What are they off.

[Silver Searcher]

These Bronze Rings are a common find in the UK, but I have never had a true idea of what they are off, or used for some say Horse related, I have even seen them for sale as Celtic Ring money

What are everybodys thoughts on what they are, or might be used for as you can see they come in different sizes

SS

 

[IronSpike]

Here's an interest link on the Celtic ring money, or not:

http://www.calgarycoin.com/reference/articles/celticrings/celticrings.htm

 

[shaun7]

Everyone knows they're ring things! And you have loads

 

[Woodland Detectors]

I swear I'm always learning something from you guys

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Hello SS. Wow you found a lot of these bronze things. They all look old and discolored to me and I see some patina as well. Thanks for the ID Cru. Im curious as to what percentage of ancient bronze comes out of the ground looking like the day it was lost? We just cant find this kinda stuff in the USA. Keep posting. 8)

 

[DCMatt]

Chainmaille repair kit?

Early pull-tab?

I'm sure if you think about it there are 100's of uses for these things over the centuries.

DCMatt

 

[Silver Searcher]

Hello SS. Wow you found a lot of these bronze things. They all look old and discolored to me and I see some patina as well. Thanks for the ID Cru. Im curious as to what percentage of ancient bronze comes out of the ground looking like the day it was lost? We just cant find this kinda stuff in the USA. Keep posting. 8)

Cru didn't ID them they are often accosiated with different uses, Celtic Ring Money for one they obviousley could be used on many things

SS

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Hello SS. Wow you found a lot of these bronze things. They all look old and discolored to me and I see some patina as well. Thanks for the ID Cru. Im curious as to what percentage of ancient bronze comes out of the ground looking like the day it was lost? We just cant find this kinda stuff in the USA. Keep posting. 8)

Cru didn't ID them they are often accosiated with different uses, Celtic Ring Money for one they obviousley could be used on many things

SS

Ok thanks for the clarification. Would it be correct to say that ancient bronze is generally found discolored like this?

 

[Silver Searcher]

Hello SS. Wow you found a lot of these bronze things. They all look old and discolored to me and I see some patina as well. Thanks for the ID Cru. Im curious as to what percentage of ancient bronze comes out of the ground looking like the day it was lost? We just cant find this kinda stuff in the USA. Keep posting. 8)

Cru didn't ID them they are often accosiated with different uses, Celtic Ring Money for one they obviousley could be used on many things

SS

Ok thanks for the clarification. Would it be correct to say that ancient bronze is generally found discolored like this?

No..not from all countries

SS.

 

[IronSpike]

Reckon UK dug bronze represented in picture shown. Which other Countries did you have in mind

The Celtic ring money were not made of bronze.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Good link IronSpike. It says that these are most likely horse harness rings.




A complex harness can have more than 20 rings, and someone finding a cluster of 20 bronze rings buried together with nothing else in the context, could easily conclude he had found a hoard of money items. But that conclusion would be incorrect.

Considering the role Horses and their harnesses played in the ancient and medieval world, one can only imagine how many millions of harness rings (or groups of rings) ended up buried in the ground. Consider that harnesses are sometiimes still being made this way, and have been for at least 3000 years, it is not generally possible to define the date or culture of a simple ring outside of it's burial context (or even in that context if all there is, is a cluster of rings). This is why the common practice of automatically calling them either Celtic, or ring money, is without merit.

 

[TiredIron]

Horse or Mule harness rein spreader rings...?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015R1LJQ?tag=treasurenet01-20

TiredIron
dang.....Cyprus beat me by 100 seconds...he got it.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Reckon UK dug bronze represented in picture shown. Which other Countries did you have in mind

The Celtic ring money were not made of bronze.

I never said Celtic Ring money was made of Bronze...whats the greif with you and BCY read the post I started with.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Good link IronSpike. It says that these are most likely horse harness rings.




A complex harness can have more than 20 rings, and someone finding a cluster of 20 bronze rings buried together with nothing else in the context, could easily conclude he had found a hoard of money items. But that conclusion would be incorrect.

Considering the role Horses and their harnesses played in the ancient and medieval world, one can only imagine how many millions of harness rings (or groups of rings) ended up buried in the ground. Consider that harnesses are sometiimes still being made this way, and have been for at least 3000 years, it is not generally possible to define the date or culture of a simple ring outside of it's burial context (or even in that context if all there is, is a cluster of rings). This is why the common practice of automatically calling them either Celtic, or ring money, is without merit.

You are another one who hasn't read the first post properly.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Good link IronSpike. It says that these are most likely horse harness rings.




A complex harness can have more than 20 rings, and someone finding a cluster of 20 bronze rings buried together with nothing else in the context, could easily conclude he had found a hoard of money items. But that conclusion would be incorrect.

Considering the role Horses and their harnesses played in the ancient and medieval world, one can only imagine how many millions of harness rings (or groups of rings) ended up buried in the ground. Consider that harnesses are sometiimes still being made this way, and have been for at least 3000 years, it is not generally possible to define the date or culture of a simple ring outside of it's burial context (or even in that context if all there is, is a cluster of rings). This is why the common practice of automatically calling them either Celtic, or ring money, is without merit.

You are another one who hasn't read the first post properly.

I admit that Im in a rush today but what part did I misread?

 

[Silver Searcher]

Good link IronSpike. It says that these are most likely horse harness rings.




A complex harness can have more than 20 rings, and someone finding a cluster of 20 bronze rings buried together with nothing else in the context, could easily conclude he had found a hoard of money items. But that conclusion would be incorrect.

Considering the role Horses and their harnesses played in the ancient and medieval world, one can only imagine how many millions of harness rings (or groups of rings) ended up buried in the ground. Consider that harnesses are sometiimes still being made this way, and have been for at least 3000 years, it is not generally possible to define the date or culture of a simple ring outside of it's burial context (or even in that context if all there is, is a cluster of rings). This is why the common practice of automatically calling them either Celtic, or ring money, is without merit.

You are another one who hasn't read the first post properly.

I admit that Im in a rush today but what part did I misread?

BCY...have you ever heard the term, Like Wading Through Treacle.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I dont have any grief and Im cool with you SS. But I sometimes become very frustrated trying to communicate with you. You appear to talk in circles sometimes. I dont know if its my fault. But I have no hard feelings whatsoever. I am here to learn.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

BCY...have you ever heard the term, Like Wading Through Treacle.

I will have to google it but thats as far as I am willing to go. I will not be tricked into one of your games. This is not the place.

 

[Silver Searcher]

I dont have any grief and Im cool with you SS. But I sometimes become very frustrated trying to communicate with you. You appear to talk in circles sometimes. I dont know if its my fault. But I have no hard feelings whatsoever. I am here to learn.

The point to the post was, the confusion of the rings, I don't know what they are off I thought it might make a interesting topic, but all I get is greif I see you and outhers like posting links, here's another website from your end, who try and make these out to be Celtic Ring Money.

http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/ancientcoinscanada/store/listCategoriesAndProducts.asp?idCategory=26

 

[IronSpike]

No grief this end either. Did notice the rolling eyes smiley in reply#7 making a reference to Celtic money rings.

Just thought it was an interesting way to dodge BCH's question about dug condition of bronze