Folks I think I?ve had it really, America as we knew it gone, I?d like to pack it up

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Yeah, some of the folks are just plain dumb at Haulover.
 

Lol I watch those videos on Youtube all the time. They are great. You know I think I would have to giver her a go if I had the boat for it.
Off topic, but did you see the gal sunbathing on the bow of that one boat?? Whooooeeee!
 

Got back from Geneva on the beach Lake Erie, Ohio. Hey it’s a poor mans key west. It was a nice day, beaches are going away, didn’t detect, anyone been there or detect surrounding area.
 

Put in bay, never been there, presque island either maybe soon Pennsylvania
 

Those who attempt to regulate the profiteers soon find themselves out of a job. I've known many regulators in gov't agencies and they all know the saying "Do your job - lose your job". The saying is nearly as ubiquitous as the old soviet worker saying "They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work".

Not where I worked. Private sector. Do your job well 1)avoid layoffs 2) get bonuses (one years ago was $10,000!
3) get promotions 4) management gets upset at the thought of you leaving

Sorry, I have no respect for the 5 guys who stand by a hole in the road and STARE at it for three hours, then one decided to take the 10 minutes to fix it. They should be jailed for FRAUD. Because in essence that is STEALING from the taxpayers or whoever is paying them.
 

Not where I worked. Private sector. Do your job well 1)avoid layoffs 2) get bonuses (one years ago was $10,000!
3) get promotions 4) management gets upset at the thought of you leaving

Sorry, I have no respect for the 5 guys who stand by a hole in the road and STARE at it for three hours, then one decided to take the 10 minutes to fix it. They should be jailed for FRAUD. Because in essence that is STEALING from the taxpayers or whoever is paying them.

LOL - I responded about regulators, not road work, but now that you mention it, road work is almost entirely contracted out in our state to, wait for it...the private sector.

I personally saw some outstanding people fired - some for refusing to do things that were illegal, such as refusing to falsify data.

Here is an example of a biologist (disclosure, Brenda is a friend) fired because the science-based size limits on blue crabs that have been in effect for decades suddenly offended a handful of harvesters (voters). I could name dozens of scientists and regulators fired for telling the truth but it is off topic (I think). How many more examples of hardworking honest non-partisan scientists employed by gov't getting fired would you like?

https://talbotspy.org/marylands-veteran-crab-manager-fired-after-watermen-complain-to-hogan-2/

https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/columnists/dan-rodricks/bs-md-rodricks-0305-20170304-story.html
 

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Think "lake effect snow".

The natives here by Lake Michigan (Well some of them) would migrate towards/to the lake in summer , then inland into valleys come winter.
Now that I've stated that , someone will come up with natives passing natives going the opposite direction , l.o.l. And it is easy enough to figure not all headed towards the big lake in summer. But did enjoy the river(s) relief from hottest days.

Lakeshore is one climate. Inland a ways is another , tempered by the lake and predominant wind.
One day the snow rolls over the highway along the lake like a cave roof , then drops.
Another day it does not fall till miles inland.
Where I am in the forest it's an average two weeks behind open areas when snow melts.
I tell myself it's cooler in summer as a result...
Most native cross country type trails between lakes or river drainages (per maps) were in more open areas , or in dense mature white pine's. Both easier to travel early spring.



There are times it's a few degrees warmer at the lakeshore in winter (even more on rare occasions) due to the lakes temperature volume. With your mentioned lake effect snow.
Those years when ice covers most of the great lakes (less it seems of late) , lake effect is reduced.
As waters cool it is reduced too.
Come summer it is often a few degrees cooler at the lakeshore.

Of interest year round is areas lake affected temps pass through areas of regions due to terrain.
I'm North of a river valley . Temps can average a few degrees different within 50 miles both directions. Cooler in summer here. Cooler in winter.
Natives knew that by thier actions. With that valley/drainage (like others) a long term home.
 

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Our government is so clean, above board, lean, steadfast - oops, I have to go puke, I'll be back soon.
 

Most native Florida residents wish people would quit moving here, it has become too crowded and they bring their politics with them. The first hurricane that hits the state after new residents arrive usually sends the faint of heart back north.

I don't know anybody who lives anywhere that wishes more strangers would move in near them. The world has become too crowded.

I was born in 1959 and the total world population was estimated to be 2,979,500,000 people. Now it is 7,874,900,000. 2.6 times increase. Will double again in probably under 40 years. They gotta go somewhere.
 

I don't know anybody who lives anywhere that wishes more strangers would move in near them. The world has become too crowded.

I was born in 1959 and the total world population was estimated to be 2,979,500,000 people. Now it is 7,874,900,000. 2.6 times increase. Will double again in probably under 40 years. They gotta go somewhere.

True, but they can just go somewhere else. :laughing7:
 

My family?s been in Florida since 1812?.if it was all that bad we would have died out by now?.still going strong in FL!
I've known at least 20 people over the years who moved to Florida and all but one came back here to New England. That tells me all I need to know about Florida. Nice place to visit, but no one wants to live there permanently. Ridiculous heat and humidity, gators, pythons, frogs and lizards everywhere, bugs the size of your fist, devastating hurricanes and so on. No thanks...
 

My family?s been in Florida since 1812?.if it was all that bad we would have died out by now?.still going strong in FL!

I'm a direct descendant of Roger Williams, so my family's been here since 1636! Still going strong here for 385 years!
 

My family has been here since 1608, second year of the James town colony. EVERY generation has moved west, sometimes county by county, sometimes state by state. Even I was born a county east of where I live now (on the coast)...my oldest son....he is in Japan...I supposed Hawaii would have made sense too. I just wonder where the grandchildren will go east to...
 

Greetings from Ca Ira Va. Well if it's work you seek don't come here . this area is a ghost town , no work, no doctors , no grocery store and no traffic lights, and almost no people . oh things were booming in the 1700s but not anymore... look us up it's some neat history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ca_Ira,_Virginia
 

Greetings from Ca Ira Va. Well if it's work you seek don't come here . this area is a ghost town , no work, no doctors , no grocery store and no traffic lights, and almost no people . oh things were booming in the 1700s but not anymore... look us up it's some neat history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ca_Ira,_Virginia

You must have found some goodies in that area! I just read up on it, lots of history!
 

My family has been here since 1608, second year of the James town colony. EVERY generation has moved west, sometimes county by county, sometimes state by state. Even I was born a county east of where I live now (on the coast)...my oldest son....he is in Japan...I supposed Hawaii would have made sense too. I just wonder where the grandchildren will go east to...

You may have the record for this forum for colonies that became America. Mine settled at L'Habitat Port Royal Nova Scotia in 1605, ejected by the British after the fall of Louisbourg about 1758 where they went west to Quebec with long trapping and hunting forays in the American West and intermarriages with native American women, at least through the 1830's, with some documentation in church records. Ultimately, they moved from Quebec to eastern MA to work in the mills and live in French Canadian neighborhoods. I made peace with our former enemies by marrying an Irish/Scottish/English girl.

IMO, people should learn where they came from - if for no other reason than to appreciate the hardships faced by those who came before us.
 

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I was at Wally World in the frozen section... and this young girl is buying big bags of various frozen burritos.. so i think to myself "she really likes those"... so i say to her... "those must be good"...

She says "yeah they are pretty good but i am buying that many because i have 6 kids".

I am sure my smile weakened slightly out of surprise.
 

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