Treasure Clue, can you help?

[LitDoc]

That was supposed to read "Standard English syntax," the latter meaning sentence structure.

 

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[jacksprat]

hello all. still newbie. have read the book many times and am still finding clues every time. pictures and text are starting to come together. keep reading and sharing the fun with your families. the answer will show itself when we learn to look for it.

 

[zuse]

I corrected the mistakes I made in my March 20th FORUM post. Sorry for the mistakes - thanks to everyone for the corrections. I must have been tired when I typed that! I did not intend to mislead. Zuse

 

[just another girl]

Hello all!!! Ok this is only my second time posting anything on here and i am not sure if it is anything or not. I have read all the posts on here but there is so much that i can't remember what all has been said about the "Ye Nomenclature of Faeries" book but i have been up most of the night messing around with the name and have come up with 2 anagrams for it. Like i said it may be nothing but thought i would post it anyways and you can make of it what you like. The first is " If eyes of nature come see" and the other is "I come free only nature safe". I am still messing around with it and will let you know if i find any more.

 

[mwksportsfreak]

NARY!!!!!!

one piece nary: Nary means not one!!! one piece, not one??

it is burning in my mind

 

[Gaines]

Pancho,
? ? I admire your commitment, but I am uncertain that we can really "nail down this poem" until someone finds a token. ?Even if "there are 13" is not part of the poem, it is part of the book and a clue anyway. ?My feeling is still that some of the poem is applicable especially to the page that it is located on while other parts may apply to the entire hunt. For example, "an even code with one piece nary will spell out sanctuary". ?Now, I do not believe that ALL 13 treasurers will be found with this "even code, but maybe quite a few will. ?It is the same with the "code of numbers, five to a side". ?So, until someone finds a token and comes forth with the method, it is all unknown. ?It is possible, too, that Stadther did not want a poem with a perfect rhyme scheme, just to throw us off! ?My goal is still to stay very open minded. ?As soon as I run down some bunny trail (and stay there too long), I am danger of running into a ditch! ?One example of my own situation is some of the intense focus that I gave some of the earlier theories (letters in knotholes, words in pictures, etc). ?I abandoned them as newer things came along, but now am forcing myself to look at them again afresh. ?The same old dilemma remains - how much time and energy to give to each aspect of the book. ?It is good that you are working of the poem as I have not spent much time on it. ?Also, you did convince me about the missing "e" in on(e) piece nary! Of course, all of the above are just MY thoughts and should be taken with a very large grain of salt!

 

[CMSCHUT]

GAINES, those were my thoughts exactly.

I believe ms put everything in this book for a reason. i also think we do not know how signifigant or how insignifgant each thing is until we find a token. someone reminded me while i was on my hunt for hidden creatures ( i was worried that i was putting to much into finding them ) ,that MS. did not intentionally put anything in here to throw us off. sorry but you hit home with what you said and i felt i needed to give you a high 5 . carol

 

[tsa]

I think that I've been slightly misunderstood.? No, MS isn't going to do a backround check on anyone.? I just think that the puzzles are designed so that an aggressive, greedy person will look over the important parts.? I'm also not saying anything bad about anyone here.? In fact, I think that anyone willing to post their work online to help others and to work together proves that the people contributing to this conversation are not greedy at all and are very nice people.? I just want to post something that I feel could lead to someone here getting one or more of the jewels.? So look for things that look like they might have no connection at all to the puzzles, and they might lead you to a jewel.? As for the text instead of the pictures, what I mean is that the text will tell you how to use the pictures.? An aggressive, greedy person would probably ignore the story and just look at the pictures for things that directly link to the jewels.? But if you read the back of the book, it says that there are clues throughout the book that lead to twelve (notice that it doesn't say tweleve) puzzles that, when solved, will lead you to the jewels.? I think that the clues are really in the text, and the "clues" in the pictures are really the puzzles.? If I'm correct, filling the boxes with 25 numbers should lead us to a jewel.? Also, last I checked, there was some confusion over what the poem found in the pictures meant.? Try looking for clues in the text, too, for after all, "within the text you have the key".? This is only an opinion, but I've been trying it and it seems to be working.? I've also noticed that what I've been saying has been causing some nasty posts, which I didn't mean to have happen.? Some of my posts may look a little bratty, but I don't mean for them to be that way; I just want to help with the search as much as I can.? When I saw you talking about binary and stuff, I didn't mean to brag by saying that I knew a lot about codes like that, I meant that if anybody needed something decoded, they could post it online and I would decode it for them.? Sometimes I accidentally say stuff like that without thinking, especially if I'm in a bad mood at the time.? If I say more stuff like that, just ignore it; I'll try my best to make it so that you don't have to ignore anything, and I don't want to turn this place into a site full of nasty comments.? If my posts are doing this, I don't think that they're being read the way I intend them to be read.? Sorry for posting some info that has already been said; I try not to do that, but it's hard to remember what has already been posted, and I can't go through all twenty-five pages every time I have something to say.? I just don't want to read this brilliant information and use it without giving something in return, so I try to post anything that I think may help other people with the search.? I also have had a bad cold for a while, and, like most people, I get grumpy when I'm sick.

I still think that we should pay more attention to the text than we currently are, though.? It might answer some of our questions.

 

[LitDoc]

I am thinking that the 18 rhyming lines are the first layer of clues. I believe codes in each of the full page illustrations (often in the borders) are the second layer (e.g., "Near the overlook). Perhaps the third layer is within the text. Pancho has posted his theory a couple of times about the three tiered clues needed to find each token.

However, I want to remind all that you should interpret each rhyming couplet in the poem as a unit of meaning. Therefore, "Within the text you have the key for the one that is missing you did not see," does not say that the text holds the keys to all the puzzles--one for "the one that is missing (you did not see)." Now, what one thing is missing?

 

[Flying Dutchman]

Hey everyone, First time writing long time reader.....Has anyone thought of the number of cities named Linden in relation to the numer of jewels. 13 total in the US. I've been reseaching Linden Michigan, I will update as I learn more. Good hunting!

 

[silentplanet]

Has anyone considered the text about the GREAT FOREST in the prolouge, chapters 1 & 2. amd the trees expression on page 31 not to mean a "Petrified Forest"? It's just a thought not sure I'm correct but it does add up.

 

[nolemiester]

look at page 16 at the box of assorted colors. Now, make a 5X5 matrix substituting the colors for letters. Make sure you leave out the letter Q. Now, if you own a scanner or have access to one, you will have a much better advantage at solving this clue. Now, take page 16 and scan it. After you scanned it, blow up the colored box to full page size and print it out. Now, In conjunction with the colored background/border that is behind the faeries spelling out letters, use the 5X5 alphabet matrix and the blown up color box and try decoding the colors into letters. This is the 5X5 alphabet matrix i was talking about.
ABCDE
FGHIJ
KLMNO
PRSTU
VWXYZ
I just wanted someone else's input on it. Thanks.

---Nolan

 

[LitDoc]

SS and others,

I believe the so called subpoem is bogus and fits in the same category as Jet's solutions to finding all the tokens. Not a single person has been able to find these lines anywhere in the book. Unless we do so, consider it so much BS, so I suggest we stop wasting our time on it.

We have found the 24 hidden creatures and the 18 lines of a poem visible in alphabetic letters. I belive the next step is to find the coded lines. (See the companion book to find which codes MS may have used.)

"Near the overlook" in Morse code is one such lines. Perhaps "There are thirteen" is another since we had to combine two different parts of a page to see it (unlike the other 18 lines that were visible to the trained eye).

Which codes to you think are used in the book?

 

[Lesstrice]

Hi all, Can anyone tell me if I find a token can I go on my local news with it before I redeem it?

 

[CMSCHUT]

LITDOC, ? i have thought of this many times . i've seen only where he used morse code for a clue. if he used it more than just that once i've not seen it posted , nor can i find any. after the morse code was revealed i searched the book as i think everyone did , i came up with zip. so what i've been thinking for awhile is that he used at least each code from the companion book once . i just was thinking if he gave us all these types of puzzles why wouldn't he use them all. i also think maybe that's a way ?for him to really send us on a hunt. using a different code,cipher, puzzle, etc . for each seperate token. i wonder how many different puzzles he had in the companion book. weel just a thought to throw out there, but you do bring a good idea for us all to think about .

 

[raven]

Hi Nolan any look with blowing it up and using the colors i tried that a few days back didn't get anything also I tried just using the same grid pattern with out colors to see where they were pointing in the grid and didn't get anything that made any sense both without using the Q like in your example. Charles

 

[bcktobasics]

for the one that is missing is pook (the crystal dog) the thirteenth treasure Just a thought that might help you come to some other clues

 

[BonnyBlue]

Is it my imagination or does the Border on page 31 remind anyone else of the Monopoly Game Board in its layout and colors?? Or have I gone total Bonkers??

Bonny Blue? ?

 

[omnicognic]

Yeah Bonnie! Now that you mention it.....

 

[LitDoc]

Would that make the area with the ladybug "Pass Go," and the area in the opposite corner next to the moon as "Go to Jail"? Wonder where Park Place would be?