Where are all the Psychics, Fortune Tellers and Dowsers?

[dowser]

You say you're registered....BUT who are you registered with and who gave you the "card", what kind of card is it?

That's the problem I have with those who say they can find things by dowsing, they always seem so vague.

ASD
American Society of Dowsers
It's a plastic card

 

[dowser]

ASD
American Society of Dowsers
It's a plastic card

To be specific, it Dowses plastic frequency, 3318 Hz.

 

[signal_line]

I know dowsing can work. I’ve found stuff. One example we were at a prospecting gathering. Some guy started his dredge and he had not tightened the fill plug on the pump so the cap went flying. About six or seven oeople looked for twenty minutes and could not find it. I set up a device and got out my dowsing rod and got a line. It went out into the water so I just stopped. I looked down and there is was right by my feet, just a few threads showing in the mud. I’ve found arrowheads just by walking and asking “Here? No.” Then finally “Here? Yes.” But I’ve seen people who have one success claim they are an expert dowser. Delusional. Same goes for dowsing rods 100% accurate. No way. Just by its nature if you are arrogant there’s no way.

And map dowsing is a whole different thing. I call it a misnomer. It’s psychic phenomena and by nature not nearly as accurate.

 

[dowser]

I will always be an Apprentice, the Master is interference.
Interference rules.

 

[Carl-NC]

The Randi challenge was bogus. The odds was astronomical then you had to repeat it then their panel of “experts” decides if you get the money or not. Like winning powerball two times in a row then they can still deny you the money for ANY reason they decide. There was absolutely no way they giving any money to anyone. The final nail in the coffin was you had to show it was “supernatural”.

None of this is true, Mike.

 

[AstralDruid]

With regards to people being put on test, to prove their ability one way or the other, I have an avenue of theory that should be considered. Is it possible that the people who have displayed abilities, at certain points, were gifted those temporarily ?. Could it be that "psychic JimBob" was, for circumstances unknown (perhaps even to him), gifted the ability to perform an action that is deemed to be 'paranormal' or magickal , only for that ability to diminish or disappear completely as the person begins to believe that it is he/she that posses the ability, rather than just being given access to it for some reason or another ?.. Could this happen to explain why so many people know a person who once or twice (maybe many times) was able to perform psychic, healing or other unusual abilities, but not able to replicate them when put under pressure or in any circumstance where they must 'prove themselves' , where in my theory, it is not them and they have no control over it .
I am speaking from experience here,, over the years i have amazed people from time to time and when I let it go to my head and started to think that it was 'all me' it left me... stone cold.. but returned at later dates when not being 'summoned' or needed for any other egotistical purposes of proof or seeking recognition. I therefore have learned (reinforced many times) that if I am again gifted with insight, knowledge or wisdom, that it is better to understand what is being given to you, to resonate with the moment and choose wisely before sharing any of it with those who seek proof.
When the ego and personality gets involved then the whole thing is densified and the wisdom disappears like a breeze, as quickly as it arrived , leaving the 'once connected' person to scrabble around and try to manifest something tangible to please those who seek proof.
The tests televised and written about, by the likes of Randi, are just entertainment, they have no value to society or humanity. Folks, who never experience anything, are very keen to make everyone who has(experienced) conform to their version of what is 'real' and scientific, this is the insecure ego... and attempting to appease such with abilities that come and go (as if on purpose) is a fool's folly.
But who is the fool ?
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[dowser]

From what I heard, Dowsers are allowed to clear the area, before their tested.
But nobody knows the flaw, but me.
Let's say a bunch of scientists and physicists decide to test a dowser. How might it go?
"This crazy person is gonna try to prove Dowsing," ha ha, go to the kitchen and make some popcorn in the Microwave, this aught to be good.
There you have it, a flawed test.. interfearance!

 

[geowizard]

None of this is true, Mike.

"I don't believe its true. Therefore it cannot be true."
- Geowizard

 

[signal_line]

Randi had Dell winders a group of twelve slots with one target hidden, then he was to repeat this 12 times, this is 12 to the 12th power or almost 9 trillion to 1. Then according to his rules he would have to repeat this so the odds would be almost 9 trillion times 9 trillion. BTW that is not 81 trillion it is a hugest number imaginable. It’s 81 trillion trillion! Even then the final decision to pay was up to their “panel of experts”. They NEVER going pay one cent because there is no way to prove something is “supernatural”. After Dell got a high score Randi said “More testing is needed” meaning he wasn’t going to pay. Dell agreed, more testing.

Carl needs to apologize to me for accusing me of getting this wrong but there’s a better chance of winning the Randi challenge than that ever happening. The only thing I got wrong was to say it’s like winning the power all two times in a row. That’s not even close to how difficult it was for Dell.

 

[AstralDruid]

You would begin to wonder if making the odds so high was done on purpose ?.... I mean you would have to channel a genius
Anyway what makes the 'non believers' believe that the psychic or channel can see inside packages or whatever ?.. has anyone, who is being tested, been running around claiming to know what was inside envelopes or whatever ?... usually dowsers, energy workers and spiritual types are more focussed on strong natural energy flows etc.. not pieces of paper inside sealed envelopes..
Another thing is , that those who channel are usually in contact with Astral entities, that plane is vibrationally very close to this one and is not all that different in many ways, and the fact that an entity is operating on that level does not grant it 'god like' abilities, quite the opposite , because it is still in that phase it is still more or less as intelligent as it was in this realm, to a certain extent.
Just my thoughts.

 

[Carl-NC]

Randi had Dell winders a group of twelve slots with one target hidden, then he was to repeat this 12 times, this is 12 to the 12th power or almost 9 trillion to 1. Then according to his rules he would have to repeat this so the odds would be almost 9 trillion times 9 trillion.

Where do you get these "rules" from? Tests are usually designed so that 100% accuracy is never required. In a 12-location, 12-trial test a score of 8/12 would have 1.23million-to-1 odds and would probably have been sufficient for Randi. Million-to-1 was typically where his tests ended up. Keep in mind that these are the odds for pure guessing, as in a lottery. But if your dowsing skills are real, then the test gets far easier, assuming you can actually dowse. That's the whole point of the test: separate a real dowsing ability from just guessing.

Sometimes Randi would let people take a simplified informal test to see if they had any ability, without having to go through the rigors of drawing up a legal contract with all the test specifications listed and all the protocols strictly followed. In those cases, this test was never for the prize. Anyone who passed this "gateway test" could then formally apply for the prize, but no one ever passed it. He used this approach a lot with people who would just drop in to his Ft Lauderdale office wanting to be tested.

In the case of Dell, I think he got 1 target right but was otherwise missing them. After several trials he complained that solar interference was affecting his ability and he bailed out. If Randi actually said "More testing is needed" then that would have been a correct statement.

 

[Red_desert]

Until now, I was not aware there was any challenge to find her. Following the recent news this was not a very professional kidnap job. Common sense will tell you they probably did not have a place set up to keep her alive for an extended period of time.

 

[Red_desert]

Until now, I was not aware there was any challenge to find her. Following the recent news this was not a very professional kidnap job. Common sense will tell you they probably did not have a place set up to keep her alive for an extended period of time.

Also, if a person can dowse for a missing person accurately... there might be severe legal challenges or make that person a suspect.

 

[dowser]

I Dowse on location.
If I was there and pointed to a house my Dowsing rods signaled, no judge would grant a search warrant, because of a Dowser.

 

[Red_desert]

I Dowse on location.
If I was there and pointed to a house my Dowsing rods signaled, no judge would grant a search warrant, because of a Dowser.

Best way is to follow with rods the person doing a search.

 

[Carl-NC]

If I was there and pointed to a house my Dowsing rods signaled, no judge would grant a search warrant, because of a Dowser.

And with good reason. Imagine if cops were allowed to carry dowsing rods and could use them to establish probable cause.

 

[dowser]

If Dowsing was believed real, their would be a law against Dowsing into people's houses.
I can Dowse which houses have quantity Gold or Silver inside. I'm Dowsing into their private safe from my house.
One house 300 yds NW has quantity Silver.

 

[robertk]

One house 300 yds NW has quantity Silver.

Just because you believe there is silver in your neighbor's house doesn't mean there is.

 

[dowser]

Just because you believe there is silver in your neighbor's house doesn't mean there is.

Your right, it could be a Silver frequency stone, under the house.
Good catch!

 

[AU Seeker]

Your right, it could be a Silver frequency stone, under the house.
Good catch!

So you're saying dowsing is fallible, unreliable at best!!