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Found these 3 coins in a box of junk in my parents garage today, my google-foo is weak as i wasnt able to find ANYTHING on any of the 3 and i realise that the smaller coin has COPY stamped on it but i feel this is superficial...maybe...it looks and feels real haha.. any ideas? 20130303_175850.webp20130303_175923.webp
 

Not to be a downer but there fake forget what they are but they stamp copy in the coins so they can't be sold as "real". You would have a nice payday if they where real
 

ive got one just like that one that says copy only thing i found out about is that it came with a reader digest mag years ago if my memory is right the other 2 could be real
 

The smaller one is as fake as fake can get. I've seen -lots- of examples of it, they are modern, machine struck coins. And if it feels real to you, you probably haven't handled many authentic hammered coins :tongue3:

The bottom one looks like it should be real, and as wildman pointed out it is a Justinian I follis. Although without holding it in hand I cannot say whether or not it is for sure authentic or not.

As for the one with the helmet on it, something just looks "off" to me, not "off" enough that I would say its a fake, but if I saw the coin on eBay I wouldn't bid on it. I can't really identify the type of it, it appears to be Athena on the obverse and a trophy on the reverse. Beyond that and after a few Google searches I can't find much info on it.
 

What... No- The little one is very very rare!
It was a dual country coin co-minted by the Romans and Greeks. The letter O is really a letter D.
Roman C=100, D=500 ---written CD is 400.
PY is Greek P (Rho)=100, Y (Upsilon)=400 P+Y=500
So the coin----- CDPY was worth 400 in Rome and 500 in Athens....

Not really. Sorry... Just a tourist shop gift.
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believes it or not, i was reading a story once in national geo-graph-ick 'bout the real artifacts having stamped copy or facsimile in them, and the fake one's said nothing. I believe it was in mexico regarding stolen antiques, and they actually ended up taking the unstamped fake one's instead of the ones that said copy. ask your parents where these were obtained from, IF THEY DID NOT LOOK SO OBVIOUSLY FAKE, there woulda been a slim chance of them being real despite the COPY mark.
 

It could be real or copy of specific coin. These coins looks like Romans and Greeks coins. If you mentioned the weigh of both coins than it will be easy to compare them.
 

While it is possible that some genuine antiquities would be stamped copy to allow them to be exported (and then the copy removed) what you have at least for the smallest coin is a very common copy is in no way a decent fake.

See:

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/128164-ceaae-coin-copy.html
Any idea's on what these are? | Repro Gela tetradrachm - Coin Community Forum

And many others...

Now an actual forgery (one where collectors have a hard time distinguishing between genuine and fake coins) is like this one:

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Now out of these two, which is the forgery?

The answer it is the one with the blue background on the top, it is a copy of a penny of Edward the Elder that was made by the forger Trevor Ashmore, whereas the bottom one is a genuine coin.

The forgery is made out of silver just like the authentic coin. The only difference is the lettering and the porous surface of the forgery.
 

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