What does everyone think about ISIS Destroying Ancient sites & Relics.

[Davers]

Just wondering ..
I know this has happened all through History, like The Christians during the Crusades , The Spanish in South & Central America, Even what the Europeans ,Did to Native Americans & their Stuff.

I can understand "One shall not Worship a Graven Image". but IMO Me can make "Idols" out of anything . Dollar Bill's (Hundred's I mean) lol or Drugs, or Another Person?

Just a waste of history, Next they will blow up the Pyramids.
Well like I said ,This is the way It has always been.

I can tell we use only a Small portion of our Brains.

 

[Dust Eater]

Just one more reason why no one likes ISIS

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Davers, what you're saying sounds reasonable. And "rolls off the tongue". I mean, doh, who would EVER say it's dandy to "destroy ancient sites and relics" ? No one, of course. However, the devil is in the details: The minute we agree to that premise, then what's to stop that same logic from applying to stuff we find md'ing ?

Sure as heck, someone will define "relic" as being a 51 + yr. old coin or item. That you have I have "destroyed" (stolen, looted, etc...). And then presto, no more md'ing allowed anywhere.

Hence, I'm ALL FOR THE DESTRUCTION AND PILLAGING OF RELICS AND HISTORIC SITES. Doh! (modern coins bore me)

 

[Davers]

Davers, what you're saying sounds reasonable. And "rolls off the tongue". I mean, doh, who would EVER say it's dandy to "destroy ancient sites and relics" ? No one, of course. However, the devil is in the details: The minute we agree to that premise, then what's to stop that same logic from applying to stuff we find md'ing ?

Sure as heck, someone will define "relic" as being a 51 + yr. old coin or item. That you have I have "destroyed" (stolen, looted, etc...). And then presto, no more md'ing allowed anywhere.

Hence, I'm ALL FOR THE DESTRUCTION AND PILLAGING OF RELICS AND HISTORIC SITES. Doh! (modern coins bore me)

OK Tom ..
I kinda get your point.
My minds all over the place right now.(I have not taken my Anxiety med's yet / Trying to see how long it takes me to have a Seizure.) Or just how Dependent I really am , but that's another Story.

I guess nothing is to stop the same logic of Defining a 51 y/o relic as being Sacred or Important to the people of the Earth's Cultural Heritage. Just Common Sense.

Heck I consider the Cutting down of 100+ year old trees as the loss of something 'Important'
Esp,When there is PLENTY of Crappy Buildings that could be torn down to build the same Neighborhood.

Plus I hear you need a permit to destroy such Items ie, the permit being an AK-47 , RPG, & A group of people who think like you.
Also at-least when an item is Stolen ,it still exists, & not blown up into rubble forever.
FWIW-I like having those old Relics/Sites around, Even if the rock in my yard predates them by Millions of years.
Crazy Davers

 

[flgliderpilot]

I blame humans. Without them, none of this would have happened.

 

[releventchair]

I do not agree with all cultures of the past or present's beliefs or rituals,customs ect..
No reason to erase their works of structure or artifacts though.

Always a different view going to surface, even many at once and killing those worldwide who differ is understood as a goal for certain factions; but how realistic a goal is it?

History is so often altered by "the victors" in an attempt to produce their version of the truth, that truth becomes propaganda with no supporting evidence.
So it is happening again.

Why not use existing historical places and relics in the current propaganda and still have something for future tourists to gawk at?
Easier to show them something old and mysterious and take their money, than offer a pile of rubble to view.

A country's history has to go back somewhere.
Unless erasing all human memory, how can no past exist even if no longer tangible or visible?

Not unlike the U.S. debating over a flag or a statue huh?

 

[JrMack]

It is sad! Its part of their agenda to strip all history and identity of a people and at the same time aquire wealth to fuel their continuing onslaut upon innocent people by aggression. Don't want to debate any religious aspects here, there seems to be enough about that everyware!

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Davers,

You got the question out in a great manner - bringing up the historical precedents. And so many more that you didn't mention - the Roman destruction of the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem in 70 AD; "leave no two stones standing". The Pope Theodosis calling for the burning of the Library of Alexandria in 391 AD (probably the worst loss of history ever), all the looted Egyptian sites and the peeling of the Great Pyramids for structural stone, the Norse sacking the Catholic Churches in Britain. US shelling and leveling of the abbey of Monte Cassino in 1943. The Taliban destroying the Buddhist statues at Bamiyan.

Humans just don't care about other people's beliefs or historical sites. ISIS is bad news because they are doing it just out of intolerance with no strategic advantage to be gained. If not a war crime it is a crime against history. What a tragic loss. I understand the Great Pyramids and Sphinx are on their "must go" list.


Whatever happened to that neutron bomb we supposedly had near ready that destroyed people and not structures? Sounds like we have a good test region.

 

[kingskid1611]

I don't destroy artifacts, I collect them.

 

[Joe hunter]

I don't destroy artifacts, I collect them.

Sometimes I scratch them pretty bad with my digger.

 

[Honest Samuel]

I am outrage.

 

[Honest Samuel]

# 5. Without your parents, you would not be here writing comments.

 

[kingskid1611]

Sometimes I scratch them pretty bad with my digger.

Its okay if they get scratched if you hadn't found them they would have been lost forever.

 

[rginn]

I'm still p*ssed about French soldiers shooting the nose off the Sphinx.

 

[Davers]

Davers,

You got the question out in a great manner - bringing up the historical precedents. And so many more that you didn't mention - the Roman destruction of the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem in 70 AD; "leave no two stones standing". The Pope Theodosis calling for the burning of the Library of Alexandria in 391 AD (probably the worst loss of history ever), all the looted Egyptian sites and the peeling of the Great Pyramids for structural stone, the Norse sacking the Catholic Churches in Britain. US shelling and leveling of the abbey of Monte Cassino in 1943. The Taliban destroying the Buddhist statues at Bamiyan.

Humans just don't care about other people's beliefs or historical sites. ISIS is bad news because they are doing it just out of intolerance with no strategic advantage to be gained. If not a war crime it is a crime against history. What a tragic loss. I understand the Great Pyramids and Sphinx are on their "must go" list.


Whatever happened to that neutron bomb we supposedly had near ready that destroyed people and not structures? Sounds like we have a good test region.

Yea Charlie P.
I gonna site other examples but unlike you I would have Gotten the Names of Places, People, & the Time lines wrong + 30 min on 'spellcheck' . Def, wanted to point out the Library of Alexandria 's Torching.

IMO Their just a bunch of Thugs with weapons & the run through (like a bunch of Looters Here in the US) the Cities they Occupy .

All this get's too deep for discussion ( Or PC) & As for that Neutron Bomb , I guess a Dirty bomb would work but that would Spoil the Land for way to long. We need a Virus (if it ever could be contained) that would Kill only People ,Roaches, & Rat's.
Or Dare I say Some sort of "Passover Event".
In the End none of this will really matter anyway , I Suppose.

 

[Davers]

I'm still p*ssed about French soldiers shooting the nose off the Sphinx.

I here that was now a Myth. but if it happened I,m pissed still to. lol

 

[Davers]

Sometimes I scratch them pretty bad with my digger.

Don't get me started of 'Striking what I'm digging with the shovel.
I have MANY items Buried for Re-Patina.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

According to the Smithsonian the Sphinx's nose was demolished in 1378 AD by a Sufi Muslim named Muhammad Sa'im al-Dahr. Now there's a surprise!

What happened to the Sphinx?s nose? | Blog

 

[tiburciovasquez]

I think iraq and Syria should have their artifacts temporarily moved. The significance of these sites are beyond enormous as their thought to be one of the birthplaces of humanity. Luckily enough, Palmyra the roman settlement in the Syrian desert wasn't completely destroyed and I think we need a country to send a secret military expedition into Syria to take what's left and then bring it back after the war.
Just my opinion

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Gentlemen, the reason it was blown up is the same as for the Buddas, it conflicts with their religion.