Diggers

[Diggin4nails]

I just want to she if anyone else love the show Diggers Juiced on National Geographic. Man I love this show.

 

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[pete4638]

You have hit on something there. " ..it wouldn't appeal to the general public." The gun shows on cable do not appeal to the general public, but they don't run around like a pack of circus clowns in an attempt to up the ratings. People are almost universally intrigued by archeology and history, especially when they can put their hands on it. I remember standing there with old man when we found a box of lead toy soldiers that belonged to his father who has buried and lost them over 100 years ago. His dad has scratched his initial on the base of every single soldier.

Two days later the old guy walked out of Kellyco in Longwood with a new metal detector and spent the rest of his life digging his neck of the woods. He found more artifacts and coins and discovered more interesting sites than anyone that I have ever known. He never acted like a moron.

Pete

I was referring to detecting shows...I would watch a detecting show with no antics but it wouldn't appeal to the general public...Im glad they are doing it their way so at least I have a detecting show to watch...there is no right or wrong way to act as long as your having fun and not hurting anyone or anything and there is no proof Diggers has hurt anything.

 

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[montanagold]

It you think that these guys are the best that that this hobby can produce, then embrace it. If you allow your standards to be set by some hack reality TV show producer then you are going to go through life skipping over some very low bars. Are you suggesting that this show could not be a whole lot better if the emphasis were placed on: equipment, technology, research, and good technique instead of a couple of buffoons running around screaming "roundness," "nectar" and so on? And I'm not even going to get into their silly end of the show pie in the face BS.

Well, you seem to have it all figured out. Good for you. You forget that the tv is nothing more than entertainment. Break it down however you want but that's all it is. And as long as the masses are pleased with the entertainment value then the grumpy old purists like yourself will surly lose. Sorry to put in such simple analogy for you but it's really not much more than that. Your rantings don't do much but help the show and team ATC thanks you for your support. Tell you what pm me your address and I'll send you an official team ATC T shirt and a token for all your help.

 

[pete4638]

Dummies? You saw nothing Monty Pythonesque about my comments? Come on, you cannot be that obtuse! You didn't make the connection between a couple of buffoons sticking blades into the ground and finding a landmine and you actually believed that there are H-bombs buried at Custer's old camp? Come on, close your eyes and picture John Cleese with his metal detector looking for treasure in a clearly marked minefield. I know you can do it! Maybe not.

I don't want any harm to come to King George and his sidekick. I just wish that they would go back to their previous day jobs instead of making those presenting those of us who enjoy this hobby as a vacuous morons.

Maybe I am beginning to understand why this show is popular with some people.

Pete

You beat me to it! I deal with dummies all day in my line of work and I have learned to be tolerant.

 

[montanagold]

Dummies? You saw nothing Monty Pythonesque about my comments? Come on, you cannot be that obtuse! You didn't make the connection between a couple of buffoons sticking blades into the ground and finding a landmine and you actually believed that there are H-bombs buried at Custer's old camp? Come on, close your eyes and picture John Cleese with his metal detector looking for treasure in a clearly marked minefield. I know you can do it! Maybe not. I don't want any harm to come to King George and his sidekick. I just wish that they would go back to their previous day jobs instead of making those presenting those of us who enjoy this hobby as a vacuous morons. Maybe I am beginning to understand why this show is popular with some people. Pete

You kinda love yourself, don't you? I don't even think you know what your spewing from your thoughts.

 

[bottlecap]

You forget that the tv is nothing more than entertainment.

It is but I sure don't mind learning something while watching it.

 

[lookindown]

Come on - grow a sense of humor. Do you really think that there are any lost land mines at Custer's old camp or stray five-megaton H-bombs lying around at the Little Bighorn? Honestly, you didn't pick up on any of that? My day is right now, just like yours. The guys on Diggers are clowns. They do nothing to promote the hobby. I remember when no respectful archeologist would allow a metal detector on a dig. It took years to convince the archeological community that people with metal detectors could make a contribution to a dig. That did not happen by letting people like King George and his sidekick on a site. If you like these guys for their entertainment value - fine; I don't care. I'm really happy for them that they thought that they found everything that fell out of Custer's pockets in the days leading up to the battle at the Little Bighorn. Pete

You sure they don't do anything to promote the hobby?...You didn't see the picture of them at the school with kids holding detectors? You made some bad comments about hoping they get hurt and when you got negative replies about it you started back pedaling. Don't back pedal...either stand up for what you said or apologize...I think you honestly believe that the way you do things is the right way and only way.

 

[jeff of pa]

Every time King George puts a blade in the ground I keep hoping for him to hit a landmine or a box of discarded blasting caps.

Come on - grow a sense of humor. Do you really think that there are any lost land mines at Custer's old camp or stray five-megaton H-bombs lying around at the Little Bighorn? Honestly, you didn't pick up on any of that? My day is right now, just like yours. The guys on Diggers are clowns. They do nothing to promote the hobby. I remember when no respectful archeologist would allow a metal detector on a dig. It took years to convince the archeological community that people with metal detectors could make a contribution to a dig. That did not happen by letting people like King George and his sidekick on a site. If you like these guys for their entertainment value - fine; I don't care. I'm really happy for them that they thought that they found everything that fell out of Custer's pockets in the days leading up to the battle at the Little Bighorn. Pete

Maybe not bombs lying around, But there are Blasting Caps, Especially in areas where there was Mining. Back in 2000 I dug one. & yes I did chop into it due to hard ground. Not knowing what it was I showed it to several people, wondered what the Pasty Powder in it was , etc. till someone who actually worked in a mine told me it was an antique Blasting Cap see fuse cap



Yes I believe the danger is Exaggerated, and that it is like a black kat fire cracker,
except it's metal. But could be there. as far as a Sense of Humor, Yea I got one & get it, but not everyone does And to be honest , I don't wish anyone , especially a public figure hits a Blasting cap while detecting. Even "Boombie Baby" as a joke. The backlash could make detecing illegal, or at least scare many landowners enough to fear lawsuits

 

[wvplug]

Like most things I think Diggers is both good and bad. I think from a general public aspect it probably isn't so much of a bad thing. Yeah it has corny, over the top entertainment but that is what TV is all about these days and people wouldn't watch it otherwise. It promotes the hobby to the masses that could otherwise care less and perhaps gets them thinking about the possible value of detecting from a historical point of view. I think it stirs that sense of adventure for the average arm chair treasure hunter.

For the rest of us we can derive a sort of comic relief from it and laugh like monkeys at the antics of these cartoonish hams that freakout every time the machine is turned on and since they get to dig so many really nice sites, I like to see the types of things they do uncover. I have probably only watched half a dozen or less episodes and only once did I see them actually do some semi-quantitative digging. I would like to see more quantitative sampling and better record keeping at least within those pristine historical areas that only they seem to gain access to and I find it surprising that those who grant them permission don't require it.

Enjoy it for what it is worth. Sit back, laugh and enjoy your favorite beverage.

 

[wvplug]

I've recently got reason to believe
from a good source, some of their finds are Planted.

it's Hard to believe, since most of their finds are not really amazing.

But I heard they (or production) approached a land owner requesting permission
to plant some finds for the show.

I didn't ask for more details

I don't find this hard to believe and actually I would be surprised if it didn't happen. "Reality" TV is, afterall, heavily scripted.

 

[lookindown]

Like most things I think Diggers is both good and bad. I think from a general public aspect it probably isn't so much of a bad thing. Yeah it has corny, over the top entertainment but that is what TV is all about these days and people wouldn't watch it otherwise. It promotes the hobby to the masses that could otherwise care less and perhaps gets them thinking about the possible value of detecting from a historical point of view. I think it stirs that sense of adventure for the average arm chair treasure hunter. For the rest of us we can derive a sort of comic relief from it and laugh like monkeys at the antics of these cartoonish hams that freakout every time the machine is turned on and since they get to dig so many really nice sites, I like to see the types of things they do uncover. I have probably only watched half a dozen or less episodes and only once did I see them actually do some semi-quantitative digging. I would like to see more quantitative sampling and better record keeping at least within those pristine historical areas that only they seem to gain access to and I find it surprising that those who grant them permission don't require it. Enjoy it for what it is worth. Sit back, laugh and enjoy your favorite beverage.

They have an archeologist with them on every hunt and everything is documented.

 

[montanagold]

It's all extremely well documented, they have an archeologist at every site. That is why you will sometimes see flags. They film the finding and reaction but the item goes back in the hole till it gets documented. It's really quite a bit of work and I've only been on a few filming ventures. I can't believe kg and rm haven't lost their minds yet, lol or maybe they have:0)

 

[jeff of pa]

It's all extremely well documented, they have an archeologist at every site. That is why you will sometimes see flags. They film the finding and reaction but the item goes back in the hole till it gets documented. It's really quite a bit of work and I've only been on a few filming ventures. I can't believe kg and rm haven't lost their minds yet, lol or maybe they have:0)

to be honest it would ruin it for me.
one of the main reasons I like detecting is,
it is not like a job.
I can stop for the day any time I feel like it.
and if i find something really cool, I know it is Mine

 

[montanagold]

The not keeping what I found would kill me to. They have been able to keep a very small amount if stuff through the seasons, Tim's first belt plate he had to barter with a land owner for a detector:0) they were able to keep the gold coin also because the owners had already found one there.

 

[bottlecap]

I can't believe kg and rm haven't lost their minds yet, lol or maybe they have:0)

BINGO

 

[CASPER-2]

I've recently got reason to believe from a good source, some of their finds are Planted. it's Hard to believe, since most of their finds are not really amazing. But I heard they (or production) approached a land owner requesting permission to plant some finds for the show. I didn't ask for more details

I WAS UNDER CONTRACT TO DO AN UNDERWATER SHOW - WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE SHOW IN DEPTH - THEY SAID IF I COULD NOT PRODUCE THE "WOW" FACTOR - OR ENOUGH OF A WOW - THEY WOULD TAKE AMTTERS INTO THEIR HANDS (WHICH MEANT THEY WOULD PLANT STUFF) - I SAID NO WAY - SO EVEN THOUGH I SIGNED A CONTRACT - THEY JUST ASKED ME A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS AND PICKED MY BRAIN

THING IS - THAT YEAR WAS ONE OF MY BEST - I FOUND 72 GOLD RINGS AND ALOT OF SILVER JEWELRY AND COINS IN THE WATER ALONG WITH SOME NICE RELICS HERE AND THERE - HAD THEY SHOT WITH ME - IT WOULD HAVE BEEN REAL AND WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD
BUT TOLD THEM ALSO - NOT SOMETHING ID WANT TO DO CONSTANTLY - I ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED OTHERS FROM HERE AND TOLD THEM
I WOULD NOT HAVE MINDED BEING A GUEST

 

[christo000]

I remember u talkin about this

 

[Msbeepbeep]

Hollywood and real life seldom fit together well there are always loose ends.
Take the good leave the bad and hope for the best.
I for one blame WINTER for this tangle of opinions! We would all be out detecting if it wasn't for winter! Blame WINTER!
I for one am going detecting today, frozen ground or not, don't care, I'm getting out there and detecting, even if I wind up detecting the snow piles! Peace fellow MD'ers may you find the mother load of what ever you seek, and may you get to keep it! GL. HH!
Maybe latter someone can tell me how to post pic of what ever I come home with. I'm soooo excited to get out!!!!!!!

 

[digbattles]

Yes they do have an archaeologist on site, BUT THEY NEVER SHOW THEM ON THE AIR. Unfortunately their methods of documentation and artifact analysis have been very poor. Now to answer a few questions that popped up while I was away. Yes I am an Archie, BUT I started as a relic hunter in 1972. Can you say BFO?? I was a charter member of the FMDAC (Federation of Metal Detecting and Archaeology Clubs). Worked closely with Dick Stout on helping to promote this hobby. I am offended by Diggers as a METAL DETECTORIST. They make us all look STUPID - especially their "DICTIONARY". When was the last time you called a site "NECTAR"?? For those of you who don't like the show, I found this online petition:

http://www.change.org/petitions/the...tm_medium=email&utm_campaign=petition_created

NOTE: I AM NOT INVOLVED WITH THE PETITION.

AND SO WHAT IF I AM AN ARCHAEOLOGIST?? I have been working very successfully to bring the two groups together. Even though I cannot keep what I find, I get to metal detect in some VERY COOL sites. So get over it!

 

[christo000]

Really ur not involved with the pettion but yet you post a,link for it, I think its really just goin to far its a tv show for something to watch on tv I don't think its purpose was to tell people how to detect but a couple guys having fun so what they have names for stuff wow if ur really getti affended over the language they use sounds like ur pretty bored with urself & are just looking for anything, & I guarantee a lot of people out here do get excited when they find something great I dought when u pull that gold ring out of the ground u say oh ok gold ring pocket done ill bet ur jumping up & down with excitment. Either way the petition thing that's rediculus there are so many other things in this world people should be signing petitions for & getting angry about other then a frigin tv show pretty lame

 

[montanagold]

Yes they do have an archaeologist on site, BUT THEY NEVER SHOW THEM ON THE AIR. Unfortunately their methods of documentation and artifact analysis have been very poor. Now to answer a few questions that popped up while I was away. Yes I am an Archie, BUT I started as a relic hunter in 1972. Can you say BFO?? I was a charter member of the FMDAC (Federation of Metal Detecting and Archaeology Clubs). Worked closely with Dick Stout on helping to promote this hobby. I am offended by Diggers as a METAL DETECTORIST. They make us all look STUPID - especially their "DICTIONARY". When was the last time you called a site "NECTAR"?? For those of you who don't like the show, I found this online petition: http://www.change.org/petitions/the-national-geographic-channel-the-travel-channel-spike-tv-stop-airing-their-digger-programs-3?utm_source=guides&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=petition_created NOTE: I AM NOT INVOLVED WITH THE PETITION. AND SO WHAT IF I AM AN ARCHAEOLOGIST?? I have been working very successfully to bring the two groups together. Even though I cannot keep what I find, I get to metal detect in some VERY COOL sites. So get over it!

Bwhahaha!! The two groups don't need to be brought together. They are two very different things. I'm not going to go detect someone's yard and ensure that I document every find so as not to lose its context. I could care less about its context. Sure, there are sites that need that sort of thing but not the sites I detect. Archie's think that all sites should be off limits to the hobby and will never change their minds so how are you working to promote this hobby? Everything you said makes no sense and is probably the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. The only thing that petitions do is give ammo to the politicians to ban detecting all together. (Which is what you want anyway) I'm sorry that your feelings got hurt at the meeting with nat geo but you should probably drop it, it's been a long time and nobody needs to hold a grudge that long. Just go back to digging up bodies or what ever archeologists do.