Civil War era Buckle marked C F J

[Breezie]

Hey Gang, I found this buckle B.S. (before snow ) in an area that has produced finds from Rev.War/Civil War up to V Nickels. It is 1" long, brass and is marked C . F . J . with the dots spaced apart. I found one almost identical to it in Howard Crouch's book, and he states: A typical suspender buckle of the Civil War era. Actually 1" long, this specimen is gilted brass and marked "Paris" and "1854."[ I haven't been able to find out any information on the CFJ company. All help and ideas would be appreciated. Breezie

 

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[kyphote]

Wow, what a rarity! I've gone through every book and can't find a thing. This will be fun.

 

[Breezie]

Wow, what a rarity! I've gone through every book and can't find a thing. This will be fun.

Kyphote, fun or a headache! Breezie

 

[Jeff H]

Brezzie, I have a nearly identical piece dated 1855. I don't see other markings on mine though. I recall seeing similar pieces identified as hosiery clips rather than suspender clips. May have been on a different forum. I'll see if I can locate it.

 

[ModernMiner]

Very cool buckle Breezie.
I was just looking through Crouch's book again yesterday. Seems like every time I look in that book I recognize something.
Hopefully you find out what/who CFJ was.
-MM-

 

[Breezie]

Very cool buckle Breezie.
I was just looking through Crouch's book again yesterday. Seems like every time I look in that book I recognize something.
Hopefully you find out what/who CFJ was.
-MM-

Hey MM neighbor,
Thanks for the kudos on the buckle. I'm thinking this buckle must be an import, and probably French because of the one in Crouch's book. His book is my favorite for CW relics, not like Warman's which I think is a total waste of paper. Breezie

 

[kyphote]

Another good one: Civil War Relics of the Western Campaigns, 1861-1865 by Harris

 

[tuatara]

Hi Breezie,

Good news is that at least you've got something different because those 'Paris' ones or dates ones are very common. Bad news is that manufacturing companies are very difficult to ID because of poor records in that area. I have one suspender (?)buckle marked 'British' and 'Sword' with pictorial trade mark of crossed swords. Could not find any info about it either.

 

[vayank54]

There are many manufacturers and dates on these types of buckles. They may not actually be suspender buckles as this is the same type that would have been used on the adjustment straps on pant's or vests. Still a cool find

 

[Breezie]

Hi Breezie,

Good news is that at least you've got something different because those 'Paris' ones or dates ones are very common.Good point! Bad news is that manufacturing companies are very difficult to ID because of poor records in that area. I guess CW era 'whatever' brass buckle is our ID.I have one suspender (?)buckle marked 'British' and 'Sword' with pictorial trade mark of crossed swords. Could not find any info about it either.

Thanks ya'll for post and help! Breezie

 

[chipveres]

If you Google "suspenders" "Paris" this pops up:

www.suspenders.com/jacquard-history.htm


I'm guessing that CFJ may be Companie Francais Jacquard.


Chip V.

 

[Breezie]

If you Google "suspenders" "Paris" this pops up:

www.suspenders.com/jacquard-history.htm


I'm guessing that CFJ may be Companie Francais Jacquard.


Chip V.

Wooooo-Hooooo, nice work Chip!!! Thanks, Breezie

 

[CRUSADER]

There are many manufacturers and dates on these types of buckles. They may not actually be suspender buckles as this is the same type that would have been used on the adjustment straps on pant's or vests. Still a cool find

Agreed, a type with many uses & a large time frame - WWI era would not surprise me!

 

[Breezie]

author=CRUSADER- WWI era would not surprise me!

Thanks CRU for the post, but somebuddy has to break that news to Howard Crouch . . Breezie

 

[CRUSADER]

author=CRUSADER- WWI era would not surprise me!

Thanks CRU for the post, but somebuddy has to break that news to Howard Crouch . . Breezie

I own a library of books & know of many errors in many of them. Experience rules....(I have found many of these types, no CW over here!), plus they turn up all over the world.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

CW period and later. http://www.149thbucktails.com/DU013_lg.jpg

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,256341.0.html

 

[Silver Searcher]

As Crusader says....A wide date range for these type of Buckle, but I believe the one on the top right is identical to yours, and does indeed date to late 19th, early 20th c

SS

 

[kuger]

There are many manufacturers and dates on these types of buckles. They may not actually be suspender buckles as this is the same type that would have been used on the adjustment straps on pant's or vests. Still a cool find

Ah!"V",ya beat me again!!!Yes they were slack tightners on the back of pants!!!

 

[kuger]

carbine sling buckle & tip

A carbine (pronounced /ˈkɑrbaɪn/ or /ˈkɑrbiːn/[1]) is a firearm similar to a rifle or musket

Civil War rifle sling buckles
http://www.rollanet.org/~stacyw/civil_war_sling.htm

"3298 U.S. M1916 Barracks Cleaning Rod Used with M1903 and later with M1917 rifles. Aluminum handle is egg or football shaped (with small reinforceding bulge near center) and solide rod, not three sections with screw joints. Rod is copper plated steel, with tip turned down to serve as patch holder. Exposed steel rusted from careless storage, but basically unissued. $20.00 "

No these are not musket sling buckles,way too small.I know for a fact they date at least to the 1850's,I also have pictures of them on pants

 

[Breezie]

Looks like a green check is needed for this post. THANKS to all . . YOU are the bomb! Breezie