Treasure Clue, can you help?

I rechecked the 12gems website to see when MS will be on there this weekend but there is no new info to share. ?I again feel that we need to focus on pgs 20-21 until we can get something from them. ?I love to see the color count. ?I am impressed, I didn't have the patience for that one. ?I still think that the colors mean something, ?if not the state flags then what? ?Any ideas.
 

OKAY EVERYONE, honest it's all almost done . the last two i have found. i'll start with the hardest one to explain. ?pg. 66 ?follow the fairy's feet below the line of the drop cap box. you'll see the #5. directly above the #5 is the face of the caterpillar. if you follow behind the swirly line i believe is his right eye the other eye also a swirly line ?to the left .ok look behind right eye at the segmented shapes going back into the bottom right hand corner of the drop cap box is the caterpillars body. it looks as if its coming out of the box in 3-d. ?onto the last ....the ladybug pg. 44 , sorry but this one will be hard to spot like the bee ) ?go to bottom left corner where the twin girls are sitting. look at the space between the foot of the left fairy ?and the blue flower. next to her elbow are 2 leaves i believe to be ladybugs spots on her back. now go to the tip of the fairy's toe there is it loks to me a twig or branch . it is the shape of the antennae. the orange background filling in as the body. thanks everyone for bearing with me on these posts. these are all i've found so far i am still looking for the butterfly, firefly, and grasshopper. if i find them i'll post them. i understand these do not look exactly like the creatures visibly shown to us throughout the book. i believe they were made as a part of the art work to throw us off our hunt. i believe ms. gave us all the first set very visibly and that all the clues or hints we have found in the beginning of this hunt are very much the tip of the onion. please all again i would like very much all honest posts on these creatures in fact i welcome it.
 

NOLEMISTER, if you find any info on these poems let me know . i do also find it very interesting.
 

? ? I can see a couple of the bugs that you are talking about but I think my eyes are to tired (I'm not 14 years old anymore) to see them all. ?i will have to look again in the AM. ?Good luck to all and happy hunting.

Tracie
 

I just finished reading both of the Top Helen poems, A Dream, and A Dream Within A Dream nothing there.
 

LITDOC, geez what is your problem? i'm really tired of your tired attitude. on pg 21 you went off on muzette and have made snide comments ?many posts . your posts do nothing but belittle new comers who are trying to come up to speed with all of us. i can understand your digs at me and am woman enough to take it. please look through your book and find a clue you can bring to this forum other than rehashing over the same stuff thats already been said or reading the rules to every one . we all know where the rules are. i do believe someone on this forum will find a token . so please with the negativity . you'll run us off. i ?brought up the poe poem because i found it interesting to our hunt here and that the coincidence of the poem to the dedication in this book were good. i also thought it would interest you seeing as this is within your area of expertise. i dont need a lesson on how a good husband behaves towards to his wife. ?HINT= WERE ON A TEEASURE HUNT.
 

In the To Helen poem (The 1848 printing), there are many things that stick out at me. First, there is references made about the moon many times in this poem. "A full-orbed moon, that, like thine own soul, soaring,
sought a precipitate pathway up through heaven" "I saw thee half reclining; while the moon
Fell on the upturn'd faces of the roses" This next quote befuddles me LOL but it moght be a reference to the dust that rusful pours on the forest each nite. ?"The pearly lustre of the moon went out:
The mossy banks and the meandering paths,
The happy flowers and the repining trees,
Were seen no more: the very roses' odors
Died in the arms of the adoring airs.
All?all expired save thee?save less than thou:
Save only the divine light in thine eyes-
Save but the soul in thine uplifted eyes.
I saw but them?they were the world to me!
I saw but them?saw only them for hours,
Saw only them until the moon went down.
What wild heart-histories seemed to he enwritten" ?
Upon those crystalline, celestial spheres! hmmmmm maybe there is writing on the moon in the pictures. This last quote maybe of importance but i haven't figured it out yet. "My duty, to be saved by their bright light,
And purified in their electric fire,
And sanctified in their elysian fire.
They fill my soul with Beauty (which is Hope),
And are far up in Heaven?the stars I kneel to
In the sad, silent watches of my night;
While even in the meridian glare of day
I see them still?two sweetly scintillant
Venuses, unextinguished by the sun!"

I found another poem by Poe called Fairy-Land which definitely has references and undertones related to the book. I will list the complete poem so you guys can make whatever ou want of it.

"Dim vales?and shadowy floods-
And cloudy-looking woods,
Whose forms we can't discover
For the tears that drip all over!
Huge moons there wax and wane-
Again?again?again-
Every moment of the night-
Forever changing places-
And they put out the star-light
With the breath from their pale faces.
About twelve by the moon-dial,
One more filmy than the rest
(A kind which, upon trial,
They have found to be the best)
Comes down?still down?and down,
With its centre on the crown
Of a mountain's eminence,
While its wide circumference
In easy drapery falls
Over hamlets, over halls,
Wherever they may be-
O'er the strange woods?o'er the sea-
Over spirits on the wing-
Over every drowsy thing-
And buries them up quite
In a labyrinth of light-
And then, how deep!?O, deep!
Is the passion of their sleep.
In the morning they arise,
And their moony covering
Is soaring in the skies,
With the tempests as they toss,
Like?almost anything-
Or a yellow Albatross.
They use that moon no more
For the same end as before-
Videlicet, a tent-
Which I think extravagant:
Its atomies, however,
Into a shower dissever,
Of which those butterflies
Of Earth, who seek the skies,
And so come down again,
(Never-contented things!)
Have brought a specimen
Upon their quivering wings." HAVE FUN WITH IT! ?:)

---Nolan
 

Just got the book yesterday and am trying to come up to speed... I had noticed the To Helen as well and was figuring on that being something of interest as it is the same colour as the code... another thing is on 41 i read somewhere that they thought the cracker on pg. 41 looked like nevada. on this my girlfriend thought the cup resembled a tee pee (i'm sorry if that is not how you spell it, and anyone is now upset with me...) I was looking into any indian casinos on (near) a lake... ???
ANYWAY... probably nothing
 

Hey CMSCHUT...just wanted to let you know that at first i did not see the beetle at first but with the help of my sister over my shoulder i now see it very clever!!!!!! :D
 

another thing on the same pict... the fairy is pointing to a "z" with a box (like in the dream) with five boxes on each side. if there are no other boxes in the middle (as i drew out the first time i looked at it) there adds up to be 16... and this is on page 16... I'm really tired... and i think i am rambling...
sooooo.... good luck
 

JUSTANOTHERGIRL, glad you could see it. when i found it the other day i at first thought it was the spider. after looking at it though i realized it was the beetle. i had thought i found the beetle on another page of the book . i think i was stretchig on the the 1st beetle and couldnt add it to my list. when i stumbled onto this one though it confirmed my opinion . so i am open to anyones thoughts and i am glad you replied. any luck on the others? i wanted to say last night that after finding these i decided that maybe i should try to view things as ms looked at it. i hope you understand what i was trying to say . look at this book through ms's eyes. well have a great day everyone. i'll look forward to any ideas on my posts when i get home from work. carol
 

Hi Valkjosand, there are several casinos on Lake Tahoe in Nevada. None of them are operated by Native Americans, though. Hope this helps. :)
 

I think you can logically say that if the 5 to a side box did not have boxes in the middle,and added up to 16, it would not make sense. Personally, in my opinion, I think that the 5x5 box has a direct relationship to the alphabet. Just my two cents.

---Nolan

P.S. QBHF 16 JT EJSFDUMZ SFMBUFE UP QBHF 31. MPPL QBTU UIF GBFSJFT BOE NPSTF DPEF. MJUFSBMMZ. ;D
 

Hey Nolan, yes, that is a popular theory: 5 x 5 = 25, the letters of the alphabet minus the Q, which no one has found in the text of the book. It is also missing from the alphabet blocks illustration. What do you make of it?
 

Patchy:

The book was published without a title and the contest was for the readers to figure out the title. The title ended up being: Bee on a Comb.
 

Litdoc, I think that if everyone sticks with the poem, it will lead you in the right direction. Obviously, since no one has found any tokens yet, we are not looking at this poem the right way. We must not take it literally, but look at it at angle in which the poem makes sense and fits together like pieces of a puzzle. All of these clues that people have found by using a magnifying glass and other methods are probably not crucial clues. These are just used to back up the statements found in the poem. Look up the definition of every word stated in the poem except for articles and the word and. Look past the commonly used definitions of these words and maybe they will all fit together.

---Nolan

P.S. The post that BlackBeard made about Interstate 80, it only passes through 11 states. Good try though. LOL
 

hey folks
i was wonderinbg if anybody noticed the stone on p 80 whcih looks like an arrow. it might be that there were post about this before but quite honestly i was too lazy to read through the 22 pages of the forum(i got the book yesterday). os, if u know anything, plz let me know, thx
mistermullen
 

Hi Nolan,

I agree if young people have to look through a magnifying glass to see something--it probably is not a clue. However, we older people might need it to clearly see the big clues! (I bought one yesterday.) Keep in mind that the typical painting for a picture book is shrunk to about 25% its original size.

There are many codes in this book that we have only begun to look at. I think, therein lie the specific clues. What you you think?
 

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