Thanks for the help....I've looked at the eagle designs, some like the fire assurance plates but its just too small and the plates were always round/oval, it also looks like a confederate eagle but its holding onto what looks like lightning and the confederates held arrows, even saw the NRA design which has one claw holding lightning and the other holding a bag but cant find anything that really matches it.
There a roman coin has a more closer version of it so it could have had its design taken from that but i cant find and insigna, motif, badge, plaque, medal, etc anywhere.
It has a line across the backs lower line to about 1/8" high and i believe a slight curve side to side on it as though it was perhaps fixed to soemthing by its bottom edge rear and a circular object but theres nothing out there that matches it, ive looked at maybe 4/5000 images trying to find it.
Just hoping someone had already seen one before so id have a cluse when i take it to my md club meet next month