in October/November of this year. Jonathan David Holmes, who accompanied me every step of the way up until we parted in Cuzco (John had to return early back to his native U.K. whilst I went on) has already won an accolade award for his efforts, and hopefully will continue to draw interest to his work.

I can teach anyone to do what I did. Sure, I went to college, but Iā€™m a regular guy. Anyone can learn to locate these sites. To that end, Iā€™m making my methodology for that available to the public, hopefully later on this year. The foundation, as you may have guessed, is solid research, as any treasure hunter worth their salt will tell you.

As I am unsure about TreasureNetā€™s policy regarding posting links, Iā€™ll just post the link to the FB page. If thatā€™s not allowed, the moderator can just remove it. You can simply google the documentary name ā€˜What is Hidden, May be Foundā€™ as well. It has a facebook page that has photos and stills of the documentary, including photos of some of the artifacts such as the idols, etc. There are also trailers and some footage from South America. It is not yet available for purchase, however. I apologize if Iā€™ve breached any forum regulation, or posted in the wrong area. If so, I didnā€™t mean it, and please feel free to delete what you must.

Anyone interested in discussing this or anything related to treasure hunting methodology can contact me directly (PM me), on this forum or leave comments on Johnā€™s FB page. A great methodology can produce great results. It would be great to put our heads together.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/WhatIsHiddenMayBeFound?fref=ts

Regards,

Relic

Note for moderator: this is the only treasure site Iā€™ve posted on, and the FB page isnā€™t a treasure site. Itā€™s about a documentary.
 

It would be nice to see some of your material finds.
 

If you click on the link, it should take you to a page where you can see what we found. I did try and upload photos here, but the digital photos taken were all in hi - def, which is a very big file, and is therefore quite difficult to upload to the forum. I will try again however.
 

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Me and Jonathan David Holmes on the first day of the expedition for the lost city, Ecuador
 

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Dinner time!

In the search for ancient burial Tolas, we come accross some local livestock running free.
 

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There are lots of other stuff, some much better material, but due to the size of the photo files, I can't seem to upload them on. Not everything is on the FB page either. Besides this, I found A LOT of leads in the field, which I am hoping will turn out to be big, but which I haven't yet got around to. Would be great to network with other treasure hunters, especially those who are interested in researching the treasure hunting process itself, as well as those who are into more ancient or older cultures, no matter where in the world they happen to be based (I travel internationally a lot). Anyone?
 

and .........

There are lots of other stuff, some much better material, but due to the size of the photo files, I can't seem to upload them on. Not everything is on the FB page either. Besides this, I found A LOT of leads in the field, which I am hoping will turn out to be big, but which I haven't yet got around to. Would be great to network with other treasure hunters, especially those who are interested in researching the treasure hunting process itself, as well as those who are into more ancient or older cultures, no matter where in the world they happen to be based (I travel internationally a lot). Anyone?


And ..... you wouldn't .... by chance .... be looking for investors. Right? :coffee2:
 

Hi Tom,

No, actually I'm not looking for investors or any sort of financial imput. I don't need any. And I prefer to work as much as possible, alone, or in small groups of people which I know. And I already have a small group of people I can go to. What I'm after here is exactly what I've stated above, just networking and putting our experience together in the hope that we might learn something from each other, specifically, the research methods, both in and out of the field. Nothing more. After all, isn't what this site is about?
 

If I wasnt married with family with a job.....it would be a dream come true for me. I am always interested in anything that involves ancient man. I live in Ga we have everything here from Paleo all the way to Historic and then of course the Civil War was here as well. Allot of history all over this area. Thanks for the offer though, rock
 

Secretcanyon, actually, I'm a Darth - arch. That's right, an arch - villain! Seriously though, I have struck a tenous moral balance between archaeology and treasure hunting. First off, when it comes to the methods of finding sites, treasure hunters more often than not find them first. Archaeologists do and can find them, but TH's find more and find them far more frequently. Which begs the question: how do they do that? I learnt how archaeologists did it, and wanted to find out how treasure hunters and huaceros did it. Unfortunately, neither side speaks to the other. I decided to talk to both sides (the archaeologists and the TH's) and then put together what I found out from both.


I figure if TH's could be educated in archeological techniques, and could conduct digs and record data simultaneously, archaeologists should be happy, after all the main reason that they say they should be the only ones digging up sites is becuase they believe important data will be lost if anyone else does it. But what if TH's are able to be trained to record data? Archeologists simply record data, study the artifacts, sometimes for years, and eventually sell them to museums and other venues when they no longer have need of them. Museums hide up to 2/3 of their collections sometimes, and objects have not seen the light of day for 100 years in some cases (such as the British Museum). Other museums, depending on where they are, don't have the proper facilities to care for collections, and so they deteriorate or are stolen. Rich private collectors, do have proper facilities, and contrary to popular opinion, many loan out their collections to the better equipped major museums around the world. Lastly, archeologists often fail to publish the results of their work...which begs the question: if the data is not published, how is that any different from what less careful treasure hunters do today? I believe a balance needs to be struck. Treasure hunting, I think, is in it's infancy, and is still developing into a careful discipline. If archeologists sell their finds to museums after recording data, treasure hunters ought to be able to do the same. The cool thing is that in some cases, although admittedly rare, archaeologists and TH's have begun working together and collaborating. In some countries, such as Ecuador, the government even issues permits to TH's, so long as it gets half of the cut.

Anyways, sorry for the ramble, just thinking out loud.
 

Actually Rock, I'm not accepting new partners at the moment. When I talked about networking and putting our experience together, I meant simply discussing how we go about preparing for a dig and all the research associated with it, on the forum. That's pretty much what I'm interested in right now: just discussion.

You do live in an interesting area. A wife and kids shouldn't hold you back from doing a little exploration in your spare time though. Take your kids with you. It'll get them interested in History like nothing else. Better than reading about it in some stuffy textbook! Besides, there's always the future. You might be busy now, but that doesn't mean you always will be. I mean, Mexico is right next door and has some great civilizations. And America had whole cities in it's pre settler days! I've always envied you guys for that. You have some amazing possibilities around you.
 

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... After all, isn't what this site is about?

Oh sure, yes. That's what this site is all about. Seeing who's-finding-what, debating/comparing technology, techniques, finds, etc..... Naturally. But the reason I asked what I did, was you'd be surprised how many posts come on that sound similar to yours (someone with potential to strike it rich "any minute now" or with "a definate treasure lead sure to pay off", and so forth. And ....... what they really are, is someone looking for others to invest. And .. you can guess how many of them are legit :)

So I was just making sure this was not another one of those type posts.
 

I agree with the points you make to justify your actions.
However, your sensitivity toward burials is a little shy of being balanced.
You mention burials, the materials they contain, and monetary value all in the same breath.
That puts you over the edge into the dark side.
What about the ancestors of those buried there? What say do they have?
Do you have permission from local governments to do this?
I understand that as a former archaeologist you were trained to disturb the dead and loot their final resting place.
I'm all for the methodology archaeology uses but digging burials for personal agendas (unless it's a salvage project) crosses the line.
At least with my morals.
This day and age, I'm probably on my own with these so-called morals!
Cheers,
Dave.
 

muddy, my training is similar to this persons...
I will not dig anywhere I suspect human remains may be found...caused lots of issues in grad school...

the first indicator of "civilization" is ritualized burial...while much information can be derived from study of burial customs and artifacts, digging them for profit...well..i don't want this post deleted...so let me say that any professional archeologist will NEVER participate in this behavior.
 

Do you have permission from local governments to do this?

The "grave" issue aside for a moment (we all know what happens when the subject of "graveyards" comes up.... doh! :)) Does one need permission to treasure-hunt? No. There need not be "permission" to do such a thing. Only if there were a prohibition saying "no metal detecting", does anyone "need permission". No more-so (for example), than does muddy-handz "need permission" to detect his local sandbox, school yard, beach, etc....
 

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