The Panic Has Started****

[Treasure_Hunter]

FrankN: That you for serving our country. I have nothing but the utmost respect for veterans. If any of my comments appeared to imply otherwise then I apologize.

Jeff, TH, Packerbacker, Onfire, and Ivan: Thank you for sharing your intelligent comments. You have supplied me with some new thoughts. I do admit...I do not have a good definition of an assault rifle. Some of my ideas have been tainted by the media...I can see that now. I am going to bow out of this thread.

Crispin my friend, having meet you I know you as an intelligent man, my warning to members to tone it down some did not mean for you to stop posting your opinions... Only for members to stop the personal sniping at each other.......

 

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[bill from lachine]

TH,

My take on this for whatever it's worth....watching mostly from the sidelines lines....the far right crowd came at Crispin like a ton of bricks...don't blame him one bit for bowing out....and the hard hitters should be ashamed for not freely letting him express his views....

Regards + HH

Bill

 

[dieselram94]

I was allowing him his views however he stated some misinformation as well as coming out calling me the enemy. I know he is passionate about his views but that might have been a little much?

 

[Red James Cash]

My take on this for whatever it's worth....watching mostly from the sidelines lines....the far right crowd came at Crispin like a ton of bricks...don't blame him one bit for bowing out....and the hard hitters should be ashamed for not freely letting him express his views.

When people start posting their views using false information and they dont listen to solid facts, it seems to me they have nobody to blame except themselves.

 

[truckinbutch]

DieselRam: Thanks for the kind words and intelligent comments. I prefer to stay in America, but thanks for the suggestion. If a ban on your guns does pass Congress I'm going to ask the police if I can go to your house and pry yours out of your hands with them.

If you go to his house first I guess I won't have to worry about you coming to my house .

 

[dieselram94]

Hey, I don't mind taking one for the team . But I do treat all my guests the same... I always offer cookies and coffee before we get down to "business". I wouldn't want someone thinking I am rude or something...even if they are unwelcome!

If you go to his house first I guess I won't have to worry about you coming to my house .

 

[bill from lachine]

RJC,

Maybe we should do like survivor....do a poll and have a vote...Crispin, yourself and heck throw my name in there just for the fun of it....the member with the less votes gets kicked off the Island....you being such a great sort I'm sure would get the most votes...lol...

Regards + HH

Bill

When people start posting their views using false information and they dont listen to solid facts, it seems to me they have nobody to blame except themselves.

 

[Red James Cash]

Nah,survivor to me is getting taken a couple hundred miles out into the great north woods with just a knife and the clothes on your back.First one to walk back wins.Tv stuff = useless.

 

[truckinbutch]

Nah,survivor to me is getting taken a couple hundred miles out into the great north woods with just a knife and the clothes on your back.First one to walk back wins.Tv stuff = useless.

Takin a knife and wearin clothes is too much advantage . Read about John Coulter's run and do that survivor thing for real .

 

[Red James Cash]

Yup Truckin,If you can find it read the biography of Simon Kenton.I use to have the book years ago,I cant remember the name of it.He was the first white man in the ohio river valley after being captured by indians.He was hit in the head with a tomahawk after trying to escape.As the book stated when he did escape he walked something like 900 miles back in the dead of winter with just a blanket.Heres some i found on him.

A big man in stature and strength, his stamina was often tested as he endured the worst that was known to the frontier. During the winter of 1773, Simon and 2 companions were attacked around the campfire as they were drying their wet clothes. Yeager killed, the other two barely escaped naked. They finally met some longhunters on the banks of the Ohio River after a week of hunger and barefoot wandering in the Kentucky wilderness.

In September of 1778 Simon was captured by Shawnee Indians. He was tied, his hands bound, to a wild horse galloping through the trees. He was forced to run the infamous 1/4 mile "gauntlet" (which killed many prisoners) nine times. After the sixth, while attempting escape, had a hole hammered in his skull and was unconscience for two days. With a war club and axe, his arm and collarbone were broken. The indians called him "Cuttahotha" which means "condemned to be burned at the stake" which they attempted 3 times. Finally in June 1779 he was able to escape from Detroit. After a 30 day march he made it back to the American settlements.

Joel Collins, who was a young boy in 1782, has left a vivid description of the young captain as he looked when marching through Lexington. [Returning from Blue Licks.] "He was tall and well-proportioned," says Collins, "a countenance pleasant but dignified. There was nothing uncommon in his dress; his hunting shirt hung carelessly but gracefully on his shoulders; his other apparel was in common backwoods style."

The Indians also knew him as "The man who's gun is never empty" for his skill of running and reloading his faithful flintlock at the same time. He heroically risked his life to save many future Kentuckians not the least of which was his lifelong friend Daniel Boone. Another good friend and fellow soldier was George Rogers Clark.

 

[Dano Sverige]

This unarmed ex sailor. Is he holding a sign that states "Hey, I'm just a cook"? Because i'm totally missing the deterrance factor of this guy!

 

[jeff of pa]

This unarmed ex sailor. Is he holding a sign that states "Hey, I'm just a cook"? Because i'm totally missing the deterrance factor of this guy!

perhaps your right, that it is really only a empty gesture,
by having a presence that needs to be taken out first.
that could be accomplished by
a man in a suit with or without a suitcase or cellphone in hand,
Or rappers on the corner smoking a "dubie" ? Brother,
But hey If it makes Him & a few parents feel comfortable, what's the problem ?
considering his fear of people, even a couple gangbangers sitting in front of the school
would have scared him

my point if it's lost in translation,
If there had been someone Hanging out in the parking lot of the School in CT,
is there any chance at all, it would have either Spooked him,
or made him show his hand by taking that loiterer out first ?

 

[Chips]

Hey on the other hand, if everyone was packing some heat, then some loser shows up at a school. He pulls out his semi auto,,,, only to be met by 50 pointing back at him.
Gosh if that gutless turd wanted to off himself that much(as bad as that maybe) why didn't he just do it, with out taking the lives of the innocent.
I got have some respect for one of the father's of the fallen. He was very forgiving.
He is a greater man than me as, I wouldn't be!
Dang I be kicking over that looser's grave stone for many years to come.
I just hope we have seen the last of this kind of thing.

 

[dieselram94]

The NRA's suggestion is the best one so far. Arm some teachers and principles. The best deterrent is another gun pointed at the bad guy.

 

[Frankn]

Yes, the NRA Put some thought into it before coming out with a statement that would actually work, but the banners and liberal press aren't interested in solutions that will work, only banning guns. Frank

 

[Red James Cash]

They dont want us being humans,they want automatrons.

 

[Rawhide]

The AR-15 has been protecting this country by our military for a long time. It used to be a veteran took his firearm home when he was discharged. Now this same weapon, tool of democracy and freedom is being taken away. It isnt a pretty rifle. It isnt made for deer hunting. It is designed to kill. So when some guy does just that we all must be punished by taking something that has worked so good away. If the guy didnt have a weapon he would have used a brick. Anyone that determined to do harm like the guy in Connecticut will find a way. No one is ever safer by being unarmed. I think Dicks did a good thing by removing certain types of weapons. There is enough laws in place to protect us from the assault rifle or any weapon already. Maybe we should focus on how these unstable people are getting to the weapons in the first place. I dont believe it was his parents fault, nor a video game, or even the guy who sold the rifle in the first place. The rifle is getting a bad name for doing what it was designed to do. In light of all the familys going through grief right now, I dont blame any one of them for wanting all weapons banned. We have got no closure in this as a the bad guy took his own life. We cant punish him, nor make a example for those who would try this in the future. I think people are just reacting blindly as we realize we just dont have any control. So we must control the guns. It all comes down to statistcs, a certain number of any population is gonna do bad things. Dont get rid of the guns, get a better gun safe.

 

[strickman]

pens wrote laws that allow thousands ,and thousands of innocent to be murdered (abortion) .did they outlaw pens ?

 

[dieselram94]

pens wrote laws that allow thousands ,and thousands of innocent to be murdered (abortion) .did they outlaw pens ?

No but the paper came close because of spotted owl.

 

[Dano Sverige]

Yes, the NRA Put some thought into it before coming out with a statement that would actually work, but the banners and liberal press aren't interested in solutions that will work, only banning guns. Frank

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Lol, there was NO thought put into it whatsoever! It's a panicked "band aid" solution at best.
To take a page from the pro gun "book of feeble excuses and cures" - The only way to cure bullying is to give every kid a bodyguard?

While i have no doubt there'll be teachers willing to tote a gun, it's my experience that many teachers are those bleeding heart liberals you're all so fixated about, who wouldn't touch a gun if you shoved one into their mouths! How are you going to get around that problem? Fire all those who refuse to carry one? Replace them with willing teachers, probably "foriegners", and then complain further down the line how they've taken Americans jobs?

As i said elsewhere, it's a pretty pathetic statement from the NRA, (along with the added "violent video games" ticket they threw in also) and i'd have respected them and many of the folks here, if they'd just taken the hit on the chin...and stayed quiet!