Prospector Shot on his own land - trying to mow!

[Red James Cash]

Air rifles cant kill,think again.

 

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[Chadeaux]

Yeah right? Not to mention the husband said he heard 2 shots, then the 3rd hit him in the leg. I don't know too many pellet guns that can be heard over a running tractor, blade disengaged or not. I'll take back my last post giving the sheriff's dept. the benefit of the doubt. I believe they are just a bunch of incompetent hicks with a lack of proper training and a possible Barney Fife yellow streak going down their backs..

Crossman Fury sounds about like a 22 LR until it's well broken in ...

 

[Floristweb]

Curiouser and curiouser. Y'all do know, should some sort of criminal or civil case be filed one way or the other, for whichever side, everything you post on here could be subpoenaed into court?

The good thing is that honest folks have nothing to hide...

 

[diggummup]

As I mentioned previously he was convicted and sentenced to 10 years at one time (despite having it stayed to time served - if I recall about a month from arrest to pleading guilty) that had to be a felony and he was convicted. So it makes sense he now has an .22 pellet air gun and they couldn't swoop him up for possession of firearm. Still did a shooting, attempted murder, reckless endangerment and all that stuff.

Now that the sheriff is responding lets hope he makes progress quickly.

Assuming the position of you on your tractor relative to the shooters position holds up, who else could have done it? And after all the threats?

I believe you are interpreting the information wrong. He received 10 years suspended w/2 years probation and restitution. Case numbers B777033, B777037, B777039, B777041 on 3/23/89, 4 separate charges same incident. He couldn't have served 10 years anyway as there is no time gap that large in his record sheet.

He is known to carry a concealed weapon (pistol) and has been charged 5 times previously, 3 of those cases were thrown out of court (Nolle Prosequi), case numbers C657234, G529138, E259186,. Two other cases he did minimal time on, case numbers E259185 and F335045, where there were associated cases (charges). He has 1 ccw charge that was something other than a gun, case number D645975

These are the other criminal case numbers that he got dropped- J435761, C788566, G529139, C788428, C788441, E259184, a few of these cases were associated with the ccw charges that he got dropped.

http://publicindex.sccourts.org/Oconee/PublicIndex/PISearch.aspx

 

[Limitool]

The good thing is that honest folks have nothing to hide...

Amen Terry....

TO YOU AIR RIFLE EXPERTS: Steve states the 3 "pops" he heard over the noise of the engine all happened within "10 seconds". If... this timing is correct then wouldn't this weapon then need to be an automatic (not single shot)? Steve thought maybe the "pops" he heard were .22 shorts being fired at him. But I'm not aware of any .22 automatic or lever action that would fire .22 shorts. Would a .22 pump fire .22 shorts? Would an air rifle / CO2 firing .177's fire accurately 3 shots from 200+ ft. within 10 seconds? Now... I could fire off 3 .22 short rounds in my single shot bolt action but only the 1st shot would be accurate.

Then again.... maybe the "pops" heard were bullets or pellets hitting the mower and many others were fired and just missed the mower and Steve....? BUT... if this is true he would have NOT heard the third "pop" which struck him. This "pop" sound I believe was actually the weapon being used and Steve heard accurately 3 shots fired.

And anybody who on purpose drove within 2-3" inches of my child or myself and came upon my property and threatened me face to face in my yard would get a QUICK lesson on what an assault really is. Wouldn't take a second or two and not a word would have to be spoken.

 

[Chadeaux]

Amen Terry....

TO YOU AIR RIFLE EXPERTS: Steve states the 3 "pops" he heard over the noise of the engine all happened within "10 seconds". If... this timing is correct then wouldn't this weapon then need to be an automatic (not single shot)? Steve thought maybe the "pops" he heard were .22 shorts being fired at him. But I'm not aware of any .22 automatic or lever action that would fire .22 shorts. Would a .22 pump fire .22 shorts? Would an air rifle / CO2 firing .177's fire accurately 3 shots from 200+ ft. within 10 seconds? Now... I could fire off 3 .22 short rounds in my single shot bolt action but only the 1st shot would be accurate.

Then again.... maybe the "pops" heard were bullets or pellets hitting the mower and many others were fired and just missed the mower and Steve....? BUT... if this is true he would have NOT heard the third "pop" which struck him. This "pop" sound I believe was actually the weapon being used and Steve heard accurately 3 shots fired.

And anybody who on purpose drove within 2-3" inches of my child or myself and came upon my property and threatened me face to face in my yard would get a QUICK lesson on what an assault really is. Wouldn't take a second or two and not a word would have to be spoken.

Not an eggspert, but I do have an autoloader pen from Wally World. Using it, this old man can pop off three shots in about 12 seconds.

Fire first shot, pen has another pellet lined up and ready to load. Press one click, close barrel and fire. Repeat.

Of course, my gun has no open sites (designed without them), only a scope. Takes a sec to find target sometimes.

 

[William Monday]

The shooters have been caught...

 

[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

First off, and perhaps most important I do not plan to participate in a urination match with you and blemish this important thread.

That being said, I can't sit still for you saying I have interpreted wrongly.

I claimed the guy is a convicted felon, and as evidence of said claim I pointed out that he was sentenced to 10 years, which could only have been for a felony. I also pointed out that he spent a seemingly inordinately short time behind bars for it, 'time served' which if I recall was about about a month between his arrest and pleading guilty.

Probation is irrelevant. No one (not me anyway) claimed he served 10 years.

I don't mind being called out, just so long as you get it right.

Now lets kiss and make up, OK?

I believe you are interpreting the information wrong. He received 10 years suspended w/2 years probation and restitution. Case numbers B777033, B777037, B777039, B777041 on 3/23/89, 4 separate charges same incident. He couldn't have served 10 years anyway as there is no time gap that large in his record sheet.

He is known to carry a concealed weapon (pistol) and has been charged 5 times previously, 3 of those cases were thrown out of court (Nolle Prosequi), case numbers C657234, G529138, E259186,. Two other cases he did minimal time on, case numbers E259185 and F335045, where there were associated cases (charges). He has 1 ccw charge that was something other than a gun, case number D645975

These are the other criminal case numbers that he got dropped- J435761, C788566, G529139, C788428, C788441, E259184, a few of these cases were associated with the ccw charges that he got dropped.

Public Index Error

ps, nice summary (partial) of his record - that is a lot of stuff to wade through.

 

[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

The shooters have been caught...View attachment 1211451

Pains me to look at them Poster child (er...children? ) for the second amendment pellet gun rights movement

 

[diggummup]

First off, and perhaps most important I do not plan to participate in a urination match with you and blemish this important thread.

That being said, I can't sit still for you saying I have interpreted wrongly.

I claimed the guy is a convicted felon, and as evidence of said claim I pointed out that he was sentenced to 10 years, which could only have been for a felony. I also pointed out that he spent a seemingly inordinately short time behind bars for it, 'time served' which if I recall was about about a month between his arrest and pleading guilty.

Probation is irrelevant. No one (not me anyway) claimed he served 10 years.

I don't mind being called out, just so long as you get it right.

Now lets kiss and make up, OK?






ps, nice summary (partial) of his record - that is a lot of stuff to wade through.

Sorry if you took it personally. It wasn't meant as such. I guess I interpreted your reply wrong, lol. No hard feelings but I ain't kissing you, my wife wouldn't appreciate that.

 

[Limitool]

The shooters have been caught...View attachment 1211451

Ask Steve if this is funny....? I have a sense of humor BELIEVE ME.... not now on this subject.

 

[cw0909]

it is unbelievable MM is a free man

looking at MM case records, makes me think there
are some very lax laws in that county, these are
just the weapons and drug charges, there are several
theft, b&e, checks ect.
you will prob have to validate each link
not sure how smiles got in there
to get all on one pg click switch view tab
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Case Number: B517152
0044-Weapons / Unlawful carrying of pistol
Arrest Date: 01/26/1987
Status:  Disposed
Disposition: Nolle Prosequi
Disposition Date: 05/22/1987
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Case Number:  D645974
0043-Weapons / Carry concealed weapon, not a pistol, e.g. dirk, metal knuckles, etc. (see 0044 if pistol)
Arrest Date: 12/09/1994
Disposition: Pled Guilty
Disposition Date: 05/05/1995
Sentencing
1YR CONSECUTIVE SUSP DURING
PROBATION
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Case Number: E259185
0044-Weapons / Unlawful carrying of pistol
Arrest Date: 07/26/1994
Status:  Disposed
Disposition: Pled Guilty
Disposition Date: 12/02/1994
Sentencing
1YR ON 3MONTHS OR $200 BAL
SUSP $150 FUND
Public Index Error


Case Number: F335045
0044-Weapons / Unlawful carrying of pistol
Arrest Date: 02/13/1997
Status:  Disposed
Disposition: Pled Guilty
Disposition Date: 03/19/1997
Sentencing
6 MOS CONSECUTIVE WITH 97-297
AND 96-540
Public Index Error


Case Number: G529138
0044-Weapons / Unlawful carrying of pistol
Arrest Date: 10/15/2000
Status:  Disposed
Disposition: Nolle Prosequi
Disposition Date: 05/21/2001
Public Index Error


drug charges, on the date of pistol charge above
=======================================
0100-Drugs / Possession of less than one gram of ice, crank, or crack cocaine - 1st offense (no longer used. See 3009)
Case Number: G529139
Arrest Date: 10/15/2000
Status:  Disposed
Disposition: Nolle Prosequi
Disposition Date: 05/21/2001
Public Index Error


wow, SC dosent have a 3 strikes your out law?
================================
Case Number: G856348
0114-Drugs / Manufacture, distribution, etc., ice, crank, crack cocaine - 3rd or sub. offense (no longer used, See 3039)
Arrest Date: 12/30/2001
Status:  Disposed
Disposition: Pled Guilty
Disposition Date: 09/26/2002
Sentencing
5 YEARS CJT 36 DAYS ATU
Actions
Active - Probation
9-6-02 MOTION:RELIEVE S. BOND
11-6-08 COMMUNITY SERVICEORDER/EXEMPT 680.00 SF ARREARSAND A
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Case Number: J435761
0107-Drugs / Distribute, sell, purchase, manuf. drug other than crack cocaine, or pwid, near school
Arrest Date: 08/06/2010
Status:  Disposed
Disposition: Nolle Prosequi
Disposition Date: 06/05/2012  D
Actions
See JR #19,071
Checklist
Special Conditions Form
Financials 0.00
Bonds
Bond Id 2010BD3700100462
Set Date 08/06/2010
Set By Sprouse
Type Personal Recognizance
Amount $5,000.00
Public Index Error


very long, you will just have to read
continuation of case Number: J435760
it says time served, not sure when as he was bonded
to get all on one pg click switch view tab
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case Number: J435760
3198-Drugs / Manufacture, distribution, etc. of methamphetamine, 1st
Arrest Date: 08/06/2010
Disposition: Pled Guilty
Disposition Date: 10/16/2012
Sentencing
Time Served; pay restitution; defendant has 2 weeks to pay court costs
Actions
very long need to read
Public Index Error


Morgan, Morris Horton
click case #, to view case
Public Index Error

 

[Red James Cash]

And this guy hasnt really had crap to pay for a sentence?OOOh yeah the legal system,court system works wonderful doesnt it,yup,for the criminal.Now if a regular joe( no record except maybe traffic tickets) was nailed for illegally carrying concealed his azz would be dragged and nailed to the wall.

 

[Limitool]

Does anybody have a an email address to sent concerns about this toward the county sheriffs office? If someone does let it hit "social media" along with all your questions. If everyone / anyone ever meet Steve you'd understand this request...!!!!!! This man would NEVER hurt / could or direct violence upon anyone.

I'm just asking... I'm not real computer literate and want 100% pressure applied properly. Thanks.... Brad

 

[Floristweb]

Here are some pictures of the bullets recovered (I don't have pics of the one they found on the mower the night of the shooting). The first two are of the one recovered from the tire... the third and fourth are the one taken from Steve's leg today. The investigator and doctor think the one in his leg is a partial bullet from a ricochet or something... But I flattened a 22 with a hammer today and it looks close to the same. I flattened a.177 pellet and it isn't as big... But I know squat about bullets so you folks who know bullets, let me know what they look like to you... Thanks Ya'll

 

[CA Gold Hunter]

Could be a .22 cal pellet. Doesn't really look like a .22 rimfire to me.

 

[Floristweb]

Could be a .22 cal pellet. Doesn't really look like a .22 rimfire to me.

Thanks

 

[Floristweb]

This may be a big country but it's part of a pretty small world.... The wonderful gentleman we've been speeking to from the Oathkeepers, and I were talking on the phone earlier. I told him Steve had been in the music business, turns out he was too. They share some friends in the business.... Too funny... There talking about their history in the business and sharing stories... WOW! It feels good to see Steve Smile and and talk about something other than fearing for his family at least for a bit. I think it is just too cool that they have so much in common.

BTW I think it is just fine to put out here who we are so (We're a pretty much an open book in life)... Here goes... My husband is Steve Christie His old website hasn't been updated in many years (the video is 15-20 years old) and he doesn't use just for men anymore so he looks like Santa now,LOL... but this way ya'll will know who he is. The website is Oldies, Music, Wedding Songs, Jingles, Royal Caribbean, Cruises, Entertainer, Nashville.. That there's my fella, and even in that old video you can tell what Brad means whe he says he wouldn't hurt a fly..... Can't wait till we can get out prospecting again... We bought here just so I could get my husband into prospecting for his health.. LOL... did it for his health and he gets shot.... It's all so ironic.

 

[Limitool]

Could be a .22 cal pellet. Doesn't really look like a .22 rimfire to me.

I agree... BUT... with that said... the fact still stands this person fired from long range with a weapon which reached Steve, entered his calf and reached the bone...!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF he (perp) "was" shooting for the tires it doesn't matter (and nobody said this). Can anybody imagine if one of these shots caught him in the temple, ribs or throat from that range...?

You'll get your help soon folks....

Enough said....

 

[Red James Cash]

If i remember right the heaviest .22 pellet weighs in at 22 grams,a .22 longrifle averages 44 grams,though there are lighter .22 long rifle bullets.CCI stingers go 32 grams.The picture on the bottom left is a pellet.