Oak Island: Was something even there.

[Tom_in_CA]

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"Where the tides meet" would be an excellent description for "Oak Island"!

Oak Island is located where the North Stream from the Labrador Current meets up with the Southern Gulf Stream, then into the North Atlantic Current.


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For an Oak Island Pirate...It would be a Quick Hop on the Tube Express, back to...Jolly Ole England!

Well that does it !! Who can argue with Ocean currents that yesteryear ships followed ? If that brought them skirting by the Oak Island area, then what more proof do we need of "certain treasure" buried there ! Let's go ! Get your shovels !

Hmmm, wait a moment.... if simply having ocean currents bring passing ships by means "treasure", then figure this: The coast of CA was skirted by Manila Galleons for 250 yrs. Although their return destination was Mexico, yet ... the currents that brought them back across the Pacific would spot the west coast somewhere between San Francisco area to the Channel Island (Los Angeles) area. And from there, they'd turn south for the final leg to Mexico. Thus with this reasoning, I ought to start digging around on the coast here, eh ? Sure to be a treasure room here too , eh ?

And my studies of these ocean currents (if the atlantic is anything like the pacific), is that there is no one *exact* landfall spot (eg.: an exact point along the coast) that they necessarily always got to land at. Like in CA for example, that "sighting of land" could be anywhere for hundreds of miles. It would all depend on the time of year, as the storm track (spinning of the weather pressures) shifts north and south with the seasons. Also, the ships were not *totally* at the mercy of the currents anyhow, if their ultimate destination was further south or further north, they simply set their sails and rudder, and could go at an angle to whatever the winds and currents were dictating.

So don't think for a minute that they necessarily departed or arrived at exact locations. As for "departure" locations (because I see the direction of the arrows on your map), the only way I'd believe they distinctly left our coast heading east to Europe, was if there was some sort of port or reason to be ashore at any one particular place. Example, those ships leaving Manila , were indeed leaving from a specific point. But that was a harbor filled with world trading ships! Of course! Then they went northwards towards Japan, and turned west from there. And the point at which they turned "west" (along side of Japan) was not any exact spot. Despite what a map like yours might show, that is just generalized showing the approx. currents.

Sorry.

 

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[Robot]

You Would Not Have Made A Very Good Sailor...If You Did Not...Go With The Flow!

Well that does it !! Who can argue with Ocean currents that yesteryear ships followed ? If that brought them skirting by the Oak Island area, then what more proof do we need of "certain treasure" buried there ! Let's go ! Get your shovels !

Hmmm, wait a moment.... if simply having ocean currents bring passing ships by means "treasure", then figure this: The coast of CA was skirted by Manila Galleons for 250 yrs. Although their return destination was Mexico, yet ... the currents that brought them back across the Pacific would spot the west coast somewhere between San Francisco area to the Channel Island (Los Angeles) area. And from there, they'd turn south for the final leg to Mexico. Thus with this reasoning, I ought to start digging around on the coast here, eh ? Sure to be a treasure room here too , eh ?

And my studies of these ocean currents (if the atlantic is anything like the pacific), is that there is no one *exact* landfall spot (eg.: an exact point along the coast) that they necessarily always got to land at. Like in CA for example, that "sighting of land" could be anywhere for hundreds of miles. It would all depend on the time of year, as the storm track (spinning of the weather pressures) shifts north and south with the seasons. Also, the ships were not *totally* at the mercy of the currents anyhow, if their ultimate destination was further south or further north, they simply set their sails and rudder, and could go at an angle to whatever the winds and currents were dictating.

So don't think for a minute that they necessarily departed or arrived at exact locations. As for "departure" locations (because I see the direction of the arrows on your map), the only way I'd believe they distinctly left our coast heading east to Europe, was if there was some sort of port or reason to be ashore at any one particular place. Example, those ships leaving Manila , were indeed leaving from a specific point. But that was a harbor filled with world trading ships! Of course! Then they went northwards towards Japan, and turned west from there. And the point at which they turned "west" (along side of Japan) was not any exact spot. Despite what a map like yours might show, that is just generalized showing the approx. currents.

Sorry.

Since the Discovery of the New World, Sailors have been using these Currents to Navigate...Pirates Included!

 

[Raparee]

Oak Island[/B] is located where the North Stream from the Labrador Current meets up with the Southern Gulf Stream...

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Based on your own map, no it isn't.

 

[Robot]

Close enough...For A "Pirate"!

 

[Tom_in_CA]

... Since the Discovery of the New World, Sailors have been using these Currents to Navigate...Pirates Included! ....

Correct. But didn't you read what I wrote ? Despite maps showing currents, that show a "dashed line" leaving the coast at a particular coastal point, .... does NOT mean that ... like a street map for car-driving, that .... ergo .... they "made a left turn" at that exact point, etc.... It's just generalized maps showing ocean currents. And you're reading way-too-much into , to think that your hashed line that may indeed turn left at Oak Island means, ergo, they necessarily turned left there.

For example , in my comparison to the Pacific Currents, there has no doubt been historic ship route maps of what the Manila galleons travelled. And it would show that they departed the coast at a point north in the area of Japan. And I'm sure there'd be a "little black hashed line" that might show a random spot along the coast where they left sight of land, and turned east. Sure. But if I studied to see exactly where that hashed line left, the coast of Japan, do you *really* think that's the "exact spot" ? No. Of course not. It would depend on where the currents were at that time of year, where they picked up sailing wind, etc... And so too on the east coast. I bet if you found other mariner maps (both old and new) you'd see that the maps will have variations of where they place the black line. Just generalized currents that do not stay in the exact same place.

Sorry.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Based on your own map, no it isn't.

Say it isn't so !!

 

[Robot]

Correct. But didn't you read what I wrote ? Despite maps showing currents, that show a "dashed line" leaving the coast at a particular coastal point, .... does NOT mean that ... like a street map for car-driving, that .... ergo .... they "made a left turn" at that exact point, etc.... It's just generalized maps showing ocean currents. And you're reading way-too-much into , to think that your hashed line that may indeed turn left at Oak Island means, ergo, they necessarily turned left there.

You are correct...There were "No" Stop Signs, Go Signs, Left Turn Signs for the Ancient Mariners.

They used "Celestial Stars" as their Markers...with a Sextant as their Guide for Turn Indicators.

Those previous to this time ..."Just Went With The Flow"!

 

[KandiKlover]

I occasionally watch when there is nothing else on. I just like watching the random junk they pull up sometimes and am always hoping they pull out the metal detector. Don't really care about the "treasure".

Are they sponsored by Minelab? I notice the narrator makes sure to point out that it's a MineLab CTX 3030 their using.

 

[Wally Taylor]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but the Canadian Government contacted The Laginas, and told them that with all of the items that were being brought in and reported, they would have to hire an archeologist full time to examine and catalogue all items being recovered, and they would have to cover all costs involved. I'll try to find that report that I read. I don't know if it's the stuff from the metal detector or out of the hole, but apparently something is happening on the island.

 

[gazzahk]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but the Canadian Government contacted The Laginas, and told them that with all of the items that were being brought in and reported, they would have to hire an archeologist full time to examine and catalogue all items being recovered, and they would have to cover all costs involved. I'll try to find that report that I read. I don't know if it's the stuff from the metal detector or out of the hole, but apparently something is happening on the island.

I am sure everyone here would be thrilled if they actually find some treasure...

 

[KandiKlover]

I am sure everyone here would be thrilled if they actually find some treasure...

History Channel might not lol no more seasons.

 

[n2mini]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but the Canadian Government contacted The Laginas, and told them that with all of the items that were being brought in and reported, they would have to hire an archeologist full time to examine and catalogue all items being recovered, and they would have to cover all costs involved. I'll try to find that report that I read. I don't know if it's the stuff from the metal detector or out of the hole, but apparently something is happening on the island.

hasn't that guy been on the shows for a couple years now?

 

[Tom_in_CA]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but the Canadian Government contacted The Laginas, and told them that with all of the items that were being brought in and reported, they would have to hire an archeologist full time to examine and catalogue all items being recovered, and they would have to cover all costs involved. I'll try to find that report that I read. I don't know if it's the stuff from the metal detector or out of the hole, but apparently something is happening on the island.

The fact of having to have an archie monitor on-site, does not mean "aha ! there must be goodies there !". Archie monitors get required all the time on const. projects. Like in the USA, so perhaps Canada too (especially with something so publicly broadcast). Like here in the USA, if an environmental impact report shows you're even close to something historic (the old-town district of any city, blah blah), you might be required to have an archie monitor on-site, for something as simple as sidewalk tearouts, sewer line installations, etc... Because, heaven forbid you disturb an indian bone. Thus the presence of an archie anywhere does not bode something sinister or hushed or treasure or whatever.

I am sure everyone here would be thrilled if they actually find some treasure...

Of course. But the lack of finding a treasure NEVER means it's not most certainly there. It's only a) deeper still, b) a little more the left, c) a little more to the right, d) in the swamp afterall, e) deeper still in the swamp. f) a little more to the left in the swamp. And so on and so forth

 

[sasquash]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but the Canadian Government contacted The Laginas, and told them that with all of the items that were being brought in and reported, they would have to hire an archeologist full time to examine and catalogue all items being recovered, and they would have to cover all costs involved. I'll try to find that report that I read. I don't know if it's the stuff from the metal detector or out of the hole, but apparently something is happening on the island.

Here for the report I presume:

Oak Island treasure hunt requires archeologist, Ince says | The Chronicle Herald

 

[Roadhse2]

While saying that what has been found is a mix of modern and historical items that are typical of the area,,,they then toss this out there...should keep the tourist dollars flowing

"Archeological consultant Wynand Baerken of Chester Marine Services said he supports the proposed legislation, particularly in light of new evidence and mounting theories concerning the secrets of Oak Island.

He said a decade of research by Norwegian researcher and documentary-maker Petter Amundsen shows Shakespeare’s works have “clear links to the island” and that the Knights Templar treasures could be buried there."

 

[Honest Samuel]

I believe the story starting with the boys finding chains on a tree branch over a pit. Due to water problems, no treasures will be recover. Good hunting and good luck.

 

[gazzahk]

Here for the report I presume:

Oak Island treasure hunt requires archeologist, Ince says | The Chronicle Herald

Certainly doesn't' read like they are bringing out buckets loads of gold and jewels...

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Here for the report I presume:

Oak Island treasure hunt requires archeologist, Ince says | The Chronicle Herald

Good job finding that link. Kind of reminds me of someone who put total faith into the belief of the Yamashita treasure. And his "selling point" was the fact that the govt. had arranged some sort of split (50/50) for the find of the treasure. Or some sort of "permit" system, or some such nonsense. So in the person's mind's eyes: the mere fact of a license or permit or split-per-terms, meant: AHA, then government REALLY DOES know there's a treasure there. What more proof do we need !?

 

[Tom_in_CA]

.... "Archeological consultant Wynand Baerken of Chester Marine Services said he supports the proposed legislation, particularly in light of new evidence and mounting theories concerning the secrets of Oak Island.

He said a decade of research by Norwegian researcher and documentary-maker Petter Amundsen shows Shakespeare’s works have “clear links to the island” and that the Knights Templar treasures could be buried there."

And when an archaeologist says it, then by golly, it must be true. Right ? With all due respect for archies, they're humans too. And prone to subjective "treasure fever" mentality as well. I've seen some TV archies (commenting on dug artifacts) that would make an relic hunting md'r cry or laugh with their "analysis" of the data it supposedly points to.

As I say ... with all due respect for archies. Because certainly we md'rs gain a lot from them, and certainly not all of them are "ghost-hunting legend" types.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

..... Due to water problems, no treasures will be recover. .... .

Or how about: Whether or not water problems exist, no treasure was ever there ?