Button I.D Help...Military? Royal??

[tokenhead]

Hello everybody...I have this button that is about the size of a U.S.Quarter...it reads:viribus unitis 1848 F R Joseph 1(franz joseph the 1st),can't remember the latin(?)...all united?,anyway i'd like to know if it was a military or royal. on the button eagle is holding a sword&septer(military?),opposed to the ones w/septer+orb.recessed,rolled over back,think the outer is silver? Any help will be greatly appreciated,thank's!!!

 

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[Montana Jim]

Francis Joseph (1830-1916) was emperor of Austria and king of Hungary. He was the last noteworthy ruler of the Hapsburg Empire.

Your button looks period... it certainly could have been used for either civilian use or military...

I'll keep looking. Below is his crest and a few pics of his mug.

 

[Mackaydon]

Viribus unitis (Latin = "with united forces")

 

[Mackaydon]

The 1848 date was the year he first became Emperor of Austria.

 

[Montana Jim]

Are you sure that is not TreasureNet Thaddeus?

LOL... Na... You can tell from his "hair, teeth, and eyeballs".

 

[tokenhead]

Viribus unitis (Latin = "with united forces")

Thank-You!!!

 

[tokenhead]

Francis Joseph (1830-1916) was emperor of Austria and king of Hungary. He was the last noteworthy ruler of the Hapsburg Empire.

Your button looks period... it certainly could have been used for either civilian use or military...

I'll keep looking. Below is his crest and a few pics of his mug.

Thank You,i beleive it is period...but do you really think a"civilian" wore this?if so must have been a pretty fancy coat/jacket!,got it in Westfeild,NY.antique shop 15yrs.ago(so it wasn't dug!)wish i had ALBERTS or TICES book!

 

[Montana Jim]

I might be wrong, but, I'm thinking a commemerative button...

It may in fact be a government coat button, but I have no idea... I looked for a long time online.

 

[Kiros32]

Looks like a modern blazer button to me. I found one very similar to it a few years ago.

 

[tokenhead]

Looks like a modern blazer button to me. I found one very similar to it a few years ago.

Got a pic?,i'm pretty sure it's NOT modern...Thanks for input!

 

[tokenhead]

The 1848 date was the year he first became Emperor of Austria.

Correct!...Beause of that MontanaJim(?)may be onto something(commemrative)...

 

[Kiros32]

Looks like a modern blazer button to me. I found one very similar to it a few years ago.

Got a pic?,i'm pretty sure it's NOT modern...Thanks for input!

Here it is. It is modeled after a 1780 Austrian Thaler coin, its similar to yours, but definitely not the same button. Hope yours is an oldie!!!!

 

[DCMatt]

Looks like a modern blazer button to me. I found one very similar to it a few years ago.

Agree. Modern civilian coat button.

I have one, too. Found it in my parents front yard (built 1959).

I'm guessing it is from the 1960's or 70's.

DCMatt

 

[tokenhead]

Looks like a modern blazer button to me. I found one very similar to it a few years ago.

Got a pic?,i'm pretty sure it's NOT modern...Thanks for input!

Here it is. It is modeled after a 1780 Austrian Thaler coin, its similar to yours, but definitely not the same button. Hope yours is an oldie!!!!

Thank You...I DO BELEIVE mine is from the era on button of mine...was from a button collection of a woman who had collected for 80+yrs.all higher end stuff,not that that proves it's old but...I've added some closer(i hope!)pics...red color is refection.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Francis Joseph (1830-1916) was emperor of Austria and king of Hungary. He was the last noteworthy ruler of the Hapsburg Empire.

Your button looks period... it certainly could have been used for either civilian use or military...

I'll keep looking. Below is his crest and a few pics of his mug.

Are you sure that is not TreasureNet Thaddeus?

Looks Close...

 

[BuckleBoy]

Tokenhead, Obviously you can think whatever you want to think about the button. We're trying to help you out here--and you posted in "What is it?" asking for help.


So take it or leave it--but my money is on the "Modern Blazer Button" ID.



-Buckles

 

[tokenhead]

Looks like a modern blazer button to me. I found one very similar to it a few years ago.

Agree. Modern civilian coat button.

I have one, too. Found it in my parents front yard (built 1959).

I'm guessing it is from the 1960's or 70's.

DCMatt

DCMatt you KNOW i cherish&respect your knowledge your right about Kiros32 button it IS a modern blazer button,NOT mine! as alway's,your knowledge is ALWAYS appreciated!

 

[tokenhead]

Tokenhead, Obviously you can think whatever you want to think about the button. We're trying to help you out here--and you posted in "What is it?" asking for help.


So take it or leave it--but my money is on the "Modern Blazer Button" ID.



-Buckles

I meant no DISRESPECT to anybody who has commented...yes i did post looking for help&I.D.I'm not disrespecting anybody's input,just replying w/my thought's,Hey it's only a button!,so if i gave off a disrepectful vibe I APPOLIGIZE,I love this site&am here ONLY to help&get help w/my pile of junk...

 

[CRUSADER]

Looks like a modern blazer button to me. I found one very similar to it a few years ago.

Got a pic?,i'm pretty sure it's NOT modern...Thanks for input!

Here it is. It is modeled after a 1780 Austrian Thaler coin, its similar to yours, but definitely not the same button. Hope yours is an oldie!!!!

Thank You...I DO BELEIVE mine is from the era on button of mine...was from a button collection of a woman who had collected for 80+yrs.all higher end stuff,not that that proves it's old but...I've added some closer(i hope!)pics...red color is refection.

Generally it would be very unusual to produce a coin button with a date similar or near to the time of construction. In simple terms would you wear a 2008 nickle as a button? Not very appealing or fashionable. Much better to copy a 'classic' coin from old, much more of a conversation piece. The idea also stems from when things like Georgian coins were drilled in the Victorian period to make actually coin/buttons. They were not drilled in the Georgian period when the coins had more value & were less worn. Also the Georgians/Victorians copied Roman Coins like Nero for buttons.

Forgetting all of that & looking at the construction gives it away as a 20th century blazer button.

 

[tokenhead]

Looks like a modern blazer button to me. I found one very similar to it a few years ago.

Got a pic?,i'm pretty sure it's NOT modern...Thanks for input!

Here it is. It is modeled after a 1780 Austrian Thaler coin, its similar to yours, but definitely not the same button. Hope yours is an oldie!!!!

Thank You...I DO BELEIVE mine is from the era on button of mine...was from a button collection of a woman who had collected for 80+yrs.all higher end stuff,not that that proves it's old but...I've added some closer(i hope!)pics...red color is refection.

Generally it would be very unusual to produce a coin button with a date similar or near to the time of construction. In simple terms would you wear a 2008 nickle as a button? Not very appealing or fashionable. Much better to copy a 'classic' coin from old, much more of a conversation piece. The idea also stems from when things like Georgian coins were drilled in the Victorian period to make actually coin/buttons. They were not drilled in the Georgian period when the coins had more value & were less worn. Also the Georgians/Victorians copied Roman Coins like Nero for buttons.

Forgetting all of that & looking at the construction gives it away as a 20th century blazer button.

Based on your info. i LEAN corrected,it's a blazer button! not military/royal...Thank's so much for your input!,early or late 20th.century? i would give it to ANY button collector if needed...Thank's all!