DownEast_Detecting

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Well i finally got around to hitting the beach up this weekend. i am way more interested in historical items. But with the proximity of the fort being so close, i thought what the heck. It could be the best of both worlds. Since the state wont let me metal detect any where inside the historic site. i thought this is as close as i'm going to get.
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The "Castle" was a popular tourist attraction on the Pemaquid Peninsula in the early 1900s. It was a 1908 reconstruction of the stone western tower of Fort William Henry, built to protect English settlers from strikes by Wabanaki people and their French allies who had interests in the land and resources the English were attempting to profit upon.
Fort William Henry was the second of three forts built at this location. Fort Charles (1677-89) and Fort William Henry were both taken by the enemy and destroyed. Fort Frederick, the third fort, was built from the ruins of Fort William Henry in 1729, decommissioned in 1759, and later dismantled. Archaeologists have undertaken excavations at the site for decades
This is one of oldest places in maine, just look at some of the stuff they have found.
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bone hair brush from the 1600's////////////// cross guard for plugged bayonet 1690//////////////// native american point 5000 bce///////////lockplate from flintlock musket 1690



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1910

One signal was so faint, and would only ring up swinging one way. i know most wouldnt dig it, but ive gotten lucky on faint signals before so I started digging. This thing was so deep i almost gave up trying to find it twice. but the signal kept getting stronger, so i continued. I had to dig a second hole just to drain the water from my primary hole. This thing was at least 2 feet down, maybe closer to 3. Finally there was no longer a signal coming from the hole. i knew it was in the spoil pile somewhere. A pocket watch! Probably why i could hear it so deep, because its a bigger item. inside of cover says "trade Dueber mark Canton O USA" with a serial number "3188483"
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Since it was one of my first saltwater detecting trips. i didn't have my detector dialed in the way i like. so i was just digging most signals. im glad to, because just when i thought i was digging up another pull tap or mangled piece of aluminum, bam a ring. Turned out to be a 14k white gold wedding band. My first Gold! hurray. im way more into relic hunting but its nice to find some gold. i would of preferred a coin, but im not complaining. there were no initials or anything on the inside besides the karat and possibly jewelers mark. cant really tell whats after the 14k.
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not bad for my first real beach run.
 

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Garypederson

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Well i finally got around to hitting the beach up this weekend. i am way more interested in historical items. But with the proximity of the fort being so close, i thought what the heck. It could be the best of both worlds. Since the state wont let me metal detect any where inside the historic site. i thought this is as close as i'm going to get.
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The "Castle" was a popular tourist attraction on the Pemaquid Peninsula in the early 1900s. It was a 1908 reconstruction of the stone western tower of Fort William Henry, built to protect English settlers from strikes by Wabanaki people and their French allies who had interests in the land and resources the English were attempting to profit upon.
Fort William Henry was the second of three forts built at this location. Fort Charles (1677-89) and Fort William Henry were both taken by the enemy and destroyed. Fort Frederick, the third fort, was built from the ruins of Fort William Henry in 1729, decommissioned in 1759, and later dismantled. Archaeologists have undertaken excavations at the site for decades
This is one of oldest places in maine, just look at some of the stuff they have found.
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bone hair brush from the 1600's////////////// cross guard for plugged bayonet 1690//////////////// native american point 5000 bce///////////lockplate from flintlock musket 1690



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1910

One signal was so faint, and would only ring up swinging one way. i know most wouldnt dig it, but ive gotten lucky on faint signals before so I started digging. This thing was so deep i almost gave up trying to find it twice. but the signal kept getting stronger, so i continued. I had to dig a second hole just to drain the water from my primary hole. This thing was at least 2 feet down, maybe closer to 3. Finally there was no longer a signal coming from the hole. i knew it was in the spoil pile somewhere. A pocket watch! Probably why i could hear it so deep, because its a bigger item. inside of cover says "trade Dueber mark Canton O USA" with a serial number "3188483"
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Since it was one of my first saltwater detecting trips. i didn't have my detector dialed in the way i like. so i was just digging most signals. im glad to, because just when i thought i was digging up another pull tap or mangled piece of aluminum, bam a ring. Turned out to be a 14k white gold wedding band. My first Gold! hurray. im way more into relic hunting but its nice to find some gold. i would of preferred a coin, but im not complaining. there were no initials or anything on the inside besides the karat and possibly jewelers mark. cant really tell whats after the 14k.
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not bad for my first real beach run.
Incredible. I also collect pocket watches. Any chance of getting photo of dial or movement. Glad you kept digging
 

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DownEast_Detecting

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Nice finds, congrats!
The 'FG' after 14k is for 'Frederick Goldman', the maker. I've got a couple rings with that mark.
wow thanks a lot. i didn't think i would ever find that out.
Incredible. I also collect pocket watches. Any chance of getting photo of dial or movement. Glad you kept digging
well the cover wasnt attached, i found it separately in the pile of sand. and the glass face had a crack in it. so it was full of water, i just thought that all the numbers and hands got washed away by the salt water. seems unlikely but im assuming its been in the saltwater and sand for a long time. but there is also a tab thingy (see picture below) that looks like it's for a finger to open up. i just assumed thats how you got to the gears and such. but its so corroded mine wont open.
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DownEast_Detecting

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Well i finally got around to hitting the beach up this weekend. i am way more interested in historical items. But with the proximity of the fort being so close, i thought what the heck. It could be the best of both worlds. Since the state wont let me metal detect any where inside the historic site. i thought this is as close as i'm going to get.
View attachment 2094097
The "Castle" was a popular tourist attraction on the Pemaquid Peninsula in the early 1900s. It was a 1908 reconstruction of the stone western tower of Fort William Henry, built to protect English settlers from strikes by Wabanaki people and their French allies who had interests in the land and resources the English were attempting to profit upon.
Fort William Henry was the second of three forts built at this location. Fort Charles (1677-89) and Fort William Henry were both taken by the enemy and destroyed. Fort Frederick, the third fort, was built from the ruins of Fort William Henry in 1729, decommissioned in 1759, and later dismantled. Archaeologists have undertaken excavations at the site for decades
This is one of oldest places in maine, just look at some of the stuff they have found.
View attachment 2094113 View attachment 2094112 View attachment 2094111 View attachment 2094110
bone hair brush from the 1600's////////////// cross guard for plugged bayonet 1690//////////////// native american point 5000 bce///////////lockplate from flintlock musket 1690



View attachment 2094096
1910

One signal was so faint, and would only ring up swinging one way. i know most wouldnt dig it, but ive gotten lucky on faint signals before so I started digging. This thing was so deep i almost gave up trying to find it twice. but the signal kept getting stronger, so i continued. I had to dig a second hole just to drain the water from my primary hole. This thing was at least 2 feet down, maybe closer to 3. Finally there was no longer a signal coming from the hole. i knew it was in the spoil pile somewhere. A pocket watch! Probably why i could hear it so deep, because its a bigger item. inside of cover says "trade Dueber mark Canton O USA" with a serial number "3188483"
View attachment 2094088 View attachment 2094089 View attachment 2094087 View attachment 2094093 View attachment 2094094 View attachment 2094095

Since it was one of my first saltwater detecting trips. i didn't have my detector dialed in the way i like. so i was just digging most signals. im glad to, because just when i thought i was digging up another pull tap or mangled piece of aluminum, bam a ring. Turned out to be a 14k white gold wedding band. My first Gold! hurray. im way more into relic hunting but its nice to find some gold. i would of preferred a coin, but im not complaining. there were no initials or anything on the inside besides the karat and possibly jewelers mark. cant really tell whats after the 14k.
View attachment 2094091 View attachment 2094092

not bad for my first real beach run.
Awesome!!! Congrats!!!
 

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DownEast_Detecting

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well i'm feeling pretty dumb right now. im not sure how i missed that paragraph under the serial numbers. you know the one with the big "IMPORTANT" in red. That serial number is from the back of the cover. Apparently you are suppose to use the number from the movement inside not the case. So i guess ill never know the pocket watch's exact date.
i feel a little better since nobody else saw that and said anything. lol oh well.
 

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Some interesting historic finds there.


Agree with Frederick Goldman Inc. for the ring maker. That particular stylised 'FG' mark was registered for "finger rings" in 1979 (although it had a claimed first use in commerce of 1946).


As said, the serial number on the watch case doesn’t necessarily lead to a date, but it can be narrowed down a bit. Although the Dueber Watch Case Company was founded in 1873, they didn’t move to Canton, Ohio until after they purchased the Hampden Watch Company in 1888. The trademark style narrows it down a bit further… that particular trademark was registered in 1895. John Dueber sold the company to Walter Vrettman in 1925 and it went bust two years later.
 

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DownEast_Detecting

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Some interesting historic finds there.


Agree with Frederick Goldman Inc. for the ring maker. That particular stylised 'FG' mark was registered for "finger rings" in 1979 (although it had a claimed first use in commerce of 1946).


As said, the serial number on the watch case doesn’t necessarily lead to a date, but it can be narrowed down a bit. Although the Dueber Watch Case Company was founded in 1873, they didn’t move to Canton, Ohio until after they purchased the Hampden Watch Company in 1888. The trademark style narrows it down a bit further… that particular trademark was registered in 1895. John Dueber sold the company to Walter Vrettman in 1925 and it went bust two years later.

thanks so much Red-Coat! your input is always knowledgeable and welcome. Like i said i never thought i would find the jewelers name out. i was hoping to find a name engraved when i found it, so i could try and return it. But its such a standard looking wedding band. unless it had a last name it would of probably been a very hard task.
Thanks for closing in the dates on the watch. I don't think ill be able to open it, so thats as close as i'll get. But your time frame of 1895-1925 is what i was thinking as well. I bet its after 1908 when they reconstructed the fort tower. There was a big boom of tourists visiting the area then.
 

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