Captain Kidd Treasure In Rhode Island?

[ISmellGold]

Interesting article

Interesting Article

Coins In A Kettle. Interesting

 

[Old Bookaroo]

Interesting article
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Coins In A Kettle. Interesting

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[ISmellGold]

Interesting I had not heard this story of Gardiner Iland New York

Privateer William Kidd stopped at the island in June 1699 while sailing to Boston to answer charges of piracy. With the permission of the island's proprietor, he buried a chest, a box of gold, and two boxes of silver in a ravine between Bostwick's Point and the Manor House. Indicating to Mrs. Gardiner that the box of gold was intended for the Governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, Lord Bellomont, Kidd gave Mrs. Gardiner a length of gold cloth,[11] captured from a Moorish ship off the coast of India,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardiners_Island#cite_note-14 and a sack of sugar in thanks for her hospitality.

A legend developed that Kidd warned that if the treasure was not there when he returned he would kill the Gardiners, though trial testimony given by John Gardiner on July 17, 1699, makes no mention of any threats, and Kidd's conduct appears to have been quite civil.[13] Kidd was tried in Boston, and Gardiner was ordered by Governor Bellomont to deliver the treasure as evidence. The booty included gold dust, bars of silver, Spanish dollars, rubies, diamonds, candlesticks, and porringers. Gardiner kept one of the diamonds which he later gave to his daughter. A plaque on the island marks the spot where the treasure was buried.[14][15][16]

I Doubt it Happened though.
Peeling The Onion

 

[ISmellGold]

When a TN Member posts a newspaper cutting, it's always helpful to include the name of the paper and the date it was published.

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Somebody else posted it first in a different Kidd Thread.
I just found it really interesting
Looks Like a Providence Rhode Island newspaper? from the article sounds like 1888.

As far as he Gardiner Island story, to me sounds laughable.

 

[Old Bookaroo]

Somebody else posted it first in a different Kidd Thread.
I just found it really interesting
Looks Like a Providence Rhode Island newspaper? from the article sounds like 1888.

As far as he Gardiner Island story, to me sounds laughable.

I find the Gardiner Island treasure to make a great deal of sense. It is well documented.

It is far more believable yarns about Capt. Kidd using a treasure map to attempt to gain his freedom.

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo

 

[ISmellGold]

I find the Gardiner Island treasure to make a great deal of sense. It is well documented.

It is far more believable yarns about Capt. Kidd using a treasure map to attempt to gain his freedom.

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo

Who knows? What the real story was. You may be right the whole story may be fabricated. or just conjecture by some random observer.

It seems that a lot of "Kidds" exploits and credentials are. 1700 was a long time ago.

Personaly looking back at it and researching it. Seems Kidd was hanging more around Massatusetes and Rhode Island than New York.
Interesting

Execution of Captain Kidd​

The pirate William Kidd was executed in London on 23 May 1701.
Richard Cavendish | Published in History Today Volume 51 Issue 5 May 2001

Captain Kidd, executed for piracy in 1701.
William Kidd spent his last days on earth in Newgate Gaol, where on Sunday 18 May 1701, he heard his final sermon, preached by the prison chaplain on the cheerful text, ‘For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ.’ Kidd still hoped for a reprieve, and the others who had been condemned with him for piracy received it – all except one, an Irishman named Darby Mullins. On the afternoon of 23 May, they were taken, with two Frenchmen who were also to die, from Newgate in two horse-drawn carts, guarded by marshals and led by the Admiralty Marshal and the silver oar which was the Admiralty’s symbol. To the chaplain’s shocked disapproval, Kidd was the worse for drink. At five o’clock, low tide, they reached Execution Dock at Wapping, a few yards below Wapping Old Stairs, in the presence of a large and lively crowd. There was a permanent gallows for pirates there and after the hanging the corpses were customarily chained to a post on the foreshore, where they were left until three tides had flowed over them, as an example.
Kidd spoke to the crowd, warning all ship-masters to learn from his fate. Then the four men were turned off, but Kidd’s rope snapped and he fell to the ground with the noose round his neck, still alive and dazed. The pestering chaplain prayed over him once more and he was hoisted up again, and that was that. His body was taken to be hanged in chains at Tilbury Point.
Kidd was in his mid-fifties when he died. The line between piracy and government-sponsored privateering was narrow and he does not seem to have been the typical swashbuckling pirate of popular fiction. He did not maroon anyone or make people walk the plank, but legends clustered round him which turned him into a name to conjure with. A Scot by birth, from Greenock on the Clyde and according to tradition the son of a Presbyterian minister, he emerges into history in 1689 as a buccaneer in the Caribbean. A doughty fighter, a fine seaman and evidently a man of some presence, he turned into a privateer captain in British service, sent to pillage French settlements in the West Indies. He acquired a well-to-do wife and property in New York City.
Kidd was in London in 1696, when he set off on the voyage that was to be his undoing. He left Deptford in February in his ship Adventure Galley of 287 tons and 34 guns – probably a cross between a sailing ship and an oared galley – with a government commission to suppress pirates in the Indian Ocean. It took him almost a year to reach Madagascar and the East African coast and he then thought it more profitable to turn pirate himself. Hoisting the blood-red flag, or French colours when it suited him, he captured several merchant ships and in a furious rage when his crew were on the verge of mutiny, he struck his ship’s gunner, William Moore, with an iron-bound bucket, ‘laying him in his gore’ as the popular ballad had it. Moore’s skull was fractured and he died within twenty-four hours.
In January 1698 Kidd seized a valuable ship of 400 tons, the Quedah Merchant, on her way from Bengal round the southern tip of India, carrying silk, muslin, calico, sugar and opium. A substantial part of the cargo belonged to one of the Mughal Emperor’s courtiers and there were Armenian merchants on board. With what was now his own little flotilla, Kidd presently sailed for the West Indies, arriving in April 1699 to discover that the government had proclaimed him a pirate. He left the Quedah at the island of Hispaniola, where she was unloaded and subsequently burned, bought a small ship called the Antonio and sailed to Boston, where he tried to convince the British governor, the Earl of Bellomont, that he was innocent of the accusations against him. Bellomont had him arrested and sent back to England, where on 16 April 1700, it was recorded that ‘the notorious pyratt’ was examined before the Lords of Admiralty and committed to Newgate. Later in the month rumour had it that jewels found on Kidd’s ship had been valued at £30,000 (perhaps equivalent to some £10 million today). After further lengthy enquiries by the Admiralty, on 8 and 9 May 1701, at the Old Bailey Kidd was tried for the murder of Moore and on multiple counts of piracy, and found guilty. Nine members of his crew were in the dock with him on the piracy charges. Whether the evidence was convincing and the trial fair has been debated ever since.
Kidd became a legendary figure largely because no one ever discovered what had happened to the rest of his treasure – if there really was any more to be found. Its value multiplied as time went by and treasure-hunters have searched for his loot from the Americas to the South China Sea, but so far in vain.

Interesting, Who knows? I have heard accounts that Kidd wasn't hanged by England but by the East India Company.
Just a lot of dicrepencies in "Captain Kidds Story"

Honestly if there is any gold/silver out there associated with Captain Kidd or any of his associates. My guess is the remainder of it is probably in Rhode Island somewhere, most likely around Newport.

Good Luck

 

[ISmellGold]

Hey someone was there Middletown Rhode Island?

Find of a Lifetime.. 1662 “Oak Tree” two pence

MIDDLETOWN — A Warwick man searching in Middletown with a metal detector recently found one of the Holy Grails of early American coins: An exceedingly rare specimen minted by the Massachusetts Bay Colony more than 340 years ago. The 1662 “Oak Tree” two pence, minted in Boston, predates the...

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[57Medic]

Hey someone was there Middletown Rhode Island?

Find of a Lifetime.. 1662 “Oak Tree” two pence

MIDDLETOWN — A Warwick man searching in Middletown with a metal detector recently found one of the Holy Grails of early American coins: An exceedingly rare specimen minted by the Massachusetts Bay Colony more than 340 years ago. The 1662 “Oak Tree” two pence, minted in Boston, predates the...

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I have been around these parts, actually recovered a grapeshot from most likely British warships during the blockade of Newport Harbor.

Regarding Pirateers in general, there is a wealth of information regarding pirates during thei heyday. There are many wrecks close to shore from their ships. If interested, the book "Black sails blue water"

They were actually treated As dignitaries and welcomed to towns as they brought gods from around the world that the locals were unable to source otherwise.

 

[ISmellGold]

Actually probably to a lesser extent you coulfd probably put the Islands around Rhode Island in play.
Marthas Vineyard?

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[ISmellGold]

I have been around these parts, actually recovered a grapeshot from most likely British warships during the blockade of Newport Harbor.

Regarding Pirateers in general, there is a wealth of information regarding pirates during thei heyday. There are many wrecks close to shore from their ships. If interested, the book "Black sails blue water"

They were actually treated As dignitaries and welcomed to towns as they brought gods from around the world that the locals were unable to source otherwise.

Interesting, Just never studied it that close, a lot of stuff isn't in the history books. You kind of have to dig around and put it together yourself. To me it looks like the Colonies must of been giving England fits before the Revolutionary war.
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Just mostely messing around, but I truelly think there might be something burried in Rhode Island,
Where? not too sure. Most likey around Newport, Possibly Middletown?

I could possibly narrow it down & give you a few spots if someone is interested.
I am on the West Coast, So No Bueno For Me.

 

[ISmellGold]

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There is definitely something there

I can smell it
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[FreeBirdTim]

1600's tree shillings are found on a fairly regular basis in RI and MA. To link any of them to buried treasure would be wishful thinking, in my opinion...

 

[BennyV]

If memory serves me correctly there were some Middle Eastern silver coins found in either Mass or RI. I can’t find the thread.

 

[Goldisland]

Interesting, Just never studied it that close, a lot of stuff isn't in the history books. You kind of have to dig around and put it together yourself. To me it looks like the Colonies must of been giving England fits before the Revolutionary war.
🤣
Just mostely messing around, but I truelly think there might be something burried in Rhode Island,
Where? not too sure. Most likey around Newport, Possibly Middletown?

I could possibly narrow it down & give you a few spots if someone is interested.
I am on the West Coast, So No Bueno For Me.

 

[Goldisland]

Hey, I live in Middletown! Would love to hear your thoughts on areas to search! 🏴‍☠️

 

[ISmellGold]

Hey, I live in Middletown! Would love to hear your thoughts on areas to search! 🏴‍☠️

I'll get back to you. Haven't thought about the subject in awhile.

 

[ISmellGold]

Hey, I live in Middletown! Would love to hear your thoughts on areas to search! 🏴‍☠️

Ok, what did you find? Come on let it out, your dying to tell me, Wheres my cut?🤣
You can pm me if you want. I'll send you my Venmo number🤣
Big hit?

 

[Goldisland]

So far, I found a couple bottle tabs and some beer caps……. Still waiting to hear about your suggested spots!

 

[ISmellGold]

So far, I found a couple bottle tabs and some beer caps……. Still waiting to hear about your suggested spots!

I'll take 2 beer tabs and a bottle cap.🤣

So your looking for the Treasure of the 2 Frenchmen, Aye?


I cooled on Middletown

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The treasure is in East Greenwich
I can smell it

 

[ISmellGold]

So far, I found a couple bottle tabs and some beer caps……. Still waiting to hear about your suggested spots!

How is the treasure hunt going?