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I was saying the Jetons we Found have only been Found in the US. Not even the Jeton EXPERT in France where they came from has ever seen them. And as far as the Coin that i posted. I clearly said that it is Very Similar i didnt say it was a match but it has alot of similarities.
He seems like a nice guy and I thanked him for his comments.(going back a few pages)- that professor that was quoted..he lives down the street from me (well...2 miles) - I worked with his daughter at Blockbuster video back around 2000...I crawled around under her barn looking for old bottles once...never met her dad.....Id like to pick his brain......
I like this, Robinsons Fruit Drinks did this with a series K type 33 Saxon Sceat back in the 70's as part of a sales promotion, although these were marked as r1971 indicating that it was a reproduction. But this could explain the amount of Coins/ Fantasy/Tokens that History Hunter, and outhers have found, that have surfaced over the years.I have emailed the seller to see a pic of the backside. View attachment 725391
Here is some info on the Stearns bicycle token. It appears to be different but I wouldnt be surprised if Stearns Hardware E. C. Stearns Bicycle Agency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia minted the Gloria Farley coin.. Stearns dekadrachm token
Stearns dekadrachm token
« on: May 16, 2009, 02:27:24 pm »
Not exactly a 'fake' but I don't know where to post this question:
In 1898, the Stearns Bicycle Co. in Syracuse NY issued an advertising token copying the Syracuse dekadrachm but bearing their company name in Greek and the date in Roman numerals. Recently, I have seen images of these in what is obviously bronze and what appears to be a white metal ('toned' dark). Are both 'original' or do we have fakes of fakes here? Does anyone know the history of these, how they were issued or where one might look for information?
I like this, Robinsons Fruit Drinks did this with a series K type 33 Saxon Sceat back in the 70's as part of a sales promotion, although these were marked as r1971 indicating that it was a reproduction. But this could explain the amount of Coins/ Fantasy/Tokens that History Hunter, and outhers have found, that have surfaced over the years.
UK Finds Database - - - UKDFD
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Bigcypresshunter said:Also the Farley coin is not a fake. Its an authentic token minted in America about 100 years ago. We just dont know why or by whom. I like the Stearn bicycle token idea. It needs follow up research. I just dont think its a jetton. Post the backside and we will take a look.
Its a long way back to page one so Im posting a Farley coin here. The coins found in America are the only variety with the dangling roots supposedly signifying a transplanted civilization. A similar authentic ancient Phoenician coin has the same horse and palm tree but without dangleing roots.
Minoan coins?It looks Manoan to me except it doesn't have proper wear to it. Unless it was preserved in ideal spots
It's just a medallion, made to be worn, copied from a genuine Greek coin....and nothing more. This thread was a great thread from the good old days of TreasureNet.I got this coin in an auction from Goodwill. The obverse is actually more attractive than the picture appears. Only paid $50 for it since I was assuming it was probably fake, but it was interesting. Then I found this thread.
I do have actual ancient Greek coins, so I can make a few partially educated observations. The coin appears to be bronze or similar, but may have had a gold wash at one time. The coin does not appear to be struck, as a real ancient would be, but the surfaces are very even, not porous like cast coins frequently are. The craftsmanship is excellent, and equivalent to the work on the original Siculo-Punic coins that it resembles. However, it is not an exact copy, as the lettering is different, and I did not see in any of my books or online any genuine coins any that have lettering behind the head of Persephone, for example. If the coin is original work, it is extraordinarily well done. Also, it is odd that there are so many varities given the number of Farley coins found. There are no tree roots on the palm tree on mine, for example. The geographic spread of the various finds is also puzzling. I would guess that some craftsman made these coins quite a few years ago, but why would be a mystery.
I miss the old days of TreasureNetIn the old days of TreasureNet, we would have 10-20 replys to this token/medallion, and maybe 10 more pages of arguing. I agree that its a fantasy/copy variety of an ancient coin probably made in North America around the turn of the century maybe as a free giveaway or promotional piece.. As you stated, its not the dangling roots variety. I was only keeping tabs of the dangling roots/transplanted civilization types and labeling them by the state they were found in.. The "lettering" on your medallion screams fantasy and there were many copies made from this coin, and are still made today, although yours may be from a casting mould that we havent yet seen. I would have to search back.
Anything interesting and unusual, made in America 100 years ago, should have interest to collectors. I think $50 was a little high priced but if you can label it as a Farley Coin, it would possibly increase the value. There will always be those that believe these are from authentic Phoenician explorers but as more and more of these medallion/tokens are surfacing, that scenario seems unlikely and the value will go down. Thanks for posting.
Yea me too but looking back and reading some old posts, it appears I was often a jerk and I apologize. But we were all pashionate about our hobby. TN was the cutting edge at the time.I miss the old days of TreasureNet
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I cringe to when I read some of my old postsYea me too but looking back and reading some old posts, it appears I was often a jerk and I apologize. But we were all pashionate about our hobby. TN was the cutting edge at the time.