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1800's Map to the Lost Dutchman. Hundreds of claims. Pick one. Bet one is the LDM. I like the Pioneer district by Rodgers. Look at the claims around the Silver King.View attachment 2221730View attachment 2221731View attachment 2221732
1800's Map to the Lost Dutchman. Hundreds of claims. Pick one. Bet one is the LDM. I like the Pioneer district by Rodgers. Look at the claims around the Silver King. I have Jack's map collection and this map was in the pile. Next time I talk to him I'll ask where he found it. I suspect the Silver King. It was printed in 1882. Could not fit the whole map in the photo. As I said before if you want gold and silver go where it was found before. There is a huge mining history east of the Superstitions.View attachment 2221730View attachment 2221731View attachment 2221732
1800's Map to the Lost Dutchman. Hundreds of claims. Pick one. Bet one is the LDM. I like the Pioneer district by Rodgers. Look at the claims around the Silver King. I have Jack's map collection and this map was in the pile. Next time I talk to him I'll ask where he found it. I suspect the Silver King. It was printed in 1882. Could not fit the whole map in the photo. As I said before if you want gold and silver go where it was found before. There is a huge mining history east of the Superstitions.View attachment 2221730View attachment 2221731View attachment 2221732
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Frank, that's the keys to the kingdom! I love that area down around Martinez and Box...

That's the Gustavus Cox map...I think Jack Carlson found it in his research of the Rogers area but I might be wrong...it's been awhile and my ol' brain is foggy.

That map and the Land Matters website is about the best way to find stuff. Alot of the area is under current claim, the Land Matters website will have up to date land ownership and/or claim status.
 
Yes...Jack Carlson was doing a bunch of research on the Rogers Canyon area back in the 1990's. If I'm remembering the events properly (no guarantee) Carlson found the Gustavus Cox map in an archive...I'm wanting to say U of A or NAU, but I could be remembering it wrong.

Either Jack (Carlson or San Felice) should be able to give the proper background on it. As I remember, the claim boxes on the Cox map were pretty dang accurate (but not perfect) and Jack Carlson went out and hiked the Rogers Canyon area to verify on the ground.
 
So who can put together the Tex Barkley Ruth map with the 1882 claim map? X marks gold. One found.
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Yes...Jack Carlson was doing a bunch of research on the Rogers Canyon area back in the 1990's. If I'm remembering the events properly (no guarantee) Carlson found the Gustavus Cox map in an archive...I'm wanting to say U of A or NAU, but I could be remembering it wrong.

Either Jack (Carlson or San Felice) should be able to give the proper background on it. As I remember, the claim boxes on the Cox map were pretty dang accurate (but not perfect) and Jack Carlson went out and hiked the Rogers Canyon area to verify on the ground.
If you find one its easy to line up the row. Depends on the brush.
 
View from the above the Pit Mine area
 

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So who can put together the Tex Barkley Ruth map with the 1882 claim map? X marks gold. One found. View attachment 2221854
First of all, the feathered arrow on the map prompts to a reversed/mirrored image reading. And, there are not landmarks named on the map, so the map is useless without the oral or written waybill from the map maker.
This map is a "candy" for those who want to make speculations, because literally is a map for nowhere and is free for any interpretation.
Yes, there were mines in the east Superstitions, but were all modern prospects ( after Mexican's mining ). Can anyone find any record of how much gold produced every gold mining claim in that area? To me, seems the most if not all were bogus claims without any proof of gold, just to possess the land in case something will bring out in the future or someone will say how in their claim is something worth buried. I saw that happening in the west Superstitions and in other states, in regions where there were rumors of existing treasures or gold mines.
 
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That's pretty much where I found the map fit as well. My version is a tad lower (down one canyon by S SE), but virtually identical.

Frank keeps claiming it's where Byous Butte is located, but I've tried working it in that area time and time again - but really get no good match up. Once I realized that, I proceeded in looking at other areas and I came up with, what you posted. Right now, I don't have a way to show the overlapping of both maps - but it fits IMHO.

-SpartanOC
 
First of all, the feathered arrow on the map prompts to a reversed/mirrored image reading. And, there are not landmarks named on the map, so the map is useless without the oral or written waybill from the map maker.
This map is a "candy" for those who want to make speculations, because literally is a map for nowhere and is free for any interpretation.
Yes, there were mines in the east Superstitions, but were all modern prospects ( after Mexican's mining ). Can anyone find any record of how much gold produced every gold mining claim in that area? To me, seems the most if not all were bogus claims without any proof of gold, just to possess the land in case something will bring out in the future or someone will say how in their claim is something worth buried. I saw that happening in the west Superstitions and in other states, in regions where there were rumors of existing treasures or gold mines.
Markmar

I do have to say - with regards to your claim of it should be reversed, this due to the feathered arrow, but a feathered arrow doesn't always mean reverse the image. Just saying...but I get it, it's a good observation as there are some that do need reversing in my opinion.
-spartanOC
 
The problem is, when I make a stetement which could be true, all are doubting me, but when Frank says how in that map is depicted Byous Butte, nobody ask how he came to that conclusion. It's something magical in that find or is a reverse engineering from the already found mines location? Just sain...
 
The problem is, when I make a stetement which could be true, all are doubting me, but when Frank says how in that map is depicted Byous Butte, nobody ask how he came to that conclusion. It's something magical in that find or is a reverse engineering from the already found mines location? Just sain...
Markmar

Many have asked Frank in the past - as to how he got his idea and he's given his reasons. It's not a new question, as I've asked it in the past. Not everyone believes it belongs at Byous Butte though...
I do though value Frank, his statements AND his experiences. His opinions are valuable and he's earned his knowledge over the years - he's been out there and worked his theories.

-SpartanOC
 
Markmar

Many have asked Frank in the past - as to how he got his idea and he's given his reasons. It's not a new question, as I've asked it in the past. Not everyone believes it belongs at Byous Butte though...
I do though value Frank, his statements AND his experiences. His opinions are valuable and he's earned his knowledge over the years - he's been out there and worked his theories.

-SpartanOC
Frank is a story teller, like all his friends who passed their "knowledge" to him. My nose is bigger than Frank's experience and knowledge concerning Superstitions.
 
Frank is a story teller, like all his friends who passed their "knowledge" to him. My nose is bigger than Frank's experience and knowledge concerning Superstitions.
Markmar

Let me ask you this. Have you ever been out there in the Superstition Mountains?
-SpartanOC
 

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