Treasure Clue, can you help?

Here is my "take" on the locations. First consider the author. The man is not dumb. He is very smart. Now consider the rules. If you read the rules, anyone finding a token by accident may not get the jewels so they could be found by accident.

Now "reverse engineer" the puzzle applying the clues that you know. Where could you put the tokens so that they would not easily be found by accident, yet you could give clues in one chapter that will direct the reader to the exact spot.

For example, say you have hidden a token in at a football field. Now it would be easy to hide the name of the football field in the story (ie every forth letter of every forth word would give the name of the football field). But a football field is a large area to find a token that is not very big (does anyone know the size of a token? Is it bigger than a silver dollar?

Now how would you give the location of the token in the football field? Say you have attached it to the bottom of a seat in the stands. When was the last time you look or felt underneath a seat? Wouldn't that be in a public place, outside, above eye level, you wouldn't have to open anything, it would not be easily found, you could find it crossing a field, etc.

Say you decoded Chapter 1 and came up with:

UOFH-D-bb-ll5

Would that give you enough to locate a token hidden underneath seat 115 in row bb, in section D at the University of Houston's football field?

Are there 12 public football fields within a day's drive of every place in the Continental USA?

Could a token remain hidden underneath that seat for a couple of years?

In 1982, I placed a brand new shiny penny on a edge above the telephone in one of the most popular restaurant in town. Every time I would go to the restaurant, I would check on the penny. It stayed there until 2003 when they remodeled the place.

It was always in view and since it was by the entry, hundreds of thousands of people passed by. No one bothered it.

So, where would you put the tokens? Then work out your puzzle and see how you would hide the clues.

By the way, remember the prior Treasure (where the golden horse was hidden in a public place)?

Do you REALLY believe it was buried in the ground? If you still have the book, consider this:

What if the golden horse was in a US Mail box which had a combination lock instead of a key. Could the author have easily hidden clues that would allow the reader to go directly to mailbox and open it?

Consider: 77205-0651 10 4 8

A nine digit zipcode gives the exact mailbox!

Is there ANY public place safer than a US Mailbox? As long as the rent is paid, the post office will not remove anything from it. So if you want to hide something, put it in a mailbox. But remember that this treasure is outdoors!

Now see what you can come up with!

BTW, 77205-0651 is my mailbox and they did change it to keys instead of combinations. Also you can mail something to a mailbox just using the 9 digit zipcode.

As for the author's name "Stadther" it is an unusual name. Check the Social Security death database.

Consider the author's history. Where has he lived? And where does he live now? It is all in his bio page. A person usually writes about what they know.

Consider his background. Computer programmer = numbers! Binary numbers no less! 01000001 = A

Consider latitude and longitude with enough digits will give you the EXACT place on earth.

As for the numbers on the page where the fairy is pointing to the numbers:

6 5 14 4 13 7 8 2 3 15 9 10 1 12 11

How many letters are those (hint: 15). A code requires a KEY. The simplest KEY is the alphabeth a=1 b=2 c=3 etc.

Did you notice that his name (Michael Stadther) also has 15 letters!

Just some thoughts!

Stephen Coffman
 

ChilliJilli,

Thank you for asking him about his religion for me, I didn't mean to get anyone worked up over religion.
Did you feel he wouldn't comment about his religion because it wasn't relevant?

I wanted to thank everyone for all the help they've given in this forum.

Gemini your anagram for the dream was great! thanks

:)
whisper
 

For New Puzzle Hunters,
Here is a summary of what we have so far:
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Page_2 = 6 5 14 4 13 7 8 2 3 15 9 10 1 12 11
Title of Book has 15 letters "A Treasure's Trove"
becomes = Save Our Tree's Art

Page_10 = HIDDEN WELL NO EYE CAN SEE

Page_16 (Hidden Ladybug) = BELOW SKYS AND ABOVE EARTH BE

Page_19 = ??? Picture of Zac, Pook, and carpenter tools

Page_20-1 = tReasuRes tweleve foR you to keep

Page_22 (Hidden Caterpillar) = AROUND THe STATeS TWeLeVe PLACeS TO SeeK

Page_25 (Hidden Dragonfly) = not on private property nor in anyone's hands

Page_28 (Hidden Firefly)

Page_31 (Hidden Ladybug) = NOTHING TO BE DISTURBED THRU THE LANDS
and morse code sub-puzzle = NEAR THE OVERLOOK

Page_33 (Hidden Firefly) = Each is outside for you to find

Page_36 = ??? Picture of Lots of Fairies

Page_37 (Hidden Bumblebee)

Page_38-9 (Hidden Caterpillar) = NO DIGGING OR PRYING JUST REACH INSIDE

Page_41 (Hidden Hummingbird) = AN EVEN CODE WITH ONE PIECE NARY

Page_44 (Hidden Dragonfly) = ??? Picture of Pook, Fairies, and Mushrooms

Page_45 (Hidden Ant)

Page_46 = WILL SPELL OUT THE SANCTUARY

Page_48 = WITHIN THE TEXT YOU HAVE THE KEY

Page_52 (2 Hidden Butterflys) = FOR THE ONE THAT IS MISSING YOU DID NOT SEE

Page_55 (Hidden Hummingbird) = ??? Picture of Army of Monsters

Page_59 (Hidden Grasshopper) = A CODE OF NUMBERS FIVE TO A SIDE

Page_63 (Hidden Beetle) = REVEALS THE NAME WHERE THE TREASURES ABIDE
and color coded sub-puzzle = FIND THE TREES HOLE

Page_65 (Hidden Slug)

Page_66 (2 Hidden Snails) With name in Hand the FAiRies Know

Page_68 = ??? Picture of Darklings

Page_69 (Hidden Beetle) = AND THEY WILL SHOW YOU WHERE TO GO

Page_77 = there are thirteen (fully seen when picture is folded just right)
and on Ana's scarf on fore-arm Roman Numerals = 27234 which is Zip Code to COLUMBUS,OHIO

Page_78 = Seize your token and reach your goal

Page_80 = ??? Picture of Rusful in Grotto

Page_83 = The Secret is not half, but it is not whole (maybe says KNOTHOLE at end?)

Page_86 THE DREAM has poem "moon like moon like, Dreamer one on ending. I cause your puzzling"
is an ANAgram for "look in me, look in me. Under rizing moon, a goulden prize yu can see"

page_88 (Hidden Bumblebee)

Page_93 = ??? Picture of Crystal Pook

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2 spiders not found
(not convinced they are on Page 20-1

Missing other ANT
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Dandelion drawn on many pages is the
same EXACT dandelion redrawn.

Green Flower Fairy pointing is same
EXACT fairy redrawn.

and other things...
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HandGems,

Great Summary! Don't forget the morse code around the border on Page 31 that decodes to "near the overlook" with a last character meaning interrogatory or "did you get it".

How many "other things" are in your list?

Jewels
 

Thanks HandGems,
Also...
1)I see on p.46 in the bottom left corner there are 2 small rocks. Just to the top right of the rock on the right is a little number "6" or the little squiggle next to it might be a zero, so "60"...or if they are letters and the 6 is actually a "G", then the word says "Go".

2) Also on p. 46 if you turn the book so that you're looking up from the spine of the book, on the branch pointing up 2nd from the right there is what appears to me to be another "G".

Have no clue what any of this might mean. Any bright ideas out there?

H
 

You are right. That is definitely a number-6 above that 2nd rock.

You know on page 19, on an OAK LEAF near the bottom left corner is a noticeable ROMAN NUMERALS again on a leaf that is a 3-2-2.

Now the ZipCode 03220 is BELMONT, NH.

I have input many possible zipcodes that I have thought I have seen on many pages and most are gibberish and mean nothing, so I get excited when a 5-digit number I enter on the zipcode finder actually equates to a real location.

So far we have BELMONT, NH and the other one that says COLUMBUS, OH.

Are we getting close to solving anything? :)
 

On Page 45, I think the fairy is pointing to the letter "A" below the dragon's neck. No idea what the significance is though.
 

Hi: have been reading posts for a while. I agree with you all on everything so far. You all are talking about Roman Numerals. Look on page 38. Tell me what you think about the upper left hand corner. You see a big "X" then a real small vii. does this mean 10511? Tell me what you all think. I have to look up if that is a real zip.
 

Page 55. Bottom far right hand side. Measure 2 and 3/4 inches up from the top of the page. Now turn the book clockwise (so page 54 would be to the top). Doesn't it look like there is the #57? Now look directly at the opposite side of the border. There are quite a few 57s all down the border or am I just imagining it?
 

Okay, everyone is missing the ant. On page 86 bottom left hand on tree. There is a black little design. Turn the book upside down. could that be the ant?
 

Im a newbe I just wanted to let eveyone know I believe
the tree branch above zac and pook on pg 19
says A HILL IN NH ....tell me what you think
 

Page 86 is definitely a bug but I think we are also missing the second grasshopper in addition to the ant. I see the hill in NH also.
 

Grasshoppers are on pages 59 (in the purple Y) and 86 (bottom of the tree). You can see that they are exactly the same shape. The ants are on pages 77 (he is in the "squiggly" lines at the bottom, upside down, and about 2/3 of the page to the right) and page 45 (second sqare in at the bottom of the dragon).
 

I reply to Gaines and others, does anyone else think the tools on page 19 spell out words? I am new to this site and spent quite a while reading this topic last night. Very interesting. I am definitely hooked on this book. Anyway, back to page 19... I think I can read
" for solution on ploy (or plot) seek a hole ?book key." Solution is across the top of the border. Each tool connects to the next letter, but I'm having trouble making some shapes into sensible letters. Any thoughts?
 

This is a great clue, but can you help me find the first letter? Where is the "F" for the start? Also, this fits with my theory that "Hint:Tackle Repositorys" anagrams to "Cipher Key Start in Tools". I have felt that the beginning of the cipher key was on this page, but couldn't find it. I base this on page 48 which has the hint "Within the Text You Have the Key". On that page is a listing of all the tools shown on page 19. I think there really is a connection!
 

Look at approximately 9 oclock position. The grey right angled tool has a file and the end of the drill on it. That makes the "f". The ball of the drill makes the "o" and the next drill bit with the end of the file and the t-square make the "r". The Hatchet with the handle of the wheel makes the "s" to start the word "solution." You have to use your imagination, but I think these tools are intended to be letters. Too bad Michael can't comment. Hope this helps. If any of you read other words than I have, please SHARE! Thanks!
 

Did anyone notice that on page 19 in the lower left corner, that one of the leaves has bands on it? Its like 3, 2, 2. Also along the center left edge, leg of a compass has something written on it. The other compass at the bottom also looks like it has something on it.

I dont know much about woodworking but is there a reason for 2 different axes on the page? One in the upper left corner and another one to the right of Zac's head.
 

Hi :)

could someone explain how they found "a code of numbers five to a side" on page 77?
I folded the border together and could read "there are thirteen", but i haven't been able to see that other part.
thanks,
whisper
 

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