US Belt or Box Plate bucket lister

cmthunder

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Found my first ever US Plate today. Wanted to go to one of my Civil War sites today but had to pick my son up from school in Cecil County Md so had to hit my farm site there. 1694 Farm that had 3 home sites across the road from it that date 1858 or earlier. About 10:00 pull the plate from in front of a tree. I’ve hunted this place a lot. But now with new Equinox 600 I got a screaming signal. Not sure if belt or box plate. I have found 2 Union Infantry officer buttons here also.
Other finds toy gun barrel, nice button, roundball .
 

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Steve in PA

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Sweet cartridge box plate. I've seen so many posted that are all mangled up, usually from the plow. I dug a really nice one a few years ago from the front yard of a house near Antietam.
 

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Found my first ever US Plate today. Wanted to go to one of my Civil War sites today but had to pick my son up from school in Cecil County Md so had to hit my farm site there. 1694 Farm that had 3 home sites across the road from it that date 1858 or earlier. About 10:00 pull the plate from in front of a tree. I’ve hunted this place a lot. But now with new Equinox 600 I got a screaming signal. Not sure if belt or box plate. I have found 2 Union Infantry officer buttons here also.
Other finds toy gun barrel, nice button, roundball .
Congratulations on the cartridge box plate. Looks to be in great shape!
 

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cmthunder, Congrat's on the Great Save of the U.S. box plate. This plate as said is in great condition. When these are found today, it gives us all hope that more History is still beneath the soil and waiting to be brought up. This plate will look great in your display. Well Done.
 

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Since no one has really explained why it's a cartridge box plate, the indicator that says box plate is the two small loops on the back. Even though rusted away those small loops were used to fasten the plate to the face of the box by way of rawhide ties. A belt plate would have used entirely different attaching points like arrow shaped hooks or more rounded nubs referred to as puppy paws.
 

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Found my first ever US Plate today. Wanted to go to one of my Civil War sites today but had to pick my son up from school in Cecil County Md so had to hit my farm site there. 1694 Farm that had 3 home sites across the road from it that date 1858 or earlier. About 10:00 pull the plate from in front of a tree. I’ve hunted this place a lot. But now with new Equinox 600 I got a screaming signal. Not sure if belt or box plate. I have found 2 Union Infantry officer buttons here also.
Other finds toy gun barrel, nice button, roundball .
Awesome!!! Congrats!!!
 

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cmthunder

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Since no one has really explained why it's a cartridge box plate, the indicator that says box plate is the two small loops on the back. Even though rusted away those small loops were used to fasten the plate to the face of the box by way of rawhide ties. A belt plate would have used entirely different attaching points like arrow shaped hooks or more rounded nubs referred to as puppy paws.
We’re box plates and belt plates the same size?
 

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Since no one has really explained why it's a cartridge box plate, the indicator that says box plate is the two small loops on the back. Even though rusted away those small loops were used to fasten the plate to the face of the box by way of rawhide ties. A belt plate would have used entirely different attaching points like arrow shaped hooks or more rounded nubs referred to as puppy paws.
I've wondered why they used such an expensive way of 'sealing' (I assume) the cartridge box? Because I'm guessing they didn't get reused? I would like to understand more about there function?
 

ticndig

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I've wondered why they used such an expensive way of 'sealing' (I assume) the cartridge box? Because I'm guessing they didn't get reused? I would like to understand more about there function?
not a box in the way we think of a box , more like a pouch made of leather .
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ticndig

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Found my first ever US Plate today. Wanted to go to one of my Civil War sites today but had to pick my son up from school in Cecil County Md so had to hit my farm site there. 1694 Farm that had 3 home sites across the road from it that date 1858 or earlier. About 10:00 pull the plate from in front of a tree. I’ve hunted this place a lot. But now with new Equinox 600 I got a screaming signal. Not sure if belt or box plate. I have found 2 Union Infantry officer buttons here also.
Other finds toy gun barrel, nice button, roundball .
be sure to go back and look for the breast plate and belt plate . there's a good chance they are in the area.
 

devldog

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The box plate would act as a weight on the flap of the cartridge box. On the bottom of the flap/cover, there was a leather strip with a slit in the middle of the strip. This would be pulled down and fitted over a lead or brass finial on the bottom of the cartridge box and would secure the flap when the soldier was not loading and retrieving bullets from the box. While in a battle the strip would be removed from the finial, making it possible for the soldier to open the flap and access the ammunition. The box plate again, would serve as a weight keeping the flap down and preventing the bullets from spilling from the soldiers cartridge box.
 

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