Treasure Clue, can you help?

[LitDoc]

More like "I fix your puzzling" then!

 

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[jewels1301]

CMSCHUT,

In your post from another site, how ere the times derived, like on page 19, 1:45?

Jewels

 

[CMSCHUT]

JEWELS, thanks , but it was someone else's idea . what they are saying is that the open space on the dandelion is where the hands of the clock are and that the missing seeds are seconds . hope this explains . let me know . carol

 

[jewels1301]

CMSCHUT,

Thanks for explaining the time. I should have seen that.

Jewels

 

[pikeshunter]

page 2.....any ideas i mean a fairy pointing at a strand of numbers
--6 5 14 4 13 7 8 2 3 15 9 10 1 12 11

i mean is it just me or is it weird to have a fairy pointing at a string of 15 numbers? call me crazy but its something to look into any thoughts id love to hear because i am stumped!

 

[LitDoc]

Prose Interpretation of Poem

Poetic language is more difficult to comprehend than prose is, so I have attempted to translate each couplet (two rhyming lines) of the poem to a prose sentence. Some couplets are obviously riddles, making them difficult to translate. However, let me know how I can improve upon this attempt.

1 They are hidden where no one can see them, somewhere above ground but not up high.
2. There are twelve treasures to find in various states.
3. Because no one is holding them and they are not on private property, you should not disturb anything to find them.
4. They are hidden outside, somewhere that requires no digging or prying to get to them?just reach inside to get them.
5. You can find out where they are hidden through an even code with one piece?not one.
6. The text of the book contains the key for the one prize that was missing, and you did not see it.
7. To find the name of where each treasure awaits you, you must have a code of numbers that are five to a side.
8. The fairies will show you where to go because they hold the name of the hiding places.
9. Then you can reach your goal by seizing the tokens; the secret is somewhere between one-half and whole.

 

[zuse]

WOW Carol - you're a tracing fool! ?I don't think I could do that - what a great job!

We have a lot of good ideas going. ?I wish we had started different thread for different pages/ideas instead of having everything in one big forum, but anyway, it would be too big of a project to separate everything now.

OK, my idea of the day has to do with pages 46 and 56. ?(Have you noticed that there are many examples of things being 10 pages apart - the moons, for example?)Maybe this has already been posted, but, here goes:

OK, look at the box with the fairy on page 45. ?It is another "5 to a side" box. ?I can make out several body parts. ?I've "numbered" the the boxes from 1 to 25 starting at the top left and going from left to right.

There's a face in 6, 15, and 25. ?There's a leg and foot in 21. ?There's a lady bug in 23 (in addition to the ant between 22 and 23) and a beetle (?) under the serpent's tail in 20. ?You have to turn the page upside down to see some of these. ?I think there may be others.

Now, do any of these match with page 55? ?We know that the pictures on page 55 repeat.

This is my problem - I'm developing more questions than answers!

Zuse

 

[zuse]

Pikeshunter:

This was "solved" quite a while ago - If you take the 15 letters in "A Treasuer's Trove" and put them in the numerical order starting with 6 (s) it spells "Save our tree's art". Any other sulutions would be welcome.
Zuse

 

[pikeshunter]

allright thanks zuse i never saw anything about it through any of the forums Ive been in so it was just on my mind.
--As a side note though anyone get anything on the newest clue? at first i was thinking anagrams but i don't thinks it could be that simple...any ideas?

 

[CMSCHUT]

Litdoc, thank you ! i find that much easier to follow and i think it's just the way it should be . carol

Zuse , i forgot to mention the dropcap box on pg 16. sorry didn't mean to give you one more thing . carol

 

[treasuretrapper]

I do think the seedlings have some meaning.......but what.......there is a dandylion on the back of my book w/ 4 seedletthings.howa bouta the rest of ur guysts back book covers??


P.S. notice that there is one dandy with 4 seeds on the cover but w/a dark green center unlike the rest of the book w/a light green center.....

~Sara

 

[pikeshunter]

Sara, glad to see you caught your mistake about there not being a dandelion on the cover (bottom left corner of the picture for anyone who read the post before its been changed)

 

[treasuretrapper]

Every1 and mostly carol~
Thanks 4 doing the tracings of the pages and helping us uncover even more ?questions to boggle our minds down with.....i think my next picture of study is on pg 19.... and the trees on pg 18...does any1 know about the 'thing' in 1 of the trees?

~Sara

 

[CMSCHUT]

Good morning , wanted to bring back another thought of mine . what does anyone take as the great forest ? the only thing i can think of is that the grat forest is the U.S. . i keep thinking this everytime i reread the story . would like to know what others think about this as they read the story .

 

[salkns]

Just thought I would say good morning to all! I had some ideas on pg.55 with all the Darklings in the border. Part of the story talks about how Zac's father taught him the "SECRETS" of wood working and then lists dovetail joints, mortise joints, etc. What if these pictures around the border are jointed? I tried folding the border on a copy to see if the lances or spear handles matched up and they do, butnothing else really came from that. Then I started looking a little more closelly and they are not just strips. Problem I'm having is seeing where one is different from another. What if they are joints and need to be "re-jointed" so to speak? Almost like a jig saw puzzle?

Carol and Sara, where do you live? Anyone out there close to the southwest suburbs of Chicago? It would be great to get together once a week and go over what we have found! Just a thought...
Sal

 

[salkns]

All,
? ? Let us seriously think on how to progress with this hunt. ?Those of us who have been around awhile (and even some quick newcomers) are aware of the poem (and unverified sub-poem) and the paired mates, not to mention about a thousand tiny details that we have noticed in the drawings. ?What to do next? ?I am suggesting that once you have an "idea" of a location from a certain page, that you next try and team up a creature with that location. ?This might be done by the creature speaking a lot on that page or just a general reference. ?Also, look for the much talked about "mooring cells" discussed on ATT. These are simple "linking forms" which tie one page into another. ?In other words, certain exact tree limbs or rocks or exact moon shapes mya be used repeatedly on other pages to tie them together. ?Anagram unusual sentences and see where they lead. ?Look at your "location" page as a map and see what else you can glean. ?For instance, the newest clue that I have seen involves the tree on page 65 being a Devils Stump of some kind (forget the exact name) located in Wisconsin. ?Now, if I was in Wisconsin, I would order a map of the park and tear apart that and all of the text around that page. ?I may be completely off, but I think that this is the next best logical step. ?Anyone giving it a try? I have made much progress on one creature using these methods that I am sharing. ?Hope it helps you all some.

Just going through some old posts and wanted to say thanks for this one Zuse! One more quick thought...patterns repeat as well through out the book. Maybe it is the poem pattern (holly leafs that spell out part of the poem are also on page with tree as a "W" cap box, with the dragon fly in it.

 

[kregger]

hi everyone,
? I've been working on the new clue. ?I wanted to know if it is a substitution cipher. ?Even without combining the letters by color, count each letter divide by total number of letters to get a percentage. ?There is a fairly typical range of normal letters. ?R,N,E, T being the letters that show up the most. ?With a sub. cipher a kinda gobbly-gook of letters that do not follow a pattern normal to English would show up. ?With the first clue "not April 1" confirms this.
?With the colors combined, I'm getting weird messages.
yellow: get on ship, shot in peg

white: hidden ne(a)r ?(Ms like to mis spell?)

green: talon inch, no latch in, lion chant, ( no help)

orange: Rear steer(boat, canoe?), trees rear, seer rater (I tried to get rest area )

red: ?rome train, more train, nite armor, arron time,(no help)
?
It needs more work, I am only good at the four -five word daily scramble May be some one will see something else. Kregger

 

[hoppperr]

Carol: I think you might be right about the Forest. When he's at the highest part, it could be a mountain range? Is that what you're thinking?

Kregger: I, too, think there is more to that clue, and probably more to the first clue. There are so many possibilities! I've also wondered if the dates play into this in some way. Date released, date solution is anounced?

Two new strange things I've noticed in the book: page 21, last sentence: "But no dragonflies had flown in HIS part of the forest for a long time.

The use of the word crevasse (sorry, don't have page number handy). Crevasses are in glaciers or ice caves, no? Shouldn't it be crevice?

 

[CMSCHUT]

Salkns , pg 55 reminds me of a puzzle in the companion book wher ms had a puzzle of five faces ( if i remember they looked like the ones on pg 55 ) and asked us how we could make it four faces out of the five . sorry but i loaned my companion book to the girl next door . i tried this idea but wasn't successful , but i think that puzzle is directed at this page somehow . i'm glad you reposted the post from zuse and i think that that is the way we need to look at the text , finding the key will be hard . maybe that's what the fairies are all pointing to is the key . i don't know . i still feel strongly that instead of giving us a location they are telling us how they are hid because we are all finding locations we just don't know the how on how they were hid.just a thought , but all that pointing i'm not seeing a location so i figured it would be easier for them to show us how they are concealed . we do still need to figure that part out . what do you think ? i live in st louis, mo . let me know what you think , carol

 

[CMSCHUT]

Hoppperr, yes that's it . i'm thinking a state near the top of the us because in the book , bear with me don't have it handy either , it reads somewhere that he looked down over the great forest . when i first started reading this it just made me think that the whole forest was the u.s. and each part or place in the book , such as rusfuls cavern , was a location. i hope this makes sense . also in the beginning where snail is walking through the forest trying to get to the linden stump , about the last green part of this area . then in the first chapter the fairy is pointing to the green square in the drop cap box. i think maybe this is another section or state in the forest . let me know what you all think , carol