Calabash Digger
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Yeah, I wasn’t actually responding to your comment—I was responding to Carl’s, and I probably should’ve clarified that when I mentioned the canvas and the broad stroke.
But I’ll say this: people can talk all they want about a “small slice of the pie,” but history matters.
When the XP Deus 2 first came out, I was one of the first people here with one—actually the first showing video of it after Elaine from XP sent it to me. And what did I say from my testing, my so-called “small slice of the pie”? I said it was a top-tier performer. Historically, how did that work out? Turns out it’s considered one of the best, if not the best, all-around detectors out there.
Same thing with the Minelab Manticore. What did I point out early on? It had an iron issue. And now what do you see? The stabilizer. That fix exists because people like me, from our “small slice of the pie,” identified a real-world problem that eventually got addressed for everybody.
So yes, I understand the argument that my beaches are mild to moderate. I’m not claiming they represent every beach on Earth. What I am saying is this: in 2026, on mild to moderate saltwater beaches, the Minelab Manticore is, in my opinion, the deepest simultaneous multi-frequency detector currently made. On those beaches, I can confidently say it has a depth edge over the Deus 2, though both are elite machines and very close overall.
Now here’s where it gets interesting with the AQ Impulse. One administrator said Florida sands were different. Fair enough. But then I listened to Phil Myers’ Treasure Talk livestream with Joe Beechnut and Clive Clynick, and Phil mentioned a customer getting around 12–13 inches on a nickel in Florida wet salt sand.
Well… what does that sound like?
That mirrors the exact type of results I’ve been showing repeatedly from Morehead City to Ocean Isle.
So if Florida’s wet salt beaches are producing similar numbers, then maybe—just maybe—the broader takeaway is this:
On mild to moderate beaches, simultaneous multi-frequency detectors appear to be outperforming pulse induction in practical, huntable real-world conditions.
That doesn’t mean PI is dead. It doesn’t mean PI won’t dominate on highly mineralized, volcanic, or extreme black sand beaches. What it means is we need more legitimate global testing—real beaches, real settings, real hunts—not theory.
So yes, sometimes a “small slice of the pie” can absolutely reveal truths that apply much wider than people want to admit.
Now let’s keep going—show us the mineralized beaches, show us the volcanic beaches, show us the black sand beaches—and let’s see what the data says. BTW BUY 4 Manticores and test with exact settings on same target...Any difference? That's another piece of the pie.
But I’ll say this: people can talk all they want about a “small slice of the pie,” but history matters.
When the XP Deus 2 first came out, I was one of the first people here with one—actually the first showing video of it after Elaine from XP sent it to me. And what did I say from my testing, my so-called “small slice of the pie”? I said it was a top-tier performer. Historically, how did that work out? Turns out it’s considered one of the best, if not the best, all-around detectors out there.
Same thing with the Minelab Manticore. What did I point out early on? It had an iron issue. And now what do you see? The stabilizer. That fix exists because people like me, from our “small slice of the pie,” identified a real-world problem that eventually got addressed for everybody.
So yes, I understand the argument that my beaches are mild to moderate. I’m not claiming they represent every beach on Earth. What I am saying is this: in 2026, on mild to moderate saltwater beaches, the Minelab Manticore is, in my opinion, the deepest simultaneous multi-frequency detector currently made. On those beaches, I can confidently say it has a depth edge over the Deus 2, though both are elite machines and very close overall.
Now here’s where it gets interesting with the AQ Impulse. One administrator said Florida sands were different. Fair enough. But then I listened to Phil Myers’ Treasure Talk livestream with Joe Beechnut and Clive Clynick, and Phil mentioned a customer getting around 12–13 inches on a nickel in Florida wet salt sand.
Well… what does that sound like?
That mirrors the exact type of results I’ve been showing repeatedly from Morehead City to Ocean Isle.
So if Florida’s wet salt beaches are producing similar numbers, then maybe—just maybe—the broader takeaway is this:
On mild to moderate beaches, simultaneous multi-frequency detectors appear to be outperforming pulse induction in practical, huntable real-world conditions.
That doesn’t mean PI is dead. It doesn’t mean PI won’t dominate on highly mineralized, volcanic, or extreme black sand beaches. What it means is we need more legitimate global testing—real beaches, real settings, real hunts—not theory.
So yes, sometimes a “small slice of the pie” can absolutely reveal truths that apply much wider than people want to admit.
Now let’s keep going—show us the mineralized beaches, show us the volcanic beaches, show us the black sand beaches—and let’s see what the data says. BTW BUY 4 Manticores and test with exact settings on same target...Any difference? That's another piece of the pie.
