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[Tesorodeoro]

There are those that have gifts. A Partners wife was a gold witch. She would point out a window in my vehicle at a rock. There is a gold nugget under that rock. Get out of the vehicle to look. A nugget. This happened a thousand times. There was something evil about the whole thing. Got away from them. If she was holding a fork and got angry the fork would distort into a twisted mess. I did not care how much gold she could find it was not worth it. She did map dowsing too. She ended up trying to put a death curse on me. Had a shaman remove it. I'm still here and she is not. Never thought to have her look at the Dents Run map. She just knew things. Creepy.

You lost me there with that one, but I’m glad you escaped from that evil situation. I’ve witnessed my dad tell me there will be a rusted iron pipe 6” deep with a 90 elbow here and it will be plugged with iron scale. You will be able to pound on the elbow and clear the sprinkler. He was using rusted baling wire and we cut a 6” dia. sod plug and found an elbow 6” down. Sprinkler was fixed and we moved on. Not the first time that sort of stuff happened. But someone pointing out thousands of times which stone was covering nuggets..? Could that be an exaggeration? I’ve been know to enjoy the best of stories. I do agree though. My dad is a natural finder. He”s got a gift.

 

[dowser]

I joined "Find a Dowser" around 2005.
I got contacted by an older couple from Indiana, to drive down from Michigan and Dowse for a lost treasure.
Civil war Gold was moved thru the area and supposedly stashed.
I drove down, met them, showed them that Dowsing power was on signaling with Iron for Iron I had brought.
I Dowsed for a Gold signal, and nothing within reach signaled back.
They saw and believed, and there was no Gold treasure, at that time.
The only difference from Dents run, to the Indiana spot was, no Gold was signaled/ Dowsed in Indiana!

 

[sgtfda]

Damm more storm cells heading my way then onto Globe. They keep getting hit over and over with major flooding. A real reverse flush. Clean get flooded. Clean up get flooded over and over. The rain is moving a lot of gold out here in the desert. No rain for a year then record amounts in one week. Glad I chose a house where I did. Last week it rained so hard it was knocking birds out of the sky. My pool had several floaters. I'd like to see some dowsers take a stab at Bell Draft area. The guy who now runs the Electroscope company tried his hand with no luck. He was with Jack and went around the border of our search area. Jack was showing him where to point it.

 

[sgtfda]

I learned not to discount anything in my life I've witnessed some strange s*it over the years.

 

[Tesorodeoro]

Damm more storm cells heading my way then onto Globe. They keep getting hit over and over with major flooding. A real reverse flush. Clean get flooded. Clean up get flooded over and over. The rain is moving a lot of gold out here in the desert. No rain for a year then record amounts in one week. Glad I chose a house where I did. Last week it rained so hard it was knocking birds out of the sky. My pool had several floaters. I'd like to see some dowsers take a stab at Bell Draft area. The guy who now runs the Electroscope company tried his hand with no luck. He was with Jack and went around the border of our search area. Jack was showing him where to point it.

Interesting story. My dad was for a very short time an Electroscope (By Thomas) dealer and as a family we ran several blind tests. My dad was able to get signals on large amounts of gold we hid but he could not see or interpret what we were seeing looking over his shoulder.

Turns out, the scope was complete bunk as far as we were concerned and it worked the same with no battery and filter. The electronics were a scam. It was just a dowsing rod with a couple switches and lights powered by a 9 volt battery. True story. Has my dad found treasure with it? No, but 20 edit: 30-35 years? later with no batteries he could find a lost pocket knife on a hillside with it. Weird stuff.

 

[Tesorodeoro]

By the way Jeff, the Bering Sea Gold show is VERY LOOSELY based on reality. Yes they are dredging for gold and they recovered an amount of gold. Aside from that, it’s an entertainment production.

How do I know? My brother operated one of the larger barge excavators featured on the show as well as during the night shift for several summers (yes they had a night shift).

Sorry, it’s a heavily scripted show including all of the gold clean ups.

 

[sgtfda]

Back in the day John was trying to track down a story a local tavern owner had one of the gold bars. You hit one of those remote areas you hear stories from those that live there if they like you. I always have a positive outlook and do not tell folks bullshit. When I arrived in Arizona I attended the Dutchhunter Rendezvous at Dons Camp. When the old timers found out I had Ismael's deep seeking one of a kind detector they started pulling me aside to tell me about the hidden treasure in the Superstitions. Years later some of that treasure is showing up. More than I will talk about. A negative attitude gets you nowhere. I've held more than one piece. This piece of ore I'm holding

has 30 oz of gold in it.

 

[sgtfda]

By the way Jeff, the Bering Sea Gold show is VERY LOOSELY based on reality. Yes they are dredging for gold and they recovered an amount of gold. Aside from that, it’s an entertainment production.

How do I know? My brother operated one of the larger barge excavators featured on the show as well as during the night shift for several summers (yes they had a night shift).

Sorry, it’s a heavily scripted show including all of the gold clean ups.

I may know your brother. A lot of those guys are friends. We are all members of the same I got screwed by reality TV club. We compare notes.

 

[jeff of pa]

By the way Jeff, the Bering Sea Gold show is VERY LOOSELY based on reality. Yes they are dredging for gold and they recovered an amount of gold. Aside from that, it’s an entertainment production.

How do I know? My brother operated one of the larger barge excavators featured on the show as well as during the night shift for several summers (yes they had a night shift).

Sorry, it’s a heavily scripted show including all of the gold clean ups.

Yea up to the Last 2 Seasons I watched it Regularly.
I Hated Zeke after his friend Supposedly killed Himself..
After Zekes Bragging about his 'valley of death' statement.
I cant get it out my head that Zeke may have Offed Him.

Zeke also Stole from Emily if not manufactured drama.

I FastForwarded through Zeke !!!

The Irsh Crew ? I think Phoney Comedy/Drama, or they would have been Beaten to a Pulp.

When Emily Got Knocked Up I Couldn't stand her anymore

In Short 3 Years ago I would Fast Forward through all But Vern and Shawn

I Liked Shawn , Not his dad. I Think his Dads attitude towards Shawn was Manufactured too (Tuff Love Crap) But it still made me dislike him.

Vern ? Nothing I Can say about Vern, But probably a billionare playing to keep busy. And be with his Daughter(s)


I ignored Their Phoney Contests. All shows started Out with Sean Crying Poverty

& Winning by the End. it was Obvious they Held Back on the Cleanups to Make the Contest Even Throughout the season.
Like ya didn't Know Sean would come out on top .

I Could Go on

Last 2 Seasons I nuked it From my Watch list all together.

Shawn's Jars of Gold are the Only thing I Miss seeing.
My guess They Still Have every Single one in a Large Safe.
& More Money Then everyone else put together.

 

[sgtfda]

I know Shawns dad. Met him at the Phoenix gold show. Nice guy. Met his twin brother also. He told me if it was not for the show money they would not have made it. That should tell you something. As he always says got to pay the bills. Nome is a shit hole inhabited by those who live in such a place. Get that show money! Nome welfare.

 

[Tesorodeoro]

I don’t watch TV, so I only saw a handful of episodes. My brother was not a “character” on the show.

 

[VonDigger]

..and then you talk about it in a forum available to the public. If the situation is as potentially
volatile as it appears to be, I'd be more worried about protecting my chest!

I'm not worried about it. To most folks, I'm already invisible.

 

[releventchair]

Carl , I Don't Know Gun Types However Till today I Could have Sworn,
on the News Reports
Some of the Feds were carrying Semi-auto's .
I Cannot Find one Pic to Prove it

If Not Security,

Mandela Effect maybe, or parallel Existance

Semi autos are not machine guns.

 

[releventchair]

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Mornin Sarge.

Ramrod ferrule look military Civil War to you?
I see end that fits ramrod hole towards breech. Rod reversed to use a jag or other fitting. With potential to simply be tuliped.

Commercial offerings in the heydays following the blackpowder revival (repos vs originals though originals were being conserved and used as the beginning of such revival) had plain brass single pinned ferrules. Similar are still in catalogs for parts.
Here's an Oct. Country offering.
Left piece was smooth domed while right (business end) was drilled and tapped.

Cheap ramrods not soaked in coal tar or similar and instead pushed on at length instead of short distances sheared with dry wood and or poor grain. Not that a ramrod has never been shot out of a barrel in a panic . Not all of which fracture. (A good one flies arrow like , like a snake.)
Unless you find the military using such back when as a volunteer or guard may have being home provided ; your parts seem more civilian in your tale. Putting them as more likely ambusher sourced?
A military used what it had. But wood ramrods like some or most wimmin were an invite to trouble.
Yours seems the smooth end. Opposite what would be downbore when loading.
Having had the displeasure of a stuck ramrod and or the short ones that fit below a barrel be a pain... How your piece was broken begs questions. The grain shear shows. But why force a rod that hard during loading.
Fouled bore? A witness mark on the rod still indicating it needed to be seated deeper to not have a dangerous gap between breech and bullet with loose powder in between but instead the barrel was double loaded? Already has a charge before being loaded again.

How to shear that absent downward pressure..
A wagon wheel run over it should break it like a stick or common dowel. If in it's home after loading the barrel defends it.

On and on. But whoever used it would have been frowning if in a firefight. And probably pitching the gun if another at hand was an option.

 

[jeff of pa]

Semi auNtos are not machine guns.

They Were to me a few years ago

 

[releventchair]

They Were to me a few years ago

Gully full of FBI agents and machine guns. What could go wrong?
Still it is false.

 

[releventchair]

They Were to me a few years ago

Ya well you're from Pa. The land of stony ground.

 

[jeff of pa]

I Figured the FBI Probably thought someone would Jump in the Hole
Grab all th Gold & Run off into the Woods .

With the Guns they could at least Fire into the Air & Yell Stop

 

[sgtfda]

I always thought the gun parts were from a civilian not military rifle. I had several experts look at the parts and that was their opinion also.

A broken off ramrod. A trigger guard a a wedge for holding the barrel on. I believe the wood on the gun rotted off in the ten years the rifle laid out in the open weather before the survey crew discovered the skeletons. Someone picked up the barrel section and removed it.
While I was still working a girl walked into the woods right behind a house and shot herself in the head with a shotgun. The skeleton was found ten years later. The shotgun stock was gone rotted away. I thought at the time this was a good comparison.

 

[sgtfda]

While searching the Bell Draft area very few items are found in the woods with a detector. It is a remote spot. Not one pulltab. You will some stuff from the logging period. The items from that time period are not heavily corroded. The gun parts were heavily rusted to the point they were starting to crumble apart after I dug them up and they dried out. I coated them. No brass pieces were found. I found the ramrod first and after I dug it at first thought it was a old pencil. Then I found the other pieces and realized what I had. This is a lesson. Grid search a site.
Note: I gave my partner's son a police ball cap. The skeleton is one of his Halloween decorations and his dad sent me the photo. It is a good resemblance don't you think. About how I feel in my old age